New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[Empking]

OK. Everyone vote Johnog



NOW!

[Vifam]

I've already done it.

[Vifam]

GOD I'M QUICK.

[Johhog]

OK. Everyone vote Johnog



NOW!

That's a fail wagon and you know it.

Also I request protection the following night and/or special mechanics that make me unlynchable.

[Vifam]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT.


YOU WANT PR'S ON YOU?


What the hell kind of softclaim is this?

[David Xanatos]

Because I forgot to resubscribe to this topic, so more or less completely forgot about it. As it stands, I'm still half-rereading.. I've been keeping up on a skim basis but not much else.

[Johhog]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT.


YOU WANT PR'S ON YOU?


What the hell kind of softclaim is this?

It's a terrible softclaim and I should be ashamed?

[redFF]

OK. Everyone vote Johnog



NOW!

I TRAVELLED BACK IN TIME TO DO IT

[Johhog]

Perhaps you should now travel forward in time and unvote?

[redFF]

wait what.

[Johhog]

Thank you in advance.

[projectmatt]

>post only to defend yourself

If you want me to believe you are town in any, way, shape or form then you aren't doing a very good job.

25A: Do you play more for fun, or more for the thrill of victory?

Fun. I like winning, but when I lose it's interesting to see how I messed it up and to use it in later games to win easier.

25B: Your stance aside, do you think others should play with a similar outlook? Explain why or why not.

No. It can be played competitively or for fun. I'm a mix of both. Nobody "has" to share my view.

[redFF]

Thank you in advance.

I think you may have messed up your timeline.

[Xeras]

OK. Everyone vote Johnog



NOW!

That's a fail wagon and you know it.

Also I request protection the following night and/or special mechanics that make me unlynchable.

Derp. This strongly seems like antitown play to me. What makes you more important than the other townies? Or perhaps you are scum trying to waste any protection so that way you can kill safely.

Vote: Johhog

~^

[Johhog]

If you don't recognise that as a softclaim I'm giving up.

Anyone wanting me to straight out claim? I have no idea how to play my role but I suppose I shouldn't wait too long to claim.

[Xeras]

25A: Do you play more for fun, or more for the thrill of victory?


25B: Your stance aside, do you think others should play with a similar outlook? Explain why or why not.

I play for victory, but winning is fun, so I guess I do both.

And for B, I think everyone should play to win. The more others are into winning the game, the funner it is. But, sometimes I have a hard time getting motivated.

Johhog

- I know what a soft claim is. And I also know the benefits that the mafia would gain from presenting a fake softclaim. You are not even at 50% of the required votes to be lynched. Why are you stressing out already?

[Johhog]

Because I don't see any viable lynch target and we need to find one, deadline is coming up in like a week.

Also, as I said, I don't know how to play my role but I think it would have several benefits to claim.

[Ironhead]

Because I don't see any viable lynch target and we need to find one, deadline is coming up in like a week.

Also, as I said, I don't know how to play my role but I think it would have several benefits to claim.

A D-1 claim is problematic for us and for the claimer. It is too early for you to have established a strong history of breadcrumbs and so we are faced with a pretty binary option of whether to believe you or not. In general, the odds are more likely that you are lying (it is a variation of the Monty Hall problem -- the only town role that would claim a PR is that specific PR; but every scum role could claim it as well).

I am disinclined to vote you today, but if you claim I will be obligated to do so: because if you are telling the truth (approx 17-20% chance*), your lifespan is shortened anyway, so we wouldn't get much use out of you; and if you are lying (approx 80-83% chance*), we must lynch you so that the real PR doesn't have to expose him or herself in a counterclaim.

*Odds assume either 4 or 5 scum in the game; and that all are equally likely to fake-claim PR.

[Johhog]

Fail.

So wait, you assume that I will lie about my role? What if I can prove my role (without saying too much, several PRs can do this)?

[Johhog]

Yeah, I can certainly wait with claiming until tomorrow (and I would very much prefer that) but I supposed this was the way you wanted it. And yeah, if there is a doc/bodyguard/jailkeeper he should definitely be on me.

[Ironhead]

If you can prove your role, then I drop my objection; but remember that a mafia role-blocker can prevent you from performing nocturnal actions, so if this was how you intended to prove it to us I wouldn't count on it.

In general, an early claim like this -- with little provocation but clearly timed to interdict bandwagon momentum -- is bad for the town. You were and still are one of my scum reads. We still have time for further scum-hunting, but I think you ought to start demonstrating that you are town or resign yourself to being lynched. For starters: who do you think should be lynched today, and why?

[Secret Project]

What were my reads? -_-

[ObliviousDruidMuncher]

Replacing:

fatlikepig for LTP Mafia
Otolia for donkwich

By my count, we only need to replace the following:
lewarcher82
LordChronos
Estyn

Prods:

projectmatt
David Xanatos
Vifam
Empking
Hoppster
mastin2
bvoigt
Oversoul

^ sickening

[Empking]

OK. Everyone vote Johnog



NOW!

[David Xanatos]

VOTE: Johnog