Kids in the Hall Mafia - Game Over, Daves are Supreme

[Porochaz]

Crap my threads got mixed up. Sorry.

[Porochaz]

I dont know how though...

In other news if you want to know what DC comics to buy...

[Internet Stranger]

...are you drunk?

[Porochaz]

Ive drank a lot this weekend.

[Untrod Tripod]

Based on the questionnaire answers I'd say imaginality is scum because he answered in the exact same format as Untrod. So did Umbrage and I thought he was scum for it before I read the list of dead. And it's likely that two scum would do the same thing here because it's unconscious.

I'm on to page 6. Only thing on my schedule tomorrow is vegging out on the couch. Which means reading. Or Halo. Hopefully reading.

...what?

[MrBuddyLee]

@Baltar

, why is your play so different in this game compared to in Oldy? You seemed much more inquisitive in that game and genuinely curious about alignments.

[MrBuddyLee]

Scratch that, wrong guy wrong game.

[MrBuddyLee]

Hey Baltar, didn't we play in a game together? I can't find it.

[VP Baltar]

I don't recall so. You might have been in a hydra in California Triology III. I can't remember. I will freely admit that my content level is down lately, but that's a result of me moving in a few weeks. I have a lot of balls in the air at the moment.

[DrippingGoofball]

I really like hazelnuts.

[evilpacman18]

scooby's a bit of a hypocrite. Talking about people trying hard so they look good when he's more srs bznz than anyone else on that page. I don't think it's a mistake decent scum would make though and Umbrage's post after it leads to believe even more that he's probably not scum.
Vollkan looks town to me. Last time I played with him he was scum and all he was doing was asking questions that went nowhere. This time he's actually looking like he's trying to make use of information.
Not that it's mandatory to explain every read, especially town reads, but imaginality had an unexplained town read on Umbrage. 188's gonna be a really useful post. Of course, a lot of people called Umbrage town at that point. Which is weird.

Up to page 11.

[Lurconis]

Yesterday I mentioned I thought Gurgi and Mist were scum together wanted to clarify why. All game mist has been trying to make it seem like he thought gurgi was scum without giving any reason it started with this post

note to other players, school team stuff is catching up on me, and I've be away for 30 hours, sorry about this

a quick phne post(i've been skimming)

I'll be much more active when I come back and post my reads. Did we decide it was NK? Pretty surprised that no one protected kison during night phase, probably implies no one has the power? top of my list right now are gurgi, scooby, vpb, not too sure about vollkan. ek's vote is justified, but not cool.

scooby, why didn't you mention me under people who need to post more? AND VPBaltar did the same on 425. I definitely belonged on both lists, scum obviously (maybe)trying to accidently pretend I'm part of their team, and not draw attention to the lack of posts by mentioning me after discussion? Is this too paranoid/too centered around mememe? vpb didnt bus scooby in the beginning, was quick to attack pops at l-1 to save his scumbro, I saw some buddying on page 9. Less-I'm tempted to toss a vote at scooby due to all the associative tells we might get, but I'll check out the thread again when im back in case I royally messed up. prozac probably took some meds, he's not seeming drunk anymore. 4give and 4get bad grammar.

He puts gurgi at one of his top scum reads but doesn't give any reason as to why he then goes on to elaborate on why he thinks scooby and VP are scum. It seems like he is trying to make it so if gurgi flips scum he can say he suspected him without having to go after him. He also does the same with Volkan on this post. This is post #500 and this is the first time he says who he thinks is scum.

This is my post.

EK, it might have been a weak post, but I noticed a few things about some posters I found somewhat scummy and shared what I felt. This is one of my first few games on the site, and I'm trying to learn the ropes as quickly as I can. I've read many games where much newer posters make a dumb mistake and hinder the town, and certainly don't want to go down that lane.

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prozac is tunneling on umbrage, who got excited as Day 1 was about to end. I think that umbrage is somewhat bipolar or gets really bored when activity dies down and hurts the town. That one capslock page reminded me of xReckonerx, but people hated it, and umbrage didn't really give me town vibes today. Gurgi posted a lot in Day 1, but is really slipping under the radar for Day 2(I'm one to talk). He has not defended himself adaquately, but there are some Somalian sandstorms or something like that so maybe he's busy? IS is looking pro-town to me. maybe llkan might be scum, but not for IS's reasons. My views changed quite a bit from one reread, and I'll wait for gurgi to post a bit more before I vote for him. I'll sleep on it. Why was it necessary to mention sunny side up eggs in the first place?

Here he once again casts suspicion on Gurgi while also offering an excuse for him. He says his views changed quite a bit from one reread, well you used to think he was scum so does that mean now you think he is town?

Then we have what 100% confirms it for me the umbrage scandal

VOTE: Umbrage

Is there really a point to testing this? I can't think of any reasons a player would post it unless it were true.

Voting Umbrage while saying he thinks it is stupid to test it because no one would claim it if this wasn't true.

Wait I'm confused... Mist, you are quoting the post above you, #694, but the quote you are making doesn't show in that post.... what's up with that?

It was in his signature.

Umbrage's post was good until he said "which is why EK is scum."

I'm going to put my vote on LG for aforementioned reasons.

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Vote: Lord Gurgi

He changes his vote to gurgi after i posted my quotes but according to him

^^ That post was meant to be #700, I didn't refresh. Vote remains as is, we've already wasted 2 whole days on Umbrage.

Which means he meant to do that before my post so what aforementioned reasons was he switching his vote. This seems to me like he was trying to unvote umbrage to maybe save him as it came when Umbrage was at L-1. He thought he could switch his vote off umbrage maybe people would stop testing and he places his vote on Gurgi knowing he really doesn't have to worry about that wagon becoming viable anytime soon and could easily get off. Also this vote comes after his comment that he had changed his mind on reread and wanted to wait until Gurgi posted but apparently changes his mind and decides to vote anyway.

This is where it gets really telling

unvote
Vote: Umbrage
unvote
Vote: Lord Gurgi

If he's that princess role that requires +1 vote to lynch, he should be lynched.

I want a few more votes on Umbrage to be sure we can't kill him before we try to lynch somebody else.

How many more? And all I've seen are you guys just railing on Umbrage who isn't the world's most likeable guy. If we can decide on something concrete (# of votes before we do something useful) then fine, I'll put my vote back on him, but it seems to me like you want him policy-vigged even if he gets 14+votes and survives. I agree that he is a huge pain, and I don't see why EK is obvscum, but if you're both pro-town this is an incredible waste of time. I've heard of roles where people need less votes to be lynched, but rarely for people to be able to survive a lynch. Is this sort of role unheard of?

I could really go for a vollkan or UT lynch at this point. I mean, if this really is a clusterfuck of town-town fighting, scum are sitting there laughing, so we should wagon somebody who is quietly fueling the fire (vollkan, LG) or somebody who has done noooooooooothing (UT)

EK's words.

He acts like he is really working with town by voting and then quicly unvoting saying now we can see if he just needed +1 votes, even though we already knew that wasn't the case becasue Umbrage was already at 11 when Mist beauty unvoted a moment ago. Here he places Umbrage back at L-1 for a quick second to make it seem like he is really trying to side with the majority.

Then seeing that Umbrage is at L-1 and people are really going to push the Umbrage wagon he hammers with this post

I think that if Umbrage were unlynchable town or scum, he would vote for himself. I guess this issue has to be resolved before we can discuss anything else, but if he gets lynched, discussion will end.

unvote, Vote: Umbrage

Giving a kind of reason for his vote. Reading the above post to me sounds like it is coming from someone who knows umbrage is now lynched it sounds like a sad kid saying I guess i'll do it but i don't want to.


So looking at this in regards to the umbrage lynch the unvoting twice while umbrage was at L-1 etc.. Mist Beauty has moved to my #1 scum choice so I am going to move my vote

VOTE: Mist Beauty[/b]

[Lord Gurgi]

The newbies are cannibalising each other. Joy.

Spyrex

[MrBuddyLee]

Vollkan looks town to me. Last time I played with him he was scum and all he was doing was asking questions that went nowhere. This time he's actually looking like he's trying to make use of information.

Up to page 11.

What made you think vollkan was asking useful questions in his 14 posts leading up to page 11? Did you like the way he supported the scoobywagon until the vanilla claim, or the way he switched to VPBaltar? Did you feel he had good reasons for unvoting scooby? Who is the scum you feel vollkan was on the trail of in the first 11 pages of this game?

[Lurconis]

VOTE: Mist Beauty

[scooby]

I don't even rememeber Mist Beauty was in the game. But

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[scooby]

Second, people who need to die are still: Umbrage, Lurconis, Volkan, UT and LordGurgi.

I'm keeping my vote on Umbrage. That wagon shouldn't have died and should come back now.

Finally, while I hate Gurgi and while he needs to die a slow death, iirc proxy vote means "giving my vote to IS" and not "vote:IS" so those recent attacks are crap as well.

I was going to write a long post but I realized that it was going to be very similar to this one so let's just interchange Umbrage with vollkan.

Seriously, IS is a terrible wagon.

I notice that 3/4 of your scumlist is lurkers/low impact players.

Also do you *really* think a scum player would try as hard as I did to get Umbrage lynched, rather than, say, support the wagon while trying to deflect suspicion onto another player (like, say, exactly what IS did).

Fair enough. I was already subcosnsciously thinking you werenot scum for that move.

Re: scumlist. I don't see Lurconis, Volkan or Gurgi as lurkers. In fact, they look like strategical posters that were very active when I was about to be lynched and now they are laying low looking for other mislynches.

[Mist Beauty]

First off, I'm female. I thought Mist Beauty and a pretty avatar would be enough of a clue, but just wanted to point this out.

I like how DGB attempts to interrogate others while ignoring posts directed toward him. Not scum skimming, but not pro-town actions either.

Lurconis, you've gone through some of my posts from the previous day barring recent ones, and come up with a conclusion that you probably were looking for in the first place, most probably because LG voted for you.

I'm on my phone, but your wall is pretty insubstantial so I'll just reference it in chunks.

Under quote 1: LG was at the top WITH THREE OTHER POSTERS, not in descending order. Reasons weren't given because I felt much of it was obvious and that I would be parroting others. Most of it had already been said, especially stuff in Day 1.

2: Rarely does anyone come out and say XXXX is confirmed scum. I was/and still am pretty suspicious of LG. Scum would not REPEATEDLY bring lurkerscum partners into the open or call them out, but probably toss out a vote and attack other posters, shifting their vote for the mislynch once the wagon got going. LG has been suspected by others throughout the game, I felt that he was slipping by last Day. Then you quote me posting a bunch of reads, followed by "my views have changed since my reread" and interpreted that to mean "LG was scum, now, obvtown." Nice.

The umbrage voting stuff: I came in when people were annoyed that I wasn't posting. I admitted my mistake in my previous post, but I felt that we were wasting our dayphase lynching a purposefully obnoxious poster. I made a mistake, but I posted my thoughts and was trying to be active and post constructively. Do you really think ANY scum members would posting like I did when Umbrage when he already had 10 votes and others were asking everyone to pile on more votes? If I were his partner, I would quietly voted and let everyone have fun with Umbrage. I hadn't seen a game with a role like this, and thought his initial survival was enough. But I changed my mind when vpb and others were set on umbrage, and was somewhat convinced to throw down the final vote. Scum probably bussed him quickly or tried to distract from the wagon early on.

Ironically enough after Gurgi's vote on you and your post, I actually feel that it's more likely that you and gurgi are scum partners. I don't see why waiting for someone to post is scummy.

[Lord Gurgi]

VOTE: Mist Beauty

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vollkan

(4) Internet Stranger, Porochaz, scooby, Medicated Lain

Internet Stranger

(4) vollkan, DrippingGoofball, Untrod Tripod, elvis_knits

Mist Beauty

(2) Lurconis, Lord Gurgi

SpyreX

(1) VP Baltar

Not Voting: imaginality, SpyreX, MrBuddyLee, evilpacman18, Mist Beauty

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch or 8 to No Lynch


I'm working on the imaginality replacement. Unfortunately my replacement list has all discovered the joys of the world outside. If you have any friends, make them do it!

[Porochaz]

Im okay with a mist beauty vote.

and a pacman vote, your boring the hell out of me.

but vollkan is still no. 1.

In other news, the people who win the "FUCKING SHUT UP, I DON'T CARE" award is jointly DGB, IS and Elvis. For making this conversation last longer than a bad soap plotline and not really going over new ground and for taking the focus off the rest of the playerbase. Bored players are back to making random votes such as Lucronis and Im blaming you 3.

[VP Baltar]

The newbies are cannibalising each other. Joy.

Who are the newbies you're referring to here?

[Lord Gurgi]

Lucornis and Mist Beauty.

[VP Baltar]

So why make a sarcastic remark about them like they're being stupid noobs and then proceed to vote Mist Beauty?

[DrippingGoofball]

In other news, the people who win the "FUCKING SHUT UP, I DON'T CARE" award is jointly DGB, IS and Elvis.

Erm, yeah, that's why I haven't engaged conversationally with IS, and why I'm keeping a low profile right now.

IS is still scum, though, and it's a total no-brainer. I don't get why he's not lynched yet. I read his posts, and from my perspective, it's absolutely impossible for him to be town. I think there is an unspoken collective will to shirt focus from us three attention whores, even if that means giving a scum a free pass.

IS's behavior yesterday was the most scummy with regards to Umbrage, with MistBeauty a close second. SpyreX is depriving us of moonbeams, so he's starting to worry me again. And evilpacman/Mysterio haven't impressed me at all thus far, they are still in the scum list.

Shall I repeat my case against IS?

Shall I analyze his behavior today? I've been avoiding doing it, because (1) I thought anyone would see for themselves that IS is scum so there was no need for me to push the issue, and (2) I am trying to avoid conflict with IS in order to make the game more agreeable, but he's still scum and he needs rope bad.