Memento Mafia - Over

[AurorusVox]

Aurorus
Grey
Kat

My vote no matter what is not leaving these three until they are dead.

Pretty interesting considering you're voting Gandalf and have outlined that you think

he's

scum

[Battousai]

AV: edmund is scum
AV: edmund is scum
AV: edmund is scum
edmund: AV you've said nothing directed at me
AV: /facepalm

Directed at him. That's directed ABOUT him. He specifically asked you why, yet you decide to hammer instead.

Aurorus
Grey
Kat

My vote no matter what is not leaving these three until they are dead.

Pretty interesting considering you're voting Gandalf and have outlined that you think

he's

scum

Nice try at directing the discussion away from you. We are still in twilight. Vote is definitely coming to you tomorrow, regardless of edmund flip.

[AurorusVox]

Batt that is a ridiculous distinction to make.
Clearly something about him is inviting a response.

[gandalf5166]

Wow, I thought the playerlist would be at least decent to play with... this game is cringe-worthy right now.

The following people are scum to me (or are playing shitty on purpose), not willing to bend on:

Aurorus
Grey
Kat

My vote no matter what is not leaving these three until they are dead.

Ooh, we have a partner!

[AurorusVox]

Vote is definitely coming to you tomorrow, regardless of edmund flip.

Sounds like you know edmund is flipping scum and are trying to limit the damage that does to your scumteam by throwing mud at everyone who voted for him.

Anyway, are you suspicious of me only/mostly because I hammered or is there something more to it than that?

[Katsuki]

You know whats fun?

The fact that Batt is perfectly willing to vote Edmund D1, but refuses to bus now.

[GhostWriter]

I don't feel like arguing what' going to obviously end up as a town flip, so I'll just wait for the mod. If it isn't a town flip, then I guess you guys were somehow right, but the fact remains that we need to slow it the hell down. Cause you guys are going on some super weak ass shit.

[AurorusVox]

Not so sure, ghost. Obviously if he flips Town, we'll need to slow down, but quick-Hammering scum must be making them pretty nervous. As i think we see with batt's "Mudflinging" exercise. Maybe you'd care to comment on that, actually, while you "wait for the mod"? Especially the part where he says "Regardless of edmund's flip"...

[GhostWriter]

What is there to comment on? He already got called out on it, the balls in his court and he'll have to explain how Edmund flipping scum points to you being scum, as well as how Gandalf is scum, but not on his list.

[AlmasterGM]

Day 2, Vote Count 2

Nothing except the Gideon Bible.

Amrun

(0)

AurorusVox

(0)

Battousai

(0)

edmund.angles

(4) - Katsuki, GreyICE, gandalf5166, AurorusVox

Ellibereth

(0)

gandalf5166

(2) - Battousai, edmund.angles

GhostWriter

(0)

GreyICE

(0)

Katsuki

(0)

Note voting

(3) - Ellibereth, GhostWriter, Amrun

The deadline is Sunday, September 18th 2011 at 4pm EST.

Amrun

has been prodded.

[AurorusVox]

Goddamnit. I was really hoping edmund or Batt would post before AGM.

So the cat's out the bag guys.
Hands up if you knew I hadn't dropped the hammer vote?

\o/ { oh, me! me! )

@Batt: still got a problem?

[Battousai]

This is what happened:

D1:
Aurorus: Vote over, edmund is also scum
Aurorus: Edmund's fate has been sealed

D2:
Kat votes edmund
Grey votes edmund
Aurorus fake votes edmund
Gandalf an intent to hammer post
Edmund wants to know why people are voting him (so far no one has said anything)
Gandalf votes Edmund
Aurorus makes a complaint that Edmund isn't responding to him (when nothing was said to him...)
Edmund tells Aurorus to tell him why he thinks he is scummy
Aurorus hammers

Concerning me "throwing mud at the wagon": Fucking wake up. No one has posted a god damn reason for their vote. The whole wagon is a farce.

Also, how is quickhammering making scum nervous? Why the fuck wouldn't it make town nervous (especially if it caused a mislynch D1).

Gandalf isn't on that list, because his response to my post seemed townish to me (enough to put him in the null). He did seem to show confusion post-hammer.

I fucking hope you guys are scum, because you seem to be trying to lynch anyone who tries to use logic and slowing the game down to normal.

Edmund voters- You have failed to give reason for your votes, and failed to respond to edmund's question. Why is he scummy?

Aurorus- I thought you hammered.... fuck, maybe you thought you did as well... I still think you are scum, so:

unvote, vote AV

[AurorusVox]

I can confirm I knew I wasn't hammering.

N

ot so sure, ghost.

O

bviously if he flips

T

own, we'll need to slow down, but quick-

H

ammering scum must be making them pretty nervous.

A

s i think we see with batt's "

M

udflinging" exercise.

M

aybe you'd care to comment on that, actually, while you "wait for the mod"?

E

specially the part where he says "

R

egardless of edmund's flip"...

[AurorusVox]

Watching you both squirm while no one tells you why he's scum is entertaining but perhaps I should come clean as to why I think he's scum since I think GW is town and he can't see it yet.

I told edmund why I felt he was scum (his opening post was basically him complaining that I was trying to understand how votes in this game work. I feel that a better understanding of how votes work will benefit town, especially considering the explicit LACK of rules talking about votes in the OP. Since town outnumber scum, it is inherently in scum's best interest to confound the voting process for as long as possible, which is the end to which edmund's first post was aiming.)

I then continued to call him scum. I voted for him. Still no response from him.

I breached the topic of his ignorance of my posts and he says there was nothing for him to respond to.
Well, damn. I think there was. I mention edmund in the majority of my posts.

And I really don't like his disappearance after he thought he was hammered.
And I even more don't like the way Batt seemed to be waiting for the mod to post. All of a sudden after the VC, there's a big post written up.
My money is saying it's because he didn't want to get drawn on commenting on the pseudohammer gambit before it was confirmed either way.

[Battousai]

@Everyone on my wagon:
What are your cases on me?

[AurorusVox]

Let me help you with that

[GhostWriter]

I will grant you that your reasoning is, indeed, sound. I still am uncomfortable with the speed of the day. I can't build reads if all I'm getting from most people are votes and nothing else. Or nothing. Some people are giving nothing.

[gandalf5166]

My case on him is that he's scum.

[Battousai]

Aurorus- Looks like I got ninja'd there. Oh, and btw, I have classes so I don't have the time to be on every minute of the day.

This game is really pissing me off. I did not sign up for a game like this, so I'll bow out.

Mod: I'm replacing out

I'll try and find a replacement myself, and until the spot is filled, I'll be active (but to a lesser degree). Sorry.

[edmund.angles]

Wasn't he going to claim at L-1?

I said considered myself at L-1 because four people had the intention of voting me.
I'll only claim if 5 people intends to vote me.

AV: edmund is scum
AV: edmund is scum
AV: edmund is scum
edmund: AV you've said nothing directed at me
AV: /facepalm

What the hell do you expect me to say? Did you expect me to guess why you think I'm scum and then answer it?
/facepalm

I told edmund why I felt he was scum

No you didn't.

(his opening post was basically him complaining that I was trying to understand how votes in this game work. I feel that a better understanding of how votes work will benefit town, especially considering the explicit LACK of rules talking about votes in the OP. Since town outnumber scum, it is inherently in scum's best interest to confound the voting process for as long as possible, which is the end to which edmund's first post was aiming.)

Finally a reason.
I was only half serious about my vote.
The serious part is as you mention 'it is inherently in scum's best interest to confound the voting process for as long as possible'.
You questioned the core mechanics of voting. Sure it might be a bastard game but once we got to 5-6 and nothing happened then we would know. Even if you were right it would take longer to find out if half the people were unvoting.

And I really don't like his disappearance after he thought he was hammered.
And I even more don't like the way Batt seemed to be waiting for the mod to post. All of a sudden after the VC, there's a big post written up.
My money is saying it's because he didn't want to get drawn on commenting on the pseudohammer gambit before it was confirmed either way.

You voted very late Sunday (11:27 pm in my time zone).
The little time I've had to be on today, I've had to spend modding.

[GhostWriter]

This is not a bastard game, do not call it one again.
He did not question the core mechanic, he

tested

the core mechanic, and then announced afterword what he was doing. And he didn't encourage anyone else to follow suit. Also, you said, in your first post, that AV was paranoid about the rules. How does "jizzing with anticipation" about the unknown rules read as paranoid?

And, for the record, you have 4 votes. You are at L-1. And you are claim stalling. Claim next post, and I am dead serious.

[GreyICE]

My case on him is that he's scum.

Some days it's so bad you have to sheep gandalf.

[edmund.angles]

This is not a bastard game, do not call it one again.

I never said it was, I never suspected it was. I was talking from AV's perspective.

How does "jizzing with anticipation" about the unknown rules read as paranoid?

Paranoid about the core mechanics of the game, not paranoid about other players.

And, for the record, you have 4 votes. You are at L-1. And you are claim stalling. Claim next post, and I am dead serious.

That's 5.
I'm Leonard Shelby, VT.

[GhostWriter]

This is not a bastard game, do not call it one again.

I never said it was, I never suspected it was. I was talking from AV's perspective.

AV also did not throw the word "bastard" out there. Ever. I double checked.

How does "jizzing with anticipation" about the unknown rules read as paranoid?

Paranoid about the core mechanics of the game, not paranoid about other players.[/quote]
I never mentioned about other players. I said about the unknown rules, which, no doubt, make up the mechanics of the game.

[edmund.angles]

I didn't say he said it was bastard.
I said I analyzed the game from AV's perspective.
I couldn't rule out that he might think it was bastard.
IMO messing with the voting mechanism would be bastard or at least bastardish.
I argued that even if AV thought such rules were possible it still made no sense to unvote.

Paranoid might have been the wrong word.