Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[SpyreX]

Thats not a cool kid thing its a me thing and it is what it is.

In what world is there "wifom" between a hider hiding behind a bulletproof and a vengeful townie?
In what world is that the shot with multibody vigs in any scenario aside from two being scum?
In what world is that the shot with a joat runnin around doin joaty things?

Yea I'm totally hiding in my cubbyhole.

Again, like I did when glowball imploded, I am guaranteeing you that I will not be lynched and it will be met with the greatest of backfire.

[Oversoul]

Thats not a cool kid thing its a me thing and it is what it is.

In what world is there "wifom" between a hider hiding behind a bulletproof and a vengeful townie?
In what world is that the shot with multibody vigs in any scenario aside from two being scum?
In what world is that the shot with a joat runnin around doin joaty things?

Yea I'm totally hiding in my cubbyhole.

Again, like I did when glowball imploded, I am guaranteeing you that I will not be lynched and it will be met with the greatest of backfire.

You yourself said there could be problems with the Hider announcing who he hides behind as well as him hiding behind Bob. And you are purposely not speaking about Juls and her condition of death, which is scummy as any smart player would realize what will happen tonight depending on how things go today.

I don't understand your second point? I trust FA's claim as JOAT and it makes sense given the Woody claim.

Whether or not that ending is deliberate is a WIFOM in itself and basically confirms that if town wants to deal with Spyrex later do it with a lynch. I don't want any shenanigans on his part.

[SpyreX]

I said the hider shouldn't LOCK DOWN because of a 2-death.

I'd be ecstatic if the scum went "OHH SNAP A VENGEFUL TOWNIE LETS ASSEMBLE" but that isn't happening. Not with a claimed VIG that is going to take at best-side for scum A kill on one to get it to 50/50 (and thats if there IS a scum there because if not hooo nelly).

Going "hay lets lynch Jul's choice because she'll be dead" is bad and wrong and bad and wrong.

Its also bad and wrong.

I also would love to know what 'wifom' there is in me saying I'll never be lynched this game.

[Oversoul]

Ok you did this to yourself I can't be cryptic without being obscure.

Spyrex, I think you just softclaimed PGO as your "town going after me would backfire".

Whether or not this was a scare tactic, I don't know, or if it is a legitimate claim, but I don't want anyone going near Spyrex unless it is Juls and her Venge kill.

If we lynched Juls for her vig and she shot someone from the list, it would basically be the same as lynching someone from the list and then letting Juls die in the night.

[SpyreX]

Yes I am a lynch PGO and that is why I said I wouldn't be lynched.

I'm busted.

Juls vengeful if its true and juls is town is, best case scenario, a 1-1. The NEIGHBORHOOD OF VIGS is a threat that, even if there is a scum member, will be where kills are going.

OMG SPYREX KNOWS WHAT SCUM ARE GOINNNAAA DOOO

[Oversoul]

I don't find the neighborhood of vigs as a threat. Scum will inevitably have to kill one of the vigs and then it would be over for that scum in the neighborhood.

We can also direct their shot if you are that suspicious of them. And I never said you were lynch PGO .

[SpyreX]

Juls = threat.
Neighborhood of vigs != threat.

Cool.

[Rainbowdash]

Why do I buy that claim?

I dunno. Maybe in part because I don't think scum claims vanilla faced with that situation. Maybe in part because the wagon composition makes me uncomfortable as I really think TJ is scum to the point where without bob I would be happy to lynch him. Something inside me thinks that pony is town though, and my mid-late game read in Beefy was not completely unfounded. This feels different then contact with oversoul-scum I have had before.

Unvote
Vote Ray

Indecisive pony is indecisive.

[Oversoul]

Juls = threat.
Neighborhood of vigs != threat.

Cool.

I DON'T FIND JULS SCUMMY OR A THREAT

ALL OF MY ASSUMED THREATS ARE ON MY READS LISTED AS S FOR SCUM

[Oversoul]

Why do I buy that claim?

I dunno. Maybe in part because I don't think scum claims vanilla faced with that situation. Maybe in part because the wagon composition makes me uncomfortable as I really think TJ is scum to the point where without bob I would be happy to lynch him. Something inside me thinks that pony is town though, and my mid-late game read in Beefy was not completely unfounded.

This feels different then contact with oversoul-scum I have had before.

Unvote
Vote Ray

Indecisive pony is indecisive.

LOL. Maybe because I didn't lurk for literally the entire game?

[Rainbowdash]

Well thats ongoing but if it ceases to be I will explain more since I don't want to get in trouble with mod, more than just that though.

You should move with me to Ray.

[Oversoul]

Ok.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ray

Ray is most likely to flip scum anyway.

[SpyreX]

I DON'T FIND JULS SCUMMY OR A THREAT

ALL OF MY ASSUMED THREATS ARE ON MY READS LISTED AS S FOR SCUM

OHH SNAP ITS CAPS LOCK TYME

THREAT IS NOT A FUNCTION OF YOU.

THREAT IS A FUNCTION OF WHAT THE SCUM HAVE TO FEAR.

OHHH WAIT THAT IS A FUNCTION OF YOU ISNT IT

GOD RAINBOW WHY DO YOU HURT ME

[Oversoul]

Instead of using like 5 word sentences, can you explain to me your Juls = threat, Vig neighbors =! threat post since I clearly misinterpreted it.

You started the caps. >_>

[Oversoul]

Spyrex, you were pretty set on a DJ death day one and flip flopped with Umbrage/DJ. What happened?

[Rainbowdash]

GOD RAINBOW WHY DO YOU HURT ME

The claim feels town. Really town. It set off that little buzzer in my head that tends to precede a mislynch.

And the ponies on the wagon already had me paranoid to start.

Also the VT claim in a situation where its just going to get him lynched probably.

Also throwing out attacks at ponies who have little to no backing for a lynch, only way I think I could of gotten cold hooves faster was if he started on Ray and not DN. That and him calling BOTH DN and Ray scum, when there is no way both of those ponies are scum.

Thinking part of my reason I had Ray as town early was that I was reading an unvote of Umbrage as a vote of him instead. I have reading issues a whole lot as parts of sentances and words don't always show up to me.

[Oversoul]

Why aren't DeathNote and Ray scum?

I was scum buddies with Hiraki and he was playing essentially the same way as he was playing scum that game. Hiraki's play as scum is very similar to his play as town because he has an inherently scummy playstyle to begin with. He said in the qt that the best way to play scum is play elusive scum like town which is what I think he was doing day 1.

Ray Montano definitely did not want to buss Umbrage and his actions clearly show that.

Spyrex was trying to diffuse a lynch onto DJ in a counter buss attempt to lure people away from the Godfather, but it failed and now he suddenly only wants Juls's blood.

[SpyreX]

When I'm back I'll go into detail we'll go into this more but look closely at what you said, what happened and his claim.

Then consider what has happened thus far with this game and the claims and the push to lynch or not.

But, like I said, its gonna be teaparty and then a DN lynch. Maybe Ray now since I can at least get behind Ray.

But, still, angry. D3 in a large VT claim and then we'll get the cruise control for cool again. I mean, god in heaven meta is retarded, but look at his play THIS GAME before getting called out. He had the stones to between the lines say "Yep, this is my scum meta" and NOOOOSSSIIRRRRIEEEE better back away.

Faahhh

P-Edit:

SEE THIS. THIS GOD RAINBOWS. YOU WERE THERE DAY ONE. GODDD

[Rainbowdash]

Look, remove meta and I still am not loving this lynch right now. I mean, yes we can do far worse, but we can do better.

Just look at who is on the wagon: Peregrine, TJ, jmurph, kunk. That is like the dead center of my "probably should be dead by end of game" list. I mean, that on its own made me a little twitchy over this wagon, but then a VT claim? Also no other wagon? More signs of a mislynch.

Dunno. It feels like town to me since its basically saying "ok lynch me", as im not sure he would expect somepony, especially somepony who can swing wagons in this game to come to his rescue over it.

Plus his scumlist is so close to what mine looks like. I think we have only a couple ponies who we really disagree on. Thinking like me is something that I am willing to call a slight towntell as well.

[Rainbowdash]

But whatever. Ray is on the shortlist either way at this point for what pony is getting clawed.

[Juls]

Basically what I read from this is that Rainbowdash is unwilling to compromise on a lynch but expects everyone else to do so.

[Juls]

That was probably uncalled for so I will go ahead and apologize. I am in a bad mood tonight and should probably not be on mafiascum right now because of it.

[Rainbowdash]

Basically what I read from this is that Rainbowdash is unwilling to compromise on a lynch but expects everyone else to do so.

Yeah this is more or less correct.

I have too many weak town reads and its screwing with me pretty bad right now. Need to just drop a few of them but have a hard time letting go of them.

Just have a few issues with the oversoul wagon. I mean, I can see him getting bussed but the sudden "Here are all my reads" thing makes me a little paranoid since this is not the way I have seen scum oversoul claim.

[jmurph3]

Just look at who is on the wagon: Peregrine, TJ, jmurph, kunk.

I'm no longer on the Oversoul wagon, Rainbow.

Also, @Spyrex: flavor for your claim? Also, I'm not too familiar with PGOs, but are you saying that you only shoot if you're lynched? Who then do you shoot (as there will clearly be more than one person on your wagon)?

[diddin]

First off, SpyreX is town you stupid cunts.

Second off, a fucking crumbed VT claim should NEVER EVER EVER be enough to stop a lynch.