Open 337: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Shinki]

Hi guys
Just saying I'll catch up with the game by this evening after class.

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  pinkfloyd
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  Thomas
  
  
  Isa
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  pinkfloyd
  
  
  Thomas
  - (1)
  Shinki
  
  
  princesskdw
  - (1)
  Collyer
  
  
  Neil1113
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  bv310
  
  
  
  Not Voting:
  
  
  neil1113
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  Isa
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  Fakinha
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  Cav
  
  
  
  Notes
  
  
• With
  9
  alive, it takes
  5
  to lynch
  
• The deadline for Day 1 is Sunday October 9th, 12:00PM UTC

[Fakinha]

Well, hi.
I've read the thread and the only thing that REALLY bugs me is #23. Like... I dont care if its sarcasm or whatever, I'd lynch for that commentary.

I'd like to hear him but it seems he will be replaced... a shame. Or not, who knows...? I'd lynch him anyway. But I'm not giving any votes on anyone for now.

About the Bv x pink x neil thing... idk. I have the impression that Bv is town, but I'll take a good look on it again later.

That resumes my introduction

[Fakinha]

Shinki ya bastard, stole my top of the page ):

[Fakinha]

AND it was post #100. Feels bad.

[Fakinha]

'k, I'm stupid and didn't noticed that Gav replaced mal. My bad.

However... #28 wtf? Oddly enough, it mentioned mal. This is so random that I don't even know what to think about... but feels like lynching pink, yea.

VOTE: Pinkfloyd

I want comments.

[Shinki]

Ok, I'm done reading and... first of all

UNVOTE: Thomas

I'm fine with a neil lynch for today.

VOTE: neil1113

And we gotta keep an eye at pinkfloyd just in case, imo.
That #28 was a bad joke, yes.

[pinkfloyd]

That #28 was a

bad joke

, yes.

HATERS GONNA HATE

[Shinki]

Ahm.. if you say so

[Fakinha]

I'd rather lynch pink and keep both eyes on neil.

[Isa]

Prod dodge before I get the prod. Content later

[Isa]

Why does Neil convince you so much more than Bv?

Because #58 is a fantastic post that I agree with almost to the last letter.
The "textbook scum play" post by Bv helped early on to put him in a negative light, and after said #58, I think it's clear that Neil comes from a town POV. Reading Bv's reply in #87 shows that his case on Neil is 2/4 "I interpret your post in a different way than you did, but what you say about it is reasonable". The only thing bothering me at all is Neil's will to keep the spotlight on those two, but I don't know if he meant that the rest of us should avoid to discuss their debate or not.

Anyway, pinkfloyd, you're just zooming around and post random nonsense, which you've done for almost the entire game. VOTE: pinkfloyd Where's your thoughts? Stop the active lurking.

[neil1113]

Wow, I'm failing at keeping updated, and all day yesterday my internet went out. Stupid Joplin. Ugh.

Real quick update for the question I see most relevant: (with what little time I have I'll try to explain this.)

Why did I specify that I wanted the spotlight on me and BV? Because up until I read through the game again with a clear mind, I was pretty confident BV was scum. Therefore in my mindset when I was posting, I was coming from a point of view of I don't care if I'm lynched for tunneling on you, I'm so confident that you're scum that I'd be willing to come under heat and possibly a lynch if it meant you'd get lynched too. I wanted to "keep the spotlight" on us because I felt pretty confident like one of us was scum, and my win condition is to eliminate them. Unfortunately after re-reading with a cleared mindset, I'm not so sure anymore. And since I haven't had the time to really pressure anyone, including BV, I couldn't accurately say rather or not he is. His last post in particular stands out to me.

Which reminds me, hopefully sometime today I'll be able to full respond to your post BV and whoever it was that was questioning me, I'll respond to you as well. Sorry for the delay. Oh and I'm pretty sure there's opportunistic scum somewhere between the two new replacees.

[Shinki]

Wow, I'm failing at keeping updated, and all day yesterday my internet went out. Stupid Joplin. Ugh.

Real quick update for the question I see most relevant: (with what little time I have I'll try to explain this.)

Why did I specify that I wanted the spotlight on me and BV? Because up until I read through the game again with a clear mind, I was pretty confident BV was scum. Therefore in my mindset when I was posting, I was coming from a point of view of I don't care if I'm lynched for tunneling on you, I'm so confident that you're scum that I'd be willing to come under heat and possibly a lynch if it meant you'd get lynched too.

I wanted to "keep the spotlight" on us because I felt pretty confident like one of us was scum

, and my win condition is to eliminate them. Unfortunately after re-reading with a cleared mindset, I'm not so sure anymore. And since I haven't had the time to really pressure anyone, including BV, I couldn't accurately say rather or not he is. His last post in particular stands out to me.

Which reminds me, hopefully sometime today I'll be able to full respond to your post BV and whoever it was that was questioning me, I'll respond to you as well. Sorry for the delay. Oh and I'm pretty sure there's opportunistic scum somewhere between the two new replacees.

Now, that sounds weird. "One of us was scum"? Really?
That's not opportunism by any means, it's the obvious thing to do.

[Fakinha]

I see your point, Neil. I just see no point on your point.
And...

Oh and I'm pretty sure there's opportunistic scum somewhere between the two new replacees.

Rly? Why's that? I can guarantee you that at least I'm not scummy. And I see no reason to say that one of the replacees is scum, that's fishy.

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Shinki, afterall, why are you voting Neil? You gave us no explanation.

[Shinki]

Apparently when you vote for someone without a walltext, you're just opportunist.
I don't know if that's a scumtell, but it really doesn't work.

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Because he's scum, that's not a good reason?

[pinkfloyd]

Well, I'm not lurking there just isn't much to comment on

[Isa]

Shinki, please explain your vote in that case. Neil is far and away my biggest town read at the moment and there's no way that I'm going to push for his lynch today if you don't supply very convincing reasoning.

...pinkfloyd, really? You have no thoughts at all about Neil, who seems to be the focus of the entire game so far?

[Shinki]

Shinki, please explain your vote in that case. Neil is far and away my biggest town read at the moment and there's no way that I'm going to push for his lynch today if you don't supply very convincing reasoning.

...pinkfloyd, really? You have no thoughts at all about Neil, who seems to be the focus of the entire game so far?

I was about to ask why he's your biggest town read atm, when I saw #110 in your ISO ( Actually, I didn't read all the wall texts before, just some parts. ) and at #58 he has some good points about bv, indeed.

UNVOTE: Neil1113

I'll do a re-read with wall texts included this time.. if lazyness allow me to. But I will really try.

[Collyer]

Post 111 is very strange indeed. Isn't it a bit reckless to tunnel on someone and be willing to get lynched as long as they are lynched, just because you are confident of their scumminess (especially considering that you began arguing with bv in post 43)? I don't understand how that helps the town at all, because you have very little evidence, and are willing to jeopardize today's lynch because you've became so confident of some one's scumminess on the second page. You also admit that having reread with a clear mindset, you're less sure? It sounds like backtracking to me. That's not to say that you can't change your mind, but you've changed it very quickly, and at a time when Isa has been questioned about a possible connection between you two, and you're wish for the discussion to remain between you and bv has also been mentioned (which doesn't make sense since you could still tunnel him with other players discussing it to). Neither of these look particularly town like.

Well, I'm not lurking there just isn't much to comment on

This is ridiculous. As for Fakinha and Shinki, I wouldn't go as far as saying that one is oppurtunistic scum (at this very erly stage, yet again Neil), but I certainly think there is something fishy about them. RVS votes are not helping anyone at this stage, and voting without any reasons isn't too helpful either.

[pinkfloyd]

...pinkfloyd, really? You have no thoughts at all about Neil, who seems to be the focus of the entire game so far?

I already posted about that. How about instead of calling me a lurker you read my posts.

Gabbady goof.

[Cav]

Why does Neil convince you so much more than Bv?

Because #58 is a fantastic post that I agree with almost to the last letter.
The "textbook scum play" post by Bv helped early on to put him in a negative light, and after said #58, I think it's clear that Neil comes from a town POV. Reading Bv's reply in #87 shows that his case on Neil is 2/4 "I interpret your post in a different way than you did, but what you say about it is reasonable". The only thing bothering me at all is Neil's will to keep the spotlight on those two, but I don't know if he meant that the rest of us should avoid to discuss their debate or not.

Anyway, pinkfloyd, you're just zooming around and post random nonsense, which you've done for almost the entire game. VOTE: pinkfloyd Where's your thoughts? Stop the active lurking.

Thanks for explaining; I don't feel as strongly about post #58 as you, but I see where you're coming from now. I think post #111 explains Neils spotlighting to a degree, though I disagree completely with his choice of tactics. Still not totally sure about him or Bv.

Both putting pressure on each other and they have both responded well.... wouldn't be surprised if they were both town.

Pink, this is all you've said about Neil (and Coll). You've said almost nothing about him for pages. Why are you surprised when people ask you for analysis. As a comeback to an accusation of lurking, your last post's a bit weak.

[Isa]

Noted that pinkfloyd thinks we have almost 50 posts of just fluff.

Everyone, why aren't you voting Pinkfloyd?

[Fakinha]

Just like Isa said.

[SigmaEXE003]

Prodding bv310.

[Thomas]

I already posted about that. How about instead of calling me a lurker you read my posts.

Gabbady goof.

Active Lurking.

I don't have much time to write anything else at this time but I should have more time in around 15 hours.