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Post Post #4025 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:47 pm

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Brandi wrote:
GhostWriter wrote:I feel like HotshotGG is a whiny little overrated bitch. Thoughts?

who?

I think I love you for not knowing who he is. Also, could you draw Kog'Maw as shrimp sushi? Looking at Lion Dance Kog'Maw from the top down view looks like shrimp sushi and made me think about it.
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Post Post #4026 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:48 pm

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GhostWriter wrote:I feel like HotshotGG is a whiny little overrated bitch. Thoughts?

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Post Post #4027 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:52 pm

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Brandi wrote:>Newb friendly support

So that's why I have success with her <_<


Well... I think so. At least, I didn't need that much time with her before I played elo with her at about the same level as my main, with who I played from week 2. Ok, that's also because at low elo people didn't play supports and before the nerf it was quite beneficial to run one (and probably still). And yeah, I played pretty much like the above, with the added detail that I hid mostly in the bush to keep that mine and to harrass the opponent with q if that had a use.

When I tried soraka, because I got to the point where singed got banned and sona taken, well in the controls it makes such a difference. Timing of silences becomes important, etc. Just more difficult to play. The only thing you have to do as sona to be better then the majority, is to land your ult at important moments (and it really doesn't matter if that only hits one then. As long as it helps your team out, it's great)
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Post Post #4028 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:59 pm

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Cyberbob wrote:
GhostWriter wrote:I feel like HotshotGG is a whiny little overrated bitch. Thoughts?

he likes to rage sometimes but he is not overrated

He is. His team carries him to his inflated scores. He is good, I'm NOT denying that. But he's not nearly as good as people think. He just likes flashy roles. He knows his shit, so he can play pretty much any champ. But he likes flashy ones that hype him up. And he feels he's good enough to decide a game within 3 minutes and troll for the rest of the game, while playing support, and blame the subsequent bad job of the 1v2 champ on that champ just sucking. Any time he loses or fucks up, it's not his fault, no matter how many mistakes he makes. I seem to remember hearing about him once, on live stream, losing in his lane and then doing research to find a non-existent glitch to explain it. He's over-rated, at the very least, within his own eyes.
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Post Post #4029 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:03 pm

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Support Nunu works so well, I just wish my APM was higher in the game that I first tried it.
He has plenty of poke with his e and his q gives him plenty of sustain.
With a faeri charm, he has enough mana regen to keep W up at all times, so that's cool.
Sitting in bushes waiting for your lane partner to bait them into your ult seems like an awesome idea too.

On a somewhat similar note, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN PLAY WITHOUT A MOUSE.
My APM drops to like -1... ;~;
or something like that....
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Post Post #4030 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:05 pm

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idk what apm is

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Post Post #4031 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:06 pm

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Amrun wrote:idk what apm is

i play without a mouse


Actions per minute?

Sounds like a rather stupid term to use in this game.
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Post Post #4032 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:08 pm

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MrZepher wrote:Support Nunu works so well, I just wish my APM was higher in the game that I first tried it.
He has plenty of poke with his e and his q gives him plenty of sustain.
With a faeri charm, he has enough mana regen to keep W up at all times, so that's cool.
Sitting in bushes waiting for your lane partner to bait them into your ult seems like an awesome idea too.

On a somewhat similar note, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN PLAY WITHOUT A MOUSE.
My APM drops to like -1... ;~;

I learned to play on a touchpad. I did great with it, but adding a mouse made it infinitely easier.
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Post Post #4033 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:17 pm

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MrZepher wrote:Support Nunu works so well, I just wish my APM was higher in the game that I first tried it.
He has plenty of poke with his e and his q gives him plenty of sustain.
With a faeri charm, he has enough mana regen to keep W up at all times, so that's cool.
Sitting in bushes waiting for your lane partner to bait them into your ult seems like an awesome idea too.

On a somewhat similar note, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN PLAY WITHOUT A MOUSE.
My APM drops to like -1... ;~;


APM is useless in LoL as compared to say SC2

the thing about SC2 is that there's a lot to focus on at any one given time - APM is a metric of skill there not because it measures how quickly you can move your fingers, but measures how quickly you can process information and perform the actions that need to be taken at any given time

LoL does not work similarly as all you are personally controlling is your own champ - a minimal amount of APM is required to do that because of the fact that it is just one unit to control (compare splitting marines for banelings, for example, and landing a skill shot - one requires a lot more actions be taken than the other)

the reason why APM cannot be used as a metric for skill in LoL is because the potential APM (aka how quickly one can move one's hands) almost always exceeds the required APM for any given situation (you need to press at most 8 or so keys for any given fight at most and click your mouse, which isn't taxing in the least)

i think you may be confusing APM with reaction time
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Post Post #4034 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:21 pm

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Brandi wrote:>Newb friendly support

So that's why I have success with her <_<


She is labelled as the easiest champ in the game to play.
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Post Post #4035 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:31 pm

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Brandi wrote:@ANK: What is your opinion of a Hextech Gunblade on Kog? By level 18 with bloodrazor/malady/WE/ASbooths I have around 2.4 Attack speed.


Very, very situational. I'd much prefer Frozen Mallet, Frozen Heart, Randuins Omen, or Guardian Angel in 90+% of situations, since there's essentially a 0% chance that anyone outdamages Kog at that point in the game if you are allowed to get all those items. All you truly need is the ability to survive long enough to do that damage and get peels thrown your way.

However, Gunblade is useful in some situations, although I've never considered using it in an actual game yet. Since your build at that point is severely lacking in any sort of defense (except for the +50 from WE), any assassins or melee DPS will have a field day with you if you aren't given a ton of protection. If that's not really an issue, then Gunblade is solid.

Get Hextech Gunblade and Randuins Omen for hilarious results as no assassin in the game (besides Akali/Kassadin) can get anywhere near you.
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Post Post #4036 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:57 pm

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It is wrong to ask for blue as a solo top Sion on blue team?

Like I'd never ask for it over something like Anivia. But say an Annie or a Karthus that have ways of regening mana outside of items. Same question for Galio as the solo top.
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Post Post #4037 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:03 pm

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Annie and Karthus still benefit more from the blue than Sion, in my opinion. Karthus' e saps a lot of mana, and annie only get the mana cost back on her q, she eats *major* mana when she's tryiing to harass and blue makes it essentially amazing for her especially with her already low cooldowns.
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Post Post #4038 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:05 pm

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Espeonage wrote:It is wrong to ask for blue as a solo top Sion on blue team?

Like I'd never ask for it over something like Anivia. But say an Annie or a Karthus

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Post Post #4039 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:09 pm

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Well Karthus should never lose mana on his Q and his E is very unusable even with blue until it gets leveled up high enough which doesn't happen until after laning phase is over.

As for Annie, while her bear may have short cooldown over the span of time of a blue buff I imagine Sion's output would be greater than Annie's. Especially if he has a Sheen.

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Post Post #4040 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:11 pm

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Espeonage wrote:Well Karthus should never lose mana on his Q and his E is very unusable even with blue until it gets leveled up high enough which doesn't happen until after laning phase is over.

As for Annie, while her bear may have short cooldown over the span of time of a blue buff I imagine Sion's output would be greater than Annie's. Especially if he has a Sheen.

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Post Post #4041 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:16 pm

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The point of Blue on Karthus is the ability to spam unrelentlessly and to use E with impunity. I say this because anyone who does this without blue before having significant mana or mana regen is an idiot.

Annie directly benefits from the CDR and she actually has mana problems if she is aggressive in lane. The reason Sion doesn't need it as much is because he doesn't require kills for a lot of his effectiveness; he only needs mana regen for spamming his shield (if AP). It's not even a problem if you focus on sustainability first.
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Post Post #4042 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:43 pm

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Post Post #4043 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:48 pm

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Espeonage wrote:
Brandi wrote:>Newb friendly support

So that's why I have success with her <_<


She is labelled as the easiest champ in the game to play.

I would think yi would be the one with that label =P
Or various others.

I mean she is simple-ish, but hardly the easiest. :B
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Post Post #4044 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:50 pm

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yi is by no means the easiest, he is one of the squishiest champions in the game

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Post Post #4045 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:53 pm

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Eh, he may be squishy, but he can easily get out of a lot of sticky situations. Plus he's annoying as fuck to try to catch up to. >_>
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Post Post #4046 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:54 pm

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Wait, easier than Garen?
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Post Post #4047 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:57 pm

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I've never played Garen; IDK. But I hear he's pretty easy too.
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Post Post #4048 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:58 pm

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But I just meant I would assume Yi to have that label, not that I believe he actually is the easiest. I wouldn't be too sure who; I know Sona is definitely easier to learn than most (I'm still trying to learn Kog'Maw better... and I've played like 20 games with him.) But I highly doubt she's *the* easiest. Sona reminds me of Annie a bit with her passive.
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Post Post #4049 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:03 pm

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