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I think my gut was correct - I don't like Twistedspoon's play, but I don't like hiplop's playmore. hip's been a nonentity, and I don't like his reactions to the Johhog wagon/my announcement of L-1 of the same (#452 and vicinity - I'm lazy-ISOing). Twisted has been more active, posting more analysis, all that."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clearcut stupid moves, onlycomplicatedstupid moves that make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing." -- Gamal Nasser
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I hate this, every time I come to read this I feel unmotivated and continue putting it off. I'll get Shift to hound me and we'll go through this again sometime soon, promise.There are three ways of dealing with difference: domination, compromise, and integration. By domination only one side gets what it wants; by compromise neither side gets what it wants; by integration we find a way by which both sides may get what they wish. - Mary Parker Follett.- Duplicity
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We're both at a stand still right now. I'm leaning heavily towards TS being town, I don't think he would have bussed that strongly but Shift is insisting that there's no scum motivation for hiphop to put himself up against TS when he was planned and likely to be nominated and elected the next day.
Shift is a noob just like gorilla so I'll probably just ignore his decision.Although I understand that the one week deadline means we can't draw/drag things out I really want another day or two to discuss this with Shift, no one vote before then please.There are three ways of dealing with difference: domination, compromise, and integration. By domination only one side gets what it wants; by compromise neither side gets what it wants; by integration we find a way by which both sides may get what they wish. - Mary Parker Follett.-
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yeah, I'll admit hiplop being nominated was a bit of odd play since against anyone else I'd have made sure he was seen as the townie
but then again I guess that's what scum want you to think :/1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Duplicity wrote:We're both at a stand still right now. I'm leaning heavily towards TS being town, I don't think he would have bussed that strongly but Shift is insisting that there's no scum motivation for hiphop to put himself up against TS when he was planned and likely to be nominated and elected the next day.
Shift is a noob just like gorilla so I'll probably just ignore his decision.Although I understand that the one week deadline means we can't draw/drag things out I really want another day or two to discuss this with Shift, no one vote before then please.
I'm about 75% noob as well, but Shift's story makes sense to me as well (although I don't know how good hiplop's odds actually were - better than I guessed, clearly)."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clearcut stupid moves, onlycomplicatedstupid moves that make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing." -- Gamal Nasser
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ok, let's pretend I'm scum for a minute
so I'm scum, I nominated myself and I thought
"who's a townie who is generally thought of as being scummy that I can nominate to assure I get the nomination?"
Of course, hiplop1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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On the contrary - you thought "who's the towniest townie that I can still beat?" To which hiplop is a good answer, as the folk who like one of you generally like the other,butbetween the two of you, you're the better campaigner.
Hypothetically speaking."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clearcut stupid moves, onlycomplicatedstupid moves that make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing." -- Gamal Nasser
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Shadow Dancer wrote:I think I figured it out... But I had the headstart yesterday and this is interesting to watch... Also I don't want any one to make any lame "I don't want to vote with Shadow"-excuses... So... People, stop to try lurking this out!
interesting to watch?
are you a player or a commentator?1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Packbat wrote:On the contrary - you thought "who's the towniest townie that I can still beat?"
Yeah, this is exactly what Shift was trying to convince me of yesterday. On a related note Shift is seemingly *gone*, he's not responding to the nudges I'm sending him right now so I'll probably try contacting him again to discuss this tonight.There are three ways of dealing with difference: domination, compromise, and integration. By domination only one side gets what it wants; by compromise neither side gets what it wants; by integration we find a way by which both sides may get what they wish. - Mary Parker Follett.-
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I'm not the sort of player to go through my own Iso and say how town it is
If I'm saying I'm town, that's worth zilch as town or scum I would say the same
and as town or scum I'd say Hiplop's iso is the scummiest thing I've ever seen in the position I'm in.
I'm town and I can't help you here as everything I say will be pro-myself and anti-hiplop
I don't know what help I can give you, but if you have any questions about my Iso the least I could do is answer them
since both hiplop and I will say the other is scum the conclusion is up to you to make.1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Quick note: it's quite possible my area will be hit by Irene tomorrow - I'm putting myself onV/LA until September 1stjust in case. If it turns out to miss my area, I will report as such; if my power and Internet service are interrupted, I'll be back as soon as I can."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clearcut stupid moves, onlycomplicatedstupid moves that make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing." -- Gamal Nasser
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Shadow Dancer wrote:So you go from "hip's town" to "hip's iso is the scummiest thing I've ever seen" from one moment to the other. If it is so obiously scummy you can certainly point out the striking scummy behaviour patterns that he, according to you, displays.
until today I didn't consider hiplop to be scum
but now he's confirmed scum to me
with that in mind I will be reading his iso with hiplopscum in mind were i to read it now, rather than hiploptown as I previously did to fit my idea of the setup1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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@Packbat -That's going to be a problem, you won't be back before deadline if you get internet difficulties then.
Shift just signed online, we'll be going through this properly now.There are three ways of dealing with difference: domination, compromise, and integration. By domination only one side gets what it wants; by compromise neither side gets what it wants; by integration we find a way by which both sides may get what they wish. - Mary Parker Follett.- Shadow Dancer
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Packbat wrote:Quick note: it's quite possible my area will be hit by Irene tomorrow - I'm putting myself onV/LA until September 1stjust in case. If it turns out to miss my area, I will report as such; if my power and Internet service are interrupted, I'll be back as soon as I can.
I hope it misses y'all if not stay safe.- Packbat
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Shadow Dancer wrote:@Pack: If at all possible at least place your vote.
Okay - if I have to place a vote now:
VOTE: hiplop
I'll move that if I have to."The genius of you Americans is that you never make clearcut stupid moves, onlycomplicatedstupid moves that make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something we are missing." -- Gamal Nasser
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Shift and I are finally making some lee-way into this game. I'll let him post our thoughts when he wakes up (He's been complaining about not getting to do anything in the thread and having to follow my readslike the bitch he is). On a side I'll be away for most of the next two days (Friends 21st/Family Events) but I'll try and make sure I devote whatever time I have left to discussing this with Shift before the deadline.There are three ways of dealing with difference: domination, compromise, and integration. By domination only one side gets what it wants; by compromise neither side gets what it wants; by integration we find a way by which both sides may get what they wish. - Mary Parker Follett. - Duplicity
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