Mortal Kombat Mafia (Game Over: Mafia Win)

[zMuffinMan]

How come you are pulling a Mastin and only including the most vocal players though? Don't you think any lurkers can be scum at all?

Bogre is a lurker. I think he's scum. I've been calling him scum all game. Darox is active lurking, so I wouldn't exactly call him vocal, either.

Why do you only attack the people who openly oppose you?

Do you mean "why do people I attack openly oppose me"?

Because you said not a word about me until I called you scum, Nero said not a word about me until I called him scum, and yesterday I was a town read for Darox, but hey, guess what... that's changed because... I'll give you three guesses.

All you are doing is a poorly disguised OMGUS, Muffin. Suddenly IS and Fonz are SK's? Are you insane? We were scum a second ago until I brought all of this up.

I always refer to anything that is anti-town as scum. If I'm talking about mafia, I'll say mafia, not scum. SK is scum. Mafia is scum. Anyone whose win con is in direct conflict with town's win con is scum.

Besides, I can't OMGUS when I'm the initiator.

[zMuffinMan]

Dude, what's funny is you were saying I was most likely town until I continued attacking you today. And I'm the one OMGUSing.

Silly, IS. You're caught scum, you can continue flailing until it's your time to die tomorrow.

[zMuffinMan]

hahahahahaha

I just went back and checked some of your posts from yesterday ISO.

In #1216 I'm the towniest of all the people who were on your wagon, apparently.

Hmm. Let me go check what OMGUS means. According to mafiawiki, OMGUS means "to attack someone who is calling you town". Yep, I'm definitely OMGUSing you. My apologies, IS.



Also, check out Darox's scum/town list yesterday and compare it to today

What's the major difference? Oh yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that I wasn't attacking Darox yesterday and his read on me was town then.

[zMuffinMan]

Actually, I'm most probably wrong about Darox/Nero/Bogre all being scum unless one of them is SK. They aren't all mafia together, that's for sure. They've voted together in succession far too much.

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT FOR KOMBATANTS

Day 6 Vote Count (#2)

Nero Cain (4) - Amrun, zMuffinMan, Oversoul, Nachomamma8
zMuffinMan (2) - Nero Cain, Internet Stranger
Amrun (1) - Toogeloo
Bogre (1) - GreyICE
Darox (1) - The Fonz

Not Voting (3) - Darox, kiwieagle, Bogre

Amrun is V/LA until 9/26.

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to select a Kombatant! Deadline is Saturday, October 8th at 10:00 AM EDT.

Day 6's stage is: The Subway!

[The Fonz]

Right, since two of you fuckers have so helpfully pointed it out to the scum already, I might as well claim: I'm Scopion, even-night vig, responsible for the Bunnylover (due to her scummy claim-but-not-fullclaim shenanigans, and the apparent conflict between her 'general' miller and Spring's scumgroup specific one) and T-Bone (since I didn't have a lot of time, I just went for a scummy/VI looking player who looked like they would definitely get wagoned the following day) kills.

[Oversoul]

It was kinda obvious given your play today so...

kill someone good tonight

[zMuffinMan]

Cool. Odd night killer is still a serial killer though, and it's IS.

And if Darox figured it out, it's not like scum didn't know.

Do me a favour and kill Bogre tonight, please. Thank you in advance.

[zMuffinMan]

Oh, and I figured out yesterday you were responsible for the burn kills, I thought you were an even night vig up until you refused to lynch Nero and the fact that odd-night is a serial killer so even/oddnight SKs (possibly aligned) sort of made sense.

[The Fonz]

I looked long and hard at your argument, because when someone generally competent is that convinced it's worth giving serious consideration. But I just don't buy it, and CSL was all-world scummy. She pulled pretty much every scum trick in the book - jumping wagons on town with nothing new late on, pulling AtE, lurking, EVERYTHING.

[zMuffinMan]

Well, to be honest, I think the biggest factor that made CSL town was that she was a counter-wagon to Nero.

CSL (7) - The Fonz, Darox, GreyICE, Toogeloo, Internet Stranger, Bogre, Nero Cain

^ That wagon there has at most 4 town on it.

Yeah, CSL was playing like shit, but still...

[zMuffinMan]

So, do you think Nero is town then?

[The Fonz]

CSL wasn't a counterwagon to Nero. At least on my part, it was a counterwagon to IS. I was delighted to have the choice between 2/3 of my top suspects.

As of now, I suspect Darox more. Your case kinda feels house of cards, but oddly I suspected Nero MORE before you started attacking him. Darox was pretty scummy, but what kept him out of my top tier was that I didn't see him as scum with CSL, who was the scummiest player in the game.

[zMuffinMan]

Your case kinda feels house of cards

How so?

All Nero's done is attack Oversoul, who is most likely town, attack other townies, who have now flipped town, attack me in OMGUS-like fashion and I know I'm town. Sure, maybe he's just a really, really scummy townie whose reads are really, really horrible...... or maybe not.

That said, I personally don't have a problem with chucking Nero in the ring with Darox. High likelihood they're both scum, so.

[GreyICE]

Can you deep six Bogre Fonz?

A) He's lurking like hell.
Bogre 2011-09-17 03:33:59 9 days 9 hours 36

B) He's scum

C) He's scum

D) Oh come on shoot him please apparently this town won't lynch him oh my god.

Vote: Darox

Look I'm helping.

Also he said the following:

The real truth is we don't have any vigs.

The proof?
Kiwieagle, Oversoul, Nachomamma & GreyIce are all still alive.

But never mentioned Bogre.

Thus he dies with Bogre-scum!

And we're all happier.

(FYI I am town).

Vote: Darox

[zMuffinMan]

also what I don't understand is... If Nero is town, why the fuck aren't scum jumping all over him?

Nero v Darox is all cool in my books today as long as IS dies tomorrow.

[The Fonz]

Thing about Bogre... there's nothing you can say about him that isn't also true of kiwieagle.

[Internet Stranger]

Out of curiosity Muffin, what exactly was the reason that Fonz cant be an even night SK? I mean you just took what Fonz said as gospel. Not even a simple question, not a shred of doubt. Nope, just Fonz isnt IS, so it must be true! You swallowed that up like Oversoul. Somehow I want to think that youre smarter than this Muffin, so this tells me that youre playing a game here. Maybe its a hardcore tunnel game thinking thats the only way to get rid of me.

I still heavily suspect you, Muffin, of being the other SK due to your actions and your weak circular arguments. I dont think youre with the scum team, but youre an untrustworthy White Knight nonetheless. White Knights are NEVER to be trusted and all need to ALWAYS be put to death.

But still, why not even ask the question? Why is Fonz a vig and not the SK?

[The Fonz]

Because SKs should never, ever, ever claim vig. It paints a gigantic target on their backs. Not to mention that my kills are consistent with me as vig... I mean, who else suspected BL nearly as much as I did?

[Internet Stranger]

Didnt BL flip town?

[Internet Stranger]

Also, how do we know this isnt some crazy ass WIFOM? You realize that we cant let you live to the endgame, right?

[zMuffinMan]

Thing about Bogre... there's nothing you can say about him that isn't also true of kiwieagle.

Except that kiwi has said some drastically stupid things that don't make sense from the perspective he's scum.

Bogre is just being a scummy lurker.

Out of curiosity Muffin, what exactly was the reason that Fonz cant be an even night SK? I mean you just took what Fonz said as gospel. Not even a simple question, not a shred of doubt. Nope, just Fonz isnt IS, so it must be true! You swallowed that up like Oversoul. Somehow I want to think that youre smarter than this Muffin, so this tells me that youre playing a game here. Maybe its a hardcore tunnel game thinking thats the only way to get rid of me.

He's claimed even-night vig. It's a controllable role, and he's a good scum kill, so it'll resolve itself. It's not about whether or not I believe him, it's about whether or not he's a concern. And, like I've already said, I could potentially see those shots as vig shots, but there is no fucking way an odd-night vig threw shurikens at a claimed watcher who delivered scum to us on D3. Shurikens = serial killer

How do you not realise this?

I still heavily suspect you, Muffin, of being the other SK due to your actions and your weak circular arguments.

What weak circular arguments? If I'm an odd-night SK, surely you have better things to do today than go after me. Or do you think I'm just a regular SK who's missed several kills?

Do you have

any

suspects other than me, or are you just going to say "oh my god, muffin sucks!" all day?

White Knights are NEVER to be trusted and all need to ALWAYS be put to death.

That's an interesting theory. Good luck with that.

[The Fonz]

IS can fucking go die in a fire if he really believes what he says about white knights. When I think someone's town and being attacked based on bullshit, I'll defend them and attack their attackers. It's how you find scum.

[Nero Cain]

In that scenerio?

Amrun
Darox

Would be my top 2. Amrun for her cofrimation bias and Darox for active lurking.

So POE it would leave...

Nachomamma8/kiwieagle/Bogre

probally Nacho and 1 of Borge/Kiwi.

Nero, that wasn't a rolefish by any means.

Explain to me what rolefishing is?

Fonz, I am rather dumb.

QFMFT!!!!!

Pfft, Fonz is an obvious Scorpion.

Head burning?
T-Bone of all people getting killed?

Seriously now.

I think that points more to OS being scorpion.

I didn't really like Timeater's play, but nacho made the slot look better.

Why Nachomamma town read when she voted for you and supported me?

What did Nacho do that was better?

If you flip scum I'm going to start suspecting Nacho until then I have no reason to suspect her.

How do you read, Nacho?

How do I read?
Oversoul is town. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that somewhere.

Muffin, I'm all good with IS dying and all, but if he's an odd-night SK and today's an even day, I think we can better spend our time killing Nero.

This was actually meant for OS [not that she's ever going to answer anything] and not you but I accidently put a comma there.

Still don't get it? What a shame.

But I'm looking at Fonz/Nero/IS remaining as scum, probably. Bogre needs to flake so he can stop being a wildcard, but everyone else is town enough.

Why are you not SK hunting?

[zMuffinMan]

Cool. So you could get behind the Darox wagon, then?