TV Tropes: A Battle Worth Fighting [Endgame]

[Slaxx]

Parama don't ignore the Packbat wagon I want a town read on you it would make the game funner.

[Parama]

I am voting Packbat <.<

[Slaxx]

Yeah that was RVS goof.

[Packbat]

What's your line of reasoning for voting me?

You have 1 post to explain.

Paraphrasing liberally: The Fonz pointed out that you were all "Quilford is suspicious" without voting Quilford, to which you replied, "I was already voting for Parama". So, naturally, I examine your quoted reasons for voting Parama - which consist of "I can't get good reads on him".

That's crap. No reads = null ≠ scum. If you

have

evidence of scumminess in someone else, that trumps a default null read every time.

[Packbat]

In other words, your behavior doesn't make sense from a town perspective.

[Katsuki]

Still waiting to hear from Quilford

[TheLonging]

What's your line of reasoning for voting me?

You have 1 post to explain.

Paraphrasing liberally: The Fonz pointed out that you were all "Quilford is suspicious" without voting Quilford, to which you replied, "I was already voting for Parama". So, naturally, I examine your quoted reasons for voting Parama - which consist of "I can't get good reads on him".

That's crap. No reads = null ≠ scum. If you

have

evidence of scumminess in someone else, that trumps a default null read every time.

I didn't have scum reads. I can vote Parama. I always vote Parama. Even out of RVS. I'm surprised he hasn't voted for me once.

Your reasoning is crap.

Although now I have a scumread.

unvote
Vote: Packbat

[Parama]

L-2 now, anyone wanna put him at L-1?

[The Fonz]

Hey Fonz you missed where I voted for Parama.

No, I didn't.

Soooooooo

Why go "see this is why scum claim miller"

and then vote elsewhere?

Because yea, thats why scum claim miller but why waste the words unless you think its scum?

To point out that assuming he's town solely on the basis of that is retarded, and thus shouldn't be done.

What's your line of reasoning for voting me?

You have 1 post to explain.

Paraphrasing liberally: The Fonz pointed out that you were all "Quilford is suspicious" without voting Quilford, to which you replied, "I was already voting for Parama". So, naturally, I examine your quoted reasons for voting Parama - which consist of "I can't get good reads on him".

That's crap. No reads = null ≠ scum. If you

have

evidence of scumminess in someone else, that trumps a default null read every time.

This, precisely. Kept a page one random vote over an actual suspicion, however weak.

[The Fonz]

And we can also add 'OMGUSed someone to L-1 on page two, for scumhunting.'

[GhostWriter]

Slaxx's 20 at that time, but also his 45. Especially his 45.
Quil's 27/28/29, and to a lesser extent the wording of 22 "miller claim is trufax"

VOTE: Slaxx

Packbat commented on what you mentioned, and then, after seeing the TL votes, takes a look at them and votes TL. Furthermore, you're essentially condemning him for commenting on anything after condemning him for commenting on nothing, both of which happen midway through page 2, meaning there isn't a lot else to comment on. You read, to me, as scum attempting to take a RVS wagon to lynch.

[Slaxx]

No, that wasn't his reason for voting him. Let me derp it down for you.

1. Packbat says there is nothing interesting to comment on
2. He rereads the whole fucking thread and comments on everything after I ask
3. I'm like okay, switch to TL since he is at least spouting something out
4. He then conveniently notices (even though he JUST re examined the thread to give me opinions on everything) a quote by TL AFTER a wagon (a counter to his wagon of course) starts forming on him, quotes him, and votes him.
5. However this quote did not show up in his analysis, in the other players' reasoning, and was there BEFORE all this happened. Packbat was looking for an excuse to vote TL. Packbat is scum.

I am

not

taking an RVS wagon to lynch. This is no longer an RVS wagon. Parama and Spyrex and Kats obviously agree with me otherwise they would have unvoted. Just because a RVS wagon happened to hit scum doesn't mean I should back off just because it was an RVS wagon.

[GhostWriter]

So it somehow doesn't seem likely that he reread specifically with what you said in mind, then commented, then sees two back-to-back votes for TL and then decides to go look at TL?

Yes, yes, I am aware RVS wagons can hit scum, and that town should not back off of scum simply because it started as an RVS wagon. However I am also aware that scum would love taking an RVS wagon that hit scummy town to lynch, and I'm feeling that vibe from you.

[Slaxx]

I realize that he may have overlooked it before, but I find it suspicious he just happens to overlook it the first time, and the thing he found just happened to be on the counterwagon.

[GhostWriter]

Once again, two immediate TL votes, plus the way he phrased his vote, not only suggest that he saw them and then looked at TL himself, but they also suggest that he was voting in response to The Fonz, who actually had a case for TL.

[GhostWriter]

Actually, he was responding to TL himself, but still. On top of that, TL is probably scum alongside you.

[Slaxx]

It really sucks you're town.

TL and I are both town. If you would just wise up on packbat and tell me that third vote didn't look opportunistic as fuck after active lurking for the first two page than okay.

Question: if the rvs wagon was on someone else an I still pushed packbat in the same way would I still be scum?

[GhostWriter]

Depends. If he still had the amount of votes on him where it could make you look like scum manipulating town into lynching scummy town, then yes. However, I might have picked to vote Quil over you at that point.

[Slaxx]

K whatever, quil is town too.

[GhostWriter]

Why are TL and Quil both town?

[Slaxx]

I explained quiltown already. It's meta related but I'm farily confident on it. Town-TL is based on pack-scum. So is kats-town.

[Packbat]

L-2 now, anyone wanna put him at L-1?

By "L-2" you mean "L-1", of course. And by "L-1" you mean "quickhammer".

I've got my eye on you.

No, that wasn't his reason for voting him. Let me derp it down for you.

1. Packbat says there is nothing interesting to comment on
2. He rereads the whole fucking thread and comments on everything after I ask

False, actually. I glanced back at one or two posts I remember noticing. What actually happened was correctly diagnosed by GhostWriter:

So it somehow doesn't seem likely that he reread specifically with what you said in mind, then commented, then sees two back-to-back votes for TL and then decides to go look at TL?

Yes, yes, I am aware RVS wagons can hit scum, and that town should not back off of scum simply because it started as an RVS wagon. However I am also aware that scum would love taking an RVS wagon that hit scummy town to lynch, and I'm feeling that vibe from you.

Once again, two immediate TL votes, plus the way he phrased his vote, not only suggest that he saw them and then looked at TL himself, but they also suggest that he was voting in response to The Fonz, who actually had a case for TL.

If it weren't for the fact that TheLonging came up with a nonsensical excuse for his actions, my post would have been a quote of

The Fonz

, followed by "Good catch - vote TheLonging".

[TheLonging]

Mod: need to replace out

I know it's early on, but my parents are fucking up and getting a divorce. so sorry to do this early.

My empathies go out. Thank you for letting me know quickly.

[Katsuki]

Good luck TL~

[Fate]

We will have a replacement shortly.