SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

[Sunset]

Sunset, I had to start somewhere. There really was not a lot of thought process.

are you telling me that your nught action was utterly random or not?

is it because we're a hydra and that's 2 players to talk to?

and why not get a communication channel with a top town read of yours? Surely that is the best play as they are most likely to be town (you listed us as null so I'm not seeing why you chose us)

furthermore BL requesting neighbourizing is very suspect to me. perhaps a scum role wanting to appear as a baby as they think that might make them look a town role or something. BL should have more to say anyways at this point rather than begging for a neighbourizing

[Isa]

I want BL to claim what baby she is. No need for the whole role, just the name of her character. If she's scum, I believe she'll have a really hard time fakeclaiming a baby name, because there only exists ever-so-many of them. If she's town...well then there's no problem, I think. We already know she's a baby by now. I doubt the Mafia has some kind of specific "Anti-Mario" ability or something like that. If scum possess an anti-baby ability in general, well she has already claimed baby, so they gain nothing from that.

[Bowser]

The "Less than a week left!" votecount of Day 2

Ranmaru [L-11]
hiplop [L-11]
chkflip [L-11]
Kcdapot [L-11]
Vifam [L-11]
David Xanatos [L-11]

TheJakalope [L-6] Hoppster, projectmatt, Xeras, stormer, WLC

manho [L-11]
Parabollocks [L-11]
projectmatt [L-11]

WeyounsLastClone [L-6] TheJakalope, DemonHybrid, chkflip, hiplop, diddin

Sunset [L-11]
Xeras [L-11]

Bunnylover [L-8] Vifam, Sunset, David Xanatos

diddin [L-9] Isa, manho

Isa [L-11]

stormer [L-10] Parabollocks

DemonHybrid [L-11]
Celebloki [L-11]
Hoppster [L-11]

V/LAs

-DemonHybrid until

9/13

Deadlines and Lynching Requirements

-With 20 still kicking, it takes 11 to lynch, and 6 to lynch at deadline.
-Deadline is

(expired on 2011-09-18 18:44:00)

or

September 18th, 2011 @ 12:00pm CDT

Miscellaneous

-Let me know if this is incorrect.

[Bowser]

Xeras, Hoppster, and Kcdaspot have been prodded.

stormer and parabollocks are being replaced.

[WeyounsLastClone]

I want BL to claim what baby she is. No need for the whole role, just the name of her character. If she's scum, I believe she'll have a really hard time fakeclaiming a baby name, because there only exists ever-so-many of them. If she's town...well then there's no problem, I think. We already know she's a baby by now. I doubt the Mafia has some kind of specific "Anti-Mario" ability or something like that. If scum possess an anti-baby ability in general, well she has already claimed baby, so they gain nothing from that.

I think she already softclaimed by mentioning an umbrella.
And if there are baby's, I'm not sure if there are good baby's and bad baby's. I could see all baby's as invaders.
But if that's the case, the stork's dropping the baby's would be curious as town as well. At this point I still don't trust Jakalope really.

[Isa]

Good catch. Baby Peach then, I'm going to assume.

[projectmatt]

Unvote

Vote: Diddin

Diddin is scum. Jake isn't free of not being scum yet because Diddin's interactions with Jake looked like terrible scum buddying. WeyounsLastClone reads as relatively scummy just by tone, but he hasn't given any real scumtells. Can someone elaborate on this case for me?

[Xeras]

Meh.

I am not sure if I want to keep pressing a Jakalope wagon... but his claim may be a good bluff. ^^

Let's say he is a Mafia Role Cop (Or something similar), and investigated someone. Then he received a result that hinted at a baby type role...

[DemonHybrid]

Meh.

I am not sure if I want to keep pressing a Jakalope wagon... but his claim may be a good bluff. ^^

Let's say he is a Mafia Role Cop (Or something similar), and investigated someone. Then he received a result that hinted at a baby type role...

Ewww.

No. We're not considering lynching a cop variation claim on Day 2.

[Xeras]

So why are you voting for WLC?

[DemonHybrid]

Because he's been taking potshots at a random player on the playerlist and voting Jaka when it was most opportune. Twice.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Because he's been taking potshots at

a random player on the playerlist

me

and voting Jaka when it was most opportune. Twice.

Fixed that for you.

[Xeras]

WLC, Jakalope claimed 'Stork'. He can investigate 'baby' characters. If they turn up to be a baby character, they get a quicktopic.

Do you buy this claim?

[TheJakalope]

Sunset, I had to start somewhere. There really was not a lot of thought process.

are you telling me that your nught action was utterly random or not?

is it because we're a hydra and that's 2 players to talk to?

and why not get a communication channel with a top town read of yours? Surely that is the best play as they are most likely to be town (you listed us as null so I'm not seeing why you chose us)

furthermore BL requesting neighbourizing is very suspect to me. perhaps a scum role wanting to appear as a baby as they think that might make them look a town role or something. BL should have more to say anyways at this point rather than begging for a neighbourizing

Well obviously I wasn't going to pick someone I thought was scum.

The Hydra's a good point as well, but I can't say I factored that into my decision.

[Hoppster]

Claim

:

¹Stork

.

Each night I investigate one person and am told whether or not they are a baby.

²If they are a baby, then they a Masonry QT is created

, however, apparently

³there are Anti-Town baby roles.

Night 1 I investigated Sunset and was told that they aren't a baby.

wut

Any Mario geeks in this game? Have a look at the player role-names from SMBM I and tell me whether there are any non-Mario characters or any generic animals (see 1). I suspect not - a quick Google tells me 'Pa Mole' is a character and the rest probably are as well. This looks like a terrible fake-claim.

It's contradicted by the fact that a Masonry is formed between this 'Stork' and a baby (see 2) - yet he says there are anti-town baby roles (see 3). Scum masonry? Lolno.

Having said that, I'm willing to let TheJakalope live for the time being as this claim means his lies will probably unravel at some point, or failing that be proved true eventually if I'm wrong.

UNVOTE:

yeah,

⁴that's one of those too crazy to be scum claims

perhaps a 'baby' role could confirm it's legitimacy if we don't already believe him

⁵This is why BL was the better lynch

we can confirm that we are not a baby (although we didn't know that that classification existed until now)

wut

4 is coming from the player who CC'd Doc (as scum) in a Mini Normal, under no pressure. You know that scum make crazy claims - why are you making that defence?

5 -

really?

are you telling me that your nught action was utterly random or not?

is it because we're a hydra and that's 2 players to talk to?

Why are you giving TheJakalope an excuse to defend himself with?

People. I want to know how this affects your reads on diddin and Sunset, due to their inclusion on Jakalope's "null" list. Some have said that they believe especially diddin to be scum due to this, but I'm mainly looking at Hoppster here..

Ehhhh.

diddin looks worse than WLC imo.

Really, I'd still like to lynch TheJakalope today, but that'd make me look like a twat post-game if I'm wrong. >_>

UNVOTE:
VOTE: diddin

Well obviously I wasn't going to pick someone I thought was scum.

Well obviously using this logic it would make sense for you to have picked a town-read but you didn't.

[diddin]

Unvote

Vote: Diddin

Diddin is scum. Jake isn't free of not being scum yet because Diddin's interactions with Jake looked like terrible scum buddying. WeyounsLastClone reads as relatively scummy just by tone, but he hasn't given any real scumtells. Can someone elaborate on this case for me?

So first I'm scum for interactions with Jak, who you thought was scum, and now I'm scum even though Jak claimed a likely town role? Bullshit.

Hoppster: SMBM1 was based off of Super Mario RPG, this game is based off of Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Island DS. As for the babies: Baby Bowser is likely an anti-town role in this game due to the existence of Jake's role assuming Jake is telling the truth. Baby Wario could also possibly be not-town.

[Isa]

I read up and the following babies are in Yoshi's Island + DS:

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Wario
Peach
DK

Anyone claiming a baby character not from this list is probably lying, unless someone can show me that another baby is in the series.

[chkflip]

VOTE: Hoppster

Relevant

[DemonHybrid]

Because he's been taking potshots at

a random player on the playerlist

me

and voting Jaka when it was most opportune. Twice.

Fixed that for you.

The fact that it is me really has nothing to do with it, but nice try to twist my argument into something that wasn't the point in the first place!!!!

[DemonHybrid]

Also, you are perfectly happy to tell me that the "random player" was me, but not to argue against the fact that you were taking potshots and jumping on the opportune wagon, basically admitting to it.

I had a good chuckle. Become a comedian.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Bunnylover]

@Hoppster:
All the characters in that game appeared in Mario SuperStar RPG.
However, the Stork is involved in the beginning of Yoshi Island DS and is the reason the babies are seperated from the evil Kama (I think thats the evil dude).

@Isa: Why would you post a list of characters that should be in the game, when scum might'va not known that?

[Xeras]

Hmm... It seems like there is a stork character then...

Unvote, Vote Kcda

I will still be breathing down your neck, Jakalope.

[Kcdaspot]

Posting.

I've been away. And i will legitimately say that i have no intent on catching up right now.

in fact i might replace out. stay tuned.

[David Xanatos]

VOTE: WLC

DH's points strike a chord with me.. still don't like Bunny, but this makes me want to see WLC sweat.