PYP 5: Democracy Ho! (Game)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

The difference is that yours are actually dumb, Reck. I mean, I did calculations to see how well my strategy'd do on average and the results are pretty much in line with my predictions whereas you wasted 70 on silly Cop and Dayvig bids.

[Parama]

join this marathon game you nubs
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=19129

[implosion]

I considered doing what CES did.

[Magister Ludi]

While this mass claim finishes.

My Quick Reads on remaining players:

• 1.) Juls
  My strongest town
  read
  by far. Not only has she shown consistent town view points in the quick topic, she would have to be extreme gambiting scum to claim guilty essentially on hoopla when hoopla was under little to no pressure.
  
  2.) Parama
  Town read as well. I don't think scum would be so blatant in saying they took strongman, and the fact that the kill failed twice probably indicates he is not on the scum team.
  
  3.) Katsuki
  One of four players which I believe contain the remaining two scum. He and hoopla look like scum distancing from eachother. Hoopla put occasional votes on Katsuki but never really pushed anything, and Katsuki has a few lukewarm statements against Hoopla in return.
  
  4.) Hoopla
  Scum according to juls.
  
  9.) gandalf5166
  Town for picking up cop and then claiming a result.
  
  10.) Cogito Ergo Sum
  play has been town
  
  12.) Vifam
  Not entirely confident one way or the other. Juls has a town read on him, though.
  
  13.) implosion
  confirmed town
  
  14.) xRECKONERx
  confirmed town
  
  15.) Ellibereth
  Lurkish behavior, among other things.
  
  16.) Nocmen
  Also a player I consider scum. pushed on parama in an attempt to play up the scumminess of 'the strongman', and weirdly voted me after the seraphim lynch on day two, as if Nocmen knew that he was flipped town.
  
  18.) Zdenek
  Plan looked intially scum sided. Not impressed since.

We need to finish this mass claim, lynch hoopla, and then get to lynching the underlined players.

[xRECKONERx]

why's implosion conftown

[Magister Ludi]

I used my weak doctor ability on him. Night Two.

[Vifam]

One shot BG.

1-Shot Bodyguard: 90

1-Shot Self-Watcher:10

[Juls]

35 - Bodyguard (Success)
46 - PGO (Fail)
19 - Self-Doc (Fail)

One shot BG.

1-Shot Bodyguard: 90

1-Shot Self-Watcher:10

What's wrong with this picture. Anyone?

[Vifam]

Oh yeah

Hoopla is scum.

[Juls]

Vifam, have you used your abilities?

[Vifam]

Outbidded son.


VOTE: Hoopla


Pedit:Nope, I have yet to use my oneshot.

[implosion]

653 looks good, except I'd swap vifam and zdenek. Not confident in vifam as town, but i am confident in zdenek as town.

Hoopla was already going to be lynched no matter what.

Also, I have something useful to say once massclaim is over, so remind me to say that.

[implosion]

hey vifam, unvote for now. we don't want to give hoopla a chance to self-hammer to cut off the massclaim.

[Juls]

Vifam, you are on me tonight. I will explain why after implosion claims. I think he and I are all that are left.

[Juls]

Oh and Ludi

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Hoopla

lol

[Juls]

Parama, that's not funny this time because you weren't on Hoopla.

[Parama]

I was laughing at hoopla's fakeclaim failing

[Juls]

Please unvote, so a self hammer isn't available.

[implosion]

neighborizer A - magister ludi
neighbor B - Ellibereth
neighbor C - Ellibereth
neighbor D - Ellibereth
rolecop A
rolecop B - Nocmen
RB A - Parama
RB B
Tracker A - implosion
Tracker B - implosion
Doctor A - juls
Doctor B
selfdoc - chamber
vig - fate
dayvig - maruchan
vanillavig - CES
cop - gandalf
jk
watcher - Juls
self watcher - Parama
bodyguard - Vifam (hoopla is also claiming it but is almost certainly lying)
pgo
white mage - juls
weak doc - Magister ludi
redirector - CES
gunsmith - David Xanatos
fruit vendor - implosion
strongman - Parama
neighbor spy - CES
power deleter - implosion

Only obvtown haven't claimed, so i'm just gonna go ahead. I won both trackers, the fruit vendor (the kumquat to gandalf was completely random, sorry x_X i did it because i had nothing better to do at night and was already obvtown), and the power deleter.
40 on tracker A, 23 on tracker b, 4 on the jailkeeper, 11 on the gunsmith, 11 on the fruit vendor, 1 on the strongman, 2 on each roleblocker and 6 on the power deleter.

Based on CES's claim, it's safe to say that any abilities not claimed were won by scum, or were tied for.

Both CES and I bid 4 on the jailkeeper; both Zdenek and Nocmen bid exactly 30 on the PGO.

Therefore, there's no guarantee that either of these are actually in play. If they are in play and no one claims them, then scum have them. Hoopla claimed to bid 46 on the PGO, but she lied about the bodyguard so she may have been lying about that too. She could also flip pgo, in which case, well, there's the pgo.

Anyway, the importantish thing that i wanted to mention earlier: we can use my power deleter + CES's vanilla vig to vig whoever we want if we don't want to vig someone who's already vanilla. We are in odds, so here's what we might want to do with this: save katsuki for later. After we lynch scum # 3, with only one scum left, have CES shoot katsuki.

If there are two kills that night, CES can't have made both. A PGO shenanigan is possible, but still.
If there's only one on kats, then well, we'll still be in odds and a scumspect will be dead.
if kats survives, either she's lying about being vanilla or CES is scum or CES was blocked or kats was jailkept. etc.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Unvote

we can use my power deleter + CES's vanilla vig to vig whoever we want

Pre-edit: nope, doesn't work.

[Katsuki]

I'm down with me being shot tonight.

Just remember that Nocmen is scum after I die.

[Magister Ludi]

Is there anything else that needs to be accomplished today?

[Nocmen]

I'm down with me being shot tonight.

Just remember that Nocmen is scum after I die.

And why is that?