Execution Mafia: Days of the Cold War GAMEOVER


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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:07 am

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short V/LA. Spent all of the morning being sick, so today is going to be spent in bed. Also, will be V/LA Friday-Monday. It's my 30th, and won't be near a computer
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:01 am

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Let's review the claims:
vezok - MoI
MoI - implosion
jasonT1981 - implosion
Quilford - implosion
Scumhunter - Medicated Lain
SleepyKrew - implosion
Cosca - implosion
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Medicated Lain - dead

ML had two people down as "super town", Zang and implosion. Since Zang died, he likely voted for implosion.

Now, we have to assume a player can't be voted without at least one town vote. This is very likely to us, since ML was actually a town doublevoter.

That means there are three people who could've gotten night executioner: implosion, MoI, ML.

It wasn't ML, since he died.
Implosion claimed he didn't get it, and we don't see a reason to doubt his claim.
This leaves only one player who got the night execution, with the help of scum votes: MoI.

Vote: Cosca


Die, scum-MoI.

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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:38 am

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Quilford wrote:wooooo I'm flipflopping so hard here

things that I am certain of:
Vezok is scum
implosion is town
SKrew is town


Woooo, people who thinks you're town is town to you.
Holy crap Quilford, can this get anymore scummier?
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:39 am

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People who think SH is scum are scum soooooo
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:47 am

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Tragedy wrote:
Quilford wrote:wooooo I'm flipflopping so hard here

things that I am certain of:
Vezok is scum
implosion is town
SKrew is town


Woooo, people who thinks you're town is town to you.
Holy crap Quilford, can this get anymore scummier?

lol

If you like I can go into detail; it's just a coincidence.

vote Cosca
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:50 am

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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:51 am

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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:16 pm

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Tragedy wrote:Do I need to say that just because Zang thinks you're town doesn't mean you're confirmed town? If he indeed checked you, and found out that you were town, then there's your confirmation.

Otherwise, no.


1. Are you reading the game for content at all? It was abundandly clear what the point of this was.
2. Zang couldn’t possibly have checked Implosion or myself. He had one scan from N1 which he claimed – Quilford is scum. Why even bother to type that when you should know it can’t be true?

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Cosca wrote: ML had two people down as "super town", Zang and implosion. Since Zang died, he likely voted for implosion.

Now, we have to assume a player can't be voted without at least one town vote. This is very likely to us, since ML was actually a town doublevoter.

That means there are three people who could've gotten night executioner: implosion, MoI, ML.

It wasn't ML, since he died.
Implosion claimed he didn't get it, and we don't see a reason to doubt his claim.
This leaves only one player who got the night execution, with the help of scum votes: MoI.

Vote: Cosca

Die, scum-MoI.


Oh look … Cosca is getting in on the Scumhunter action of pre-supposing his way to a conclusion. Implsion’s post at 1259 is a good read Cosca. You should actually reading posts as opposed to skimming content that isn’t directed to you. Actually … don’t. I prefer you continue to play like obv-scum.

And on that issue look what we have … Cosca is proposing to execute outside Obv-scum Scumhunter (who he wanted executed yesterday … what happened there?) and the confirmed Cop’s guilty Night result. Wonder why that possibly is? Perhaps that if his partners avoid execution he can win today?

Quilford – Cosca – Scumhunter as members of the scum-team (with a possible 4th member). Calling it now.

Oh and look who suddenly is supporting Cosca over Implosion for executioner –

QuilfordScum wrote:If you like I can go into detail; it's just a coincidence.

vote Cosca


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Scumhunter wrote:i dont give a fuck about fatlikepig's meta. Hey MoI you fag you going to read ML's post about how Im town. Oh no of course not, because you are still SCUM.


So Medicated Lain the dead Town thought you were stupid Town instead of scum and that clears you because he’s Town?

But didn’t Zang, also Confirmed Town, think you were Obv-scum enough that he was willing to execute you during the Day instead of his guilty result? Doesn’t that mean you are scum since he is confirmed Town.

Continue to flail in AtE. You need to die. You needed to die yesterday.

Why don’t you just confirm who your Partners are? We’ll make your execution mostly painless … I promise!

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Implosion wrote:Considering yesterday, I propose that the executioner executes quickly after being elected. It's possible that it was just a random daykill that the scum had, but it's more likely that scum have an ability to kill an executioner that takes too long or something along those lines, considering 1) that they daykill wasn't immediate, and if scum had a daykill they could have just used on Zang at some point, and 2) flavor.


I agree with this and further suggest that contingency plans for Night voting be arranged before the Executioner is hammered so that we don’t get chaos in the case of some other sort of shenanigans like we did yesterday after Zang was taken out.

Implosion wrote:Other thing of note: Zang's most recent content post implied that he was probably going to execute SH over Quilford. Guess whose life was spared by a kill that was almost definitely directed by the scum?

(HINT: SCUMHUNTER'S WAS.)


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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:19 pm

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MoI, vote implosion For Great Justice so we can kill SH.

Also, I don't have papers anymore.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:33 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:MoI, vote implosion For Great Justice so we can kill SH.


I will probably be doing so but before he's hammered I would like us to have a Night voting plan in place. No reason to give scum a free ride when getting rid of one of their members greatly nerfs their ability to gank the Night Execution.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:55 pm

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I'm thinking implosion for Night.
No reaction to my papers disappearing?
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:10 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:
No reaction to my papers disappearing?


Well you need to provide some details other than "I no longer have them". Did you pass them to someone? If so unless that person is one of the scum group (Quil - Scumhunter - Cosca) I really don't care.

Now if they were stolen that may be a different matter. Should I be paying more attention?

My gut says the Papers are very likely a Mod red-herring of some sort. So unless someone knows something (which I clearly don't at this point) I'm going to concentrate on hanging scum and find out post-game WTF was going on with said papers.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:15 pm

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I did not pass them. They're simply not there anymore.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:46 pm

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MoI - jason - vezok (don't think there's a fourth)

lol at MoI making himself obvious
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:07 pm

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Quilford wrote:MoI - jason - vezok (don't think there's a fourth)

lol at MoI making himself obvious

LOL at you not dying.

vote vezok

Vote me to see scum quilford dead.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:09 pm

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Vezok full reads list with reasoning, I believe I've asked you this before
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:15 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Cosca wrote: ML had two people down as "super town", Zang and implosion. Since Zang died, he likely voted for implosion.

Now, we have to assume a player can't be voted without at least one town vote. This is very likely to us, since ML was actually a town doublevoter.

That means there are three people who could've gotten night executioner: implosion, MoI, ML.

It wasn't ML, since he died.
Implosion claimed he didn't get it, and we don't see a reason to doubt his claim.
This leaves only one player who got the night execution, with the help of scum votes: MoI.

Vote: Cosca

Die, scum-MoI.


Oh look … Cosca is getting in on the Scumhunter action of pre-supposing his way to a conclusion. Implsion’s post at 1259 is a good read Cosca. You should actually reading posts as opposed to skimming content that isn’t directed to you. Actually … don’t. I prefer you continue to play like obv-scum.

And on that issue look what we have … Cosca is proposing to execute outside Obv-scum Scumhunter (who he wanted executed yesterday … what happened there?) and the confirmed Cop’s guilty Night result. Wonder why that possibly is? Perhaps that if his partners avoid execution he can win today?

Quilford – Cosca – Scumhunter as members of the scum-team (with a possible 4th member). Calling it now.



Alright, explain slowly how the logic in the post of ours that you quoted is incorrect.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:41 am

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Scum-
quilford- cop guilty.
Scumhunter- Stupid scum gambit trying to get MoI lynched.
Cosca- Bad arguments against pretty much everyone.

Town
MoI- He's the towniest guy here.
SK- He fought quilford in the beginning who is now confirmed scum. I don't see that as a bus.
jason- Pretty much town jason I know


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Tragedy- You were scum, but you aren't that scummy anymore.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:41 am

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Sleepy wrote:I did not pass them. They're simply not there anymore.


Was there any flavor or other reasoning given for their disappearance? Just saying they aren’t there anymore isn’t as helpful as it could be.

Now if you got a message after Night saying something along the lines of “Some busted into your house and stole your papes” that would indicate some sort of Scum role.

If on the other hand it was something like “The papers were old and didn’t last” then that would indicate Mod mechanic.

Again … I’d rather concentrate on hanging scum.

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Quilford wrote:lol at MoI making himself obvious


Wow, Scumhunter must be rubbing off on you in the Scum QT. Because this is a page right out of his book – ‘Suddenly call someone who thinks you are scum scum themselves’.

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Cosca wrote:Alright, explain slowly how the logic in the post of ours that you quoted is incorrect.


Yep, dodge all those pointed facts and questions about why you are by-passing the two scum who need Executed to push on me. Good work!

To address your question I will first quote the post made by implosion that you clearly didn’t read in the first place –

Assume 3 scum. 3 scum = 6 votes. In fact you said you thought there were 4 scum, meaning scum would have 8 votes, meaning they would have enough to overpower the wagon on me no matter what. But lets assume 3 and see what happens.

Implosion wrote:Vezokpiraka: MoI
MagnaofIllusion: implosion
jasonT1981: implosion
Quilford: implosion
Scumhunter: Medicated Lain
SleepyKrew: implosion
Cosca: implosion
implosion: Medicated Lain
Tragedy: implosion
Now, let's ASSUME (even though he probably didn't) that ML voted for me. The votes line up like this:
implosion - moi, jason, quil, SK, cosca, tragedy, ML*2.
other people - scumhunter, implosion, vezok.
Now, scum have 6 votes put together. So, either: 1) there are at least 2 scum claiming to have voted me; 2) medicated lain didn't vote me; 3) scum have some kind of extra vote; 4) there's more than 3 scum.

There's a lot of possibilities that you're ignoring.


So once again to make it simple for you the following are assumptions in your little analysis.

1. That there are three scum and not four.
2. That implosion isn’t lying about getting the Nightkill.
3. That Medicated Lain actually did vote for Implosion.
4. That there are other unknown Scum PRs that can interfere with Night votes (like Vote Stealers or Vote Blockers or whatever else Mallow’s imagination can come up with).

Town has a very strong set of powers so far (Cop, Town Leader, Ballot Trustee) and several other players have intimated they also have roles. Scum are to be expected to have some sort of offsetting powers or advantages in a balanced game (which I am assuming this is).

So if any of those 4 items are wrong (1 and 4 seem more likely than 2 and 3 but I can’t be absolutely certain in my position) your little analysis falls apart.

Again – you simply slapped together some weak and fairly flimsy ‘logic’ to try and push on me as opposed to the scum we know are there.

It’s ok – both your scum buddies are in tight spots so you have to pull out all the stops. It’s not bad scum play to do whatever you can to try and prevent your scum-buddies from dying and losing the advantage the Mis-Executions have granted you.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:32 am

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unvote, vote vezok


Ill be dropping every 2 days to avoid being replaced. I'm not putting any more effort into this game because town is not putting in any effort to think about motivation behind my actions. Terrible play, very pathetic. My vote is for vezok for saying he will execute Quilford. Bye.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:39 am

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Scumhunter wrote:
unvote, vote vezok


Ill be dropping every 2 days to avoid being replaced. I'm not putting any more effort into this game because town is not putting in any effort to think about motivation behind my actions. Terrible play, very pathetic. My vote is for vezok for saying he will execute Quilford. Bye.


Yup ... lurk out the pressue Scumhunter.

Town has put in the time to search your motivation for your play. Outing and then getting the Cop executed before any more investigations could clear Town / condemn your Partners is a very logical and likely motivation for your play.

VOTE: Implosion. I think I've seen enough to make the call for today.

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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:41 am

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MOI wrote:2. That implosion isn’t lying about getting the Nightkill.


If implosion isn't lying about getting the Nightkill, then why the hell would he kill ML, out of all people, instead of SH or Quilford?
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:42 am

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When I flip town, assuming the game doesn't end...Night execution votes will go to Tragedy so that she can kill Quilford. Pretty sure its gg though.

unvote, vote implosion


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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:47 am

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Tragedy wrote:
If implosion isn't lying about getting the Nightkill, then why the hell would he kill ML, out of all people, instead of SH or Quilford?


It would mean that implosion is scum, obviously. I don't think it is a very likely scenario (as I have a pretty solid Town read hence my Execution support) but it is one possibility that is out there.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:03 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Tragedy wrote:
If implosion isn't lying about getting the Nightkill, then why the hell would he kill ML, out of all people, instead of SH or Quilford?


It would mean that implosion is scum, obviously. I don't think it is a very likely scenario (as I have a pretty solid Town read hence my Execution support) but it is one possibility that is out there.

If so, then I would refuse to vote implosion now.

@Implosion: Why would you kill ML out of all people instead of SH/Quilford?
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