Video Game UPick Mafia (Game Over)

[ToastyToast]

Dramonic is asking for a vig shot, the other 2 are indeed scummy.

@kdowns: Why did you claim so early?

[WrathChild]

Oh yeah, speaking of softclaims(thanks Deke), I'm a miller. Or, more specifically, any and all alignment divining results give the opposite result.

Make of that what you will.

I am very comfortable lynching Maruchan today.

Speaking of which I just noticed something in my role PM and hereby declare Sera guaranteed town. Here's why:

I have a condition in my Role that changes me to a miller and the wording was specifically as Sera detailed... the opposite result, which is a pretty non-tradtional way to describe a Miller (Cop Sanity Issues Implied). No scum would be given that information. Sera is Town to the Bone.

[Maruchan]

No scum would be given that information

LETS PLAY OUTGUESS THE MOD!

Its this new fun game that is all the rage these days.

Perhaps you've heard of it?

[WrathChild]

No scum would be given that information

LETS PLAY OUTGUESS THE MOD!

Its this new fun game that is all the rage these days.

Perhaps you've heard of it?

Take a minute and think about it. Is there any reason scum would be given a Miller role? I know for a fact that Sera has a Miller role because he described it exactly as mine.

Your post is pointless, and trying to cover-up the fact that I just confirmed Sera town, scum hate confirmed town don't they Maru?

[GreyICE]

Oh yeah, speaking of softclaims(thanks Deke), I'm a miller. Or, more specifically, any and all alignment divining results give the opposite result.

Make of that what you will.

I am very comfortable lynching Maruchan today.

Speaking of which I just noticed something in my role PM and hereby declare Sera guaranteed town. Here's why:

I have a condition in my Role that changes me to a miller and the wording was specifically as Sera detailed... the opposite result, which is a pretty non-tradtional way to describe a Miller (Cop Sanity Issues Implied). No scum would be given that information. Sera is Town to the Bone.

-_-

Why aren't we killing you?

[WrathChild]

Why are you asking to get me lynched?

[ToastyToast]

@Wrath: Games tend to have, you know, fake claims. This often includes a full role PM, so although I believe Seraphim to be town, thats the wrong way to go about it.

[Maruchan]

No scum would be given that information

LETS PLAY OUTGUESS THE MOD!

Its this new fun game that is all the rage these days.

Perhaps you've heard of it?

Take a minute and think about it. Is there any reason scum would be given a Miller role? I know for a fact that Sera has a Miller role because he described it exactly as mine.

Your post is pointless, and trying to cover-up the fact that I just confirmed Sera town, scum hate confirmed town don't they Maru?

did I try to deny your claim on Sera? no.

I just outcalled your use of the phrase " No scum would ....."

Nice trying to implicate me though.

[Maruchan]

@Wrath: Games tend to have, you know, fake claims. This often includes a full role PM, so although I believe Seraphim to be town, thats the wrong way to go about it.

Yakno, this is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Whowuldathunk

[WrathChild]

@Wrath: Games tend to have, you know, fake claims. This often includes a full role PM, so although I believe Seraphim to be town, thats the wrong way to go about it.

How many times have you seen scum given Fake-Ability claims? Fake name claims, yes, fake ability claims, I'm yet to have seen one. That doesn't say it's impossible, but pretty unlikely I think. Usually a fake miller claim is scum just trying a gambit on their own accord, not as assigned by the mod. If he were a Babyface/GF, then he would have not said anything about opposites.

In this particular case I'm going with "what seems most likely is probably true".

[Kdub]

Day 1, Vote Count #15

MagnaofIllusion (0)

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Dekes (1)

- Scott Brosius

WrathChild (1)

- ToastyToast

GreyICE (0)

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Ant_to_the_max (0)

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Maruchan (5)

- Dekes, Hiraki, Maxous, WrathChild, kdowns

RayFrost (2)

- AGar, Meransiel

Hiraki (0)

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ToastyToast (0)

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Maxous (0)

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AGar (0)

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dramonic (1)

- RayFrost

Seraphim (1)

- Maruchan

Meransiel (5)

- Ant_to_the_max, SpyreX, Seraphim, GreyICE, dramonic

SpyreX (0)

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Scott Brosius (0)

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kdowns (1)

- MagnaofIllusion

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (0)

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17 votes available, 9 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is October 5, ~ 7 pm PDT

[RayFrost]

Wrath. Fake abilities are part of fake roles.

If you want, you can have an example of me-scum in a game with a fully made on request flavored role PM from the mod with abilities. By the power of control V. I made up townie rewarder, the mod made an appropriate fakeclaim for me, flavor-wise, with said ability. I also previously had a fakeclaim pre-made for me.

[Maruchan]

^^

What he said. I know mods that are willing to completely fabricate fakeclaims for you based on an ability, role, or nameclaim you give them.

[WrathChild]

Wrath. Fake abilities are part of fake roles.

If you want, you can have an example of me-scum in a game with a fully made on request flavored role PM from the mod with abilities. By the power of control V. I made up townie rewarder, the mod made an appropriate fakeclaim for me, flavor-wise, with said ability. I also previously had a fakeclaim pre-made for me.

Like I said, it is too rare of an occurance (fake-abilities) for me doubt what appears to be the most obvious of answers... Sera is town.

[RayFrost]

Shall I also link you to the other perhaps two hundred plus flavored mafia games where each and every time the mod has provided a

complete

fake role PM on site, or are you just going to admit that you don't know the site meta? I'm being sincere in this question.

[ToastyToast]

@Wrath: Games tend to have, you know, fake claims. This often includes a full role PM, so although I believe Seraphim to be town, thats the wrong way to go about it.

How many times have you seen scum given Fake-Ability claims? Fake name claims, yes, fake ability claims, I'm yet to have seen one. That doesn't say it's impossible, but pretty unlikely I think. Usually a fake miller claim is scum just trying a gambit on their own accord, not as assigned by the mod. If he were a Babyface/GF, then he would have not said anything about opposites.

In this particular case I'm going with "what seems most likely is probably true".

Quite a lot of times

[Dekes]

Apologies, but I really need to get that apartment searching sorted out.

V/LA through Monday

Fwiw,

Unvote

Deadline is still a little down the road, so don't do anything silly while I'm not caught up, please.

V/LA acknowledged

[WrathChild]

Shall I also link you to the other perhaps two hundred plus flavored mafia games where each and every time the mod has provided a

complete

fake role PM on site, or are you just going to admit that you don't know the site meta? I'm being sincere in this question.

I am new to this meta, so I won't pretend like I know everything, but I just went and looked at the first 4 games of the completed large theme games sub-forum, none of them had fake abilities in the fake role claims. Tomorrow I will continue to educate myself on this matter.

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: RayFrost

[RayFrost]

Shall I also link you to the other perhaps two hundred plus flavored mafia games where each and every time the mod has provided a

complete

fake role PM on site, or are you just going to admit that you don't know the site meta? I'm being sincere in this question.

I am new to this meta, so I won't pretend like I know everything, but I just went and looked at the first 4 games of the completed large theme games sub-forum, none of them had fake abilities in the fake role claims. Tomorrow I will continue to educate myself on this matter.

Let's not waste time looking thoroughly into this, suffice to say that it happens, can happen, has happened, and is hardly as much a rarity as you seem to think. It's not really relevant aside from the wrongness of your assertion.

GreyICE: stop ignoring me. I want an answer to my question, thanks.

[SpyreX]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p3449874

I've never seen, nor would I ever like to see, a post like this again ever.

Unless its a neon sign for BULLETS AND ROPES GO HERE.

Too many of you are scummy for me to be happy.

Scott is town.

Wraith is not.

Meran needs dead. Wraith needs dead. Dramonic needs dead.

I agree to a degree with most of this except dramonic. Its not 2scum4skum but he's just so earnest with his apathy it feels like baaad town.

[Ant_to_the_max]

Flaw: Mind games. That whole WIFOM pit of "Would they kill him or wouldn't they kill him if he's town?"
Flaw: If he chooses to "save it" and we get confirmation that an action goes through tonight, he dies tomorrow a most fiery death. And we've made that very clear.

So care to try again?

"Flaw 1" - moot point.
"Flaw 2" -I don't think you got what I was trying to say there.

I've completed a Newbie and

Empking's Dayless mafia

. Both in which my side won... (Both were Town) .

lololololololololololololololol
he was the first NK victim and set up was 100% town sided
[/nostalgia]

WrathChild's claim sounds sketchy.
What is the trigger?

[SpyreX]

I have a condition in my Role that changes me to a miller and the wording was specifically as Sera detailed... the opposite result, which is a pretty non-tradtional way to describe a Miller (Cop Sanity Issues Implied). No scum would be given that information. Sera is Town to the Bone.

WrathChild's claim sounds sketchy.
What is the trigger?

Ohhh man ohh man can't we make ant be dead?

[Ant_to_the_max]

Yeah, he says he has something that changes him to a miller.
I don't want to wait until a cop gets a guilty on him and he claims that he was changed to miller.

Could also be playing dumb with the "scum don't get fake abilities" after he just claimed a fake ability.

[SpyreX]

No.

See, if something triggers it WHEN IT TRIGGERS then he says so.

There'd be no reason whatsoever to want to know a piece of information like that at almost any juncture. Especially not this one.

Besides, 'millers' get a special investigative technique that comes much later.