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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:53 am

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I bought cait and kat and a skin for yi and cait, I really like cait
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:17 am

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Conclusion:I will never play a ranged AD carry in a ranked solo queue again. I got a quadra as corki and was 10-3. We still lost because nobody could peel off of me long enough to flash over a wall. I had a banshees, and even a thornmail to stop the trynd. Ended 14-8, and lost. [/sadface]
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:19 am

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QSS > Thornmail on Corki I'd think, they can only kill you if they can catch you and you don't have enough HP to make thornmail too much of a deterrent.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:25 am

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Why you gotta call me a dime a dozen shanba :(
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:24 am

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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:55 am

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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:02 pm

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where is the hon thread

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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:31 pm

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HoN thread is here.
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:33 pm

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i c wat u did there


enjoy your kiddie game, kids.

i'll be busy playing a real game in prep for dota 2
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:35 pm

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lolololololol DotA 2 looks like a crap game, you realize that right? Guinsoo and Pendragon are the only guys who ever truly innovated this genre. Everyone else is just copying off of them.
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:38 pm

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*holds fingers together devilishly as I prepare to turn this thread into a massive trollfest*


But seriously. Hon is better. There has to be some hon players in the hizzouse. You cant ALL be LoLkids. Thats just too terrible to contemplate.
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:52 pm

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HoN *SHOULD* have been what DotA 2 is going to be.

But they managed to screw everything up, so now Valve has their chance. And from all the info so far, it has been done right.

LoL made its own niche for itself. It is not DotA and they didn't want it to be. I just couldn't get into it.
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:02 pm

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LoL simplified the interfaces, removed the deny mechanic, and rebalanced health/defense/offensive.

It's more of a team game now, whereas HoN is a game where you try to get one player fed to godlike proportions and watch them 1v5
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:06 pm

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Adding AP is imo what LoL did right.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:17 pm

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Timeater wrote:
*holds fingers together devilishly as I prepare to turn this thread into a massive trollfest*


But seriously. Hon is better. There has to be some hon players in the hizzouse. You cant ALL be LoLkids. Thats just too terrible to contemplate.


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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:17 pm

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There is no way I will ever play HoN ever again. I have yet to meet a worse community. At least LoL's community can be tolerated.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:58 pm

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Chronopie wrote:LoL simplified the interfaces, removed the deny mechanic, and rebalanced health/defense/offensive.

It's more of a team game now, whereas HoN is a game where you try to get one player fed to godlike proportions and watch them 1v5
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Yea, DotA/HoN/DotA 2 will always be about the 1v5. I remember back in the day it was always Bone Fletcher with the fucking teleport boots taking out the whole team while his teammates baited for him. Pretty dumb shit.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:00 pm

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Soraka is getting kicked IN THE TESTICLES.
http://www.leagueofreplays.com/redpost. ... S#12948349
Her cd on her heal is now DOUBLE what it was
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:02 pm

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Sona already is a lot better than Soraka. Even DPS Soraka.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:18 pm

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:lolololololol DotA 2 looks like a crap game, you realize that right? Guinsoo and Pendragon are the only guys who ever truly innovated this genre. Everyone else is just copying off of them.


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How long have you played Mobas? You look like someone who started with LoL, otherwise there's no way you could have made a post filled with so much wrong.

Dota 2 will do better because they have experienced and far stronger developers on the job.
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:27 pm

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the whole DotA/LoL phenomenon is an example of guys taking a game (sc,wc3,sc2) and dumbing it down sufficiently that the unwashed masses can indulge their compulsion for tedium on a nightly basis. It's an example of making obscene amounts of profit from the Lowest Common Denominator. It's what Mumford and Sons are to the music industry.
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:42 pm

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shit works. fucking kingpin twitch skin aww yeah(not in real game just dicked around with this in customs 3 times during commercials and was lulz).

edit: this seems to work like 1/3 times. pax jax as 2nd skin is p tits tho(considering almost every skin i own is 2nd huehue)
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:23 pm

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Interesting stuff about the sustain changes that they are focusing on next.

Hello Community!

In the spirit of sharing information I would like to give you all a preview of the support portion of the sustain remake that we are gradually pushing out to solve the sustain problems. The goal of the changes was to lower total healing per second, while trying to retain the saving power of the heals, or even increasing them. In the cast of some characters who suffer from lacking of things to do due to cooldowns, we've given much more power to their other abilities, and made them more frequently castable.

Once again a disclaimer: These changes are not final until they're live, and may be subject to change, please do not use this against me as I would love to continue this exchange of information.


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* Starcall
** Cooldown reduced to 2.5 from 3
** Base damage reduced to 60/85/110/135/160 from 60/90/120/150/180
** AP ratio increased to .4 from .25
** Mana cost reduced to 35/40/45/50/55 from 40/50/60/70/80
** Shred increased to 8/9/10/11/12 from 8/8/8/8/8
** Maximum stacks reduced to 10 from 20

* Astral Blessing
** AP Ratio reduced to 0.45 from 0.9
** Cooldown increased to 20 from 10
** Base Heal increased to 65/130/195/260/325 from 60/120/180/240/300
** Armor Buff increased to 25/50/75/100/125 from 20/35/50/65/80
** Armor buff duration increased to 5 from 4
** Cast range increased to 750 from 650

* Infuse
** AP ratio increased to .75 from .6
** Cooldown reduced to 10 from 15
** Silence duration compressed to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 from 1/1.5/2/2.5/3
** No longer grants double mana to soraka on selfcast.


* Wish
** Wish AP ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.3
** Base heal reduced to 200/300/400 from 200/320/440
** Mana cost reduced to 100/175/250 from 200/275/350

Sona

* Aria of Perseverance
** Base heal reduced to 25/50/75/100/125 from 35/70/105/140/175
** AP Ratio reduced to .25 from .35
** Now grants double her passive aura bonus to her heal target and herself for 3 seconds.
* Fixed a bug where Hymn of Valor and Aria of Perseverance caused her to deal 20% reduced damage

* Reduced the lockout time while casting Sona's songs to make them more responsive.

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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:02 pm

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yeah its stupid blahblahblah specially sona(who is like what I think riot would love to make all supports like, SO MUCH UTILITY, with a shitty heal) but even they nerfed that(lol)
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:08 pm

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Junpei wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:lolololololol DotA 2 looks like a crap game, you realize that right? Guinsoo and Pendragon are the only guys who ever truly innovated this genre. Everyone else is just copying off of them.


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How long have you played Mobas? You look like someone who started with LoL, otherwise there's no way you could have made a post filled with so much wrong.

Dota 2 will do better because they have experienced and far stronger developers on the job.


LMAO, I started playing DotA 8 years ago...you *do* realize that DotA was *created* by the guys who founded Riot, right?

DotA 2 will be a more well-made game in the form of less bugs, because Valve is a bigger and more developed studio. But they just don't have the experience with Mobas that Riot has, and rebooting an exact copy of DotA is old hat.

a) It's already been done
b) The first time it was rebooted, it sucked
c) The Moba genre has evolved past DotA. We don't need to go back into the Stone Age.
d) DotA was a great game, but it had a lot of issues that have since been solved in terms of gameplay, mechanics, and interface. If DotA 2 doesn't acknowledge and take advantage of these improvements, it's going to suck.

That said, DotA 2 will be a relatively successful game, and it will be good competition for LoL. But that's because there are plenty of nerdraging kids out there who can't get past the fact that LoL changed things from DotA and made it different, and so they've been playing HoN until they could go back to DotA all over again. The only way that DotA 2 will truly become a good game is if they learn from LoL and truly innovate their product. A simple reboot won't cut it.
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