SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

[chkflip]

Because people aren't being pro-town and solidifying onto one fucking wagon. They'd prefer to have five wagons with single votes on them.

Scrubs acting like nubs.

[Kcdaspot]

truth^

I think they all are just trying to be hipsters.

"I was voting him... before when voting him was cool."

"I'd join the Projectmatt wagon but it's too mainstream."

hey wait this is fun... i'm gonna do this next game.

[warriormode]

I know what your saying kcda... I think your over thinking what his role might be a little too much.

The main thing I'm saying is that there are two keys to his story that makes it obvious he's lying about his role.

Town wouldn't make a lie like this or ever lie really. Therefore Vifam is scum.

I'm not doing anything special to figure this out.
I'm just reading the thread
I found a statement in Vifam's story that is impossible to be true.
Ex. he claims that Ran visited him last night, which is impossible. He can't be told that, Ran wasn't here last night.

He also says that people visiting him with passive roles will die. Impossible. (clearly made this up)
Then makes a excuse saying he misread his role and attempts to clarify what he "meant".
Town don't have to make up their role. Just read their stupid role.

Just reread today and think to yourself: how can Vifam's story possibly be true?
I believe everyone can figure this out. And if you do, you get why we have an easy scum lynch today and we can move on.

[Kcdaspot]

but there is only the part of provability that still exists.

from the outside you have X and Y, Y said X will die tonight cuz he Y was visited by X.

X says it isn't true and calls Y scum.

The key here is the claim of X dying tonight. It's provable. i'm forced to ask why would scum put themselves in that position? it's akin to claiming vig as scum. It's only good for a temporary fix. now as it stands he hasn't back off the claim even after questioning by multiple people. belief in his PR goes up, and so does the consequence of lying. why would scum make such a useless gambit? the second something goes wrong it simply a countdown to lynch.

I have no choice but see what happens. It does nothing but provide good info sit and wait in this scenario.

[Kcdaspot]

townwarrior may see the obv lie but it's not that obv in 3rd person.

My thing? why are you so worried about this? it's been the main focus of this whole thing. you know if you flip town vifam come under heavy scrutiny right? so why so aggro NOW? if he botched his claim it will be VERY easy to see and lynch. think about the scenarios that happen if we see what happens. three possiblities: A. You don't die, vifam get caught, under heavy scrutiny/lynched. B. you flip town, vifam gets caught, under heavy scrutiny/lynched. C. you flip scum, vifam goes free and everything goes on.

C gets crossed out in your mind so look at what that leaves us.

both times he gets heavy pressure and we'll be able to see if he is scum or not. most likely he'll be lynched.

all and all this situation does nothing but BENEFIT YOU AS TOWN. all you have to do is sit back and enjoy vifam's getting caught. but no, you're getting all antsy over his lynch.

why?

can someone else look at this post and give a analysis? other than vifam or warrior.

[warriormode]

Simple, we can lynch scum today rather than risk mislynching. That's the way I see it.

Your right though, it should work out either way.

I have more to post. hold on.

[warriormode]

but there is only the part of provability that still exists.

from the outside you have X and Y, Y said X will die tonight cuz he Y was visited by

Z

.

X says it isn't true and calls Y scum.

The key here is the claim of X dying tonight. It's provable. i'm forced to ask why would scum put themselves in that position? it's akin to claiming vig as scum. It's only good for a temporary fix. now as it stands he hasn't back off the claim even after questioning by multiple people. belief in his PR goes up, and so does the consequence of lying. why would scum make such a useless gambit? the second something goes wrong it simply a countdown to lynch.

I have no choice but see what happens. It does nothing but provide good info sit and wait in this scenario.

See the bolded z? thats the problem. z being ranmaru.

[manho]

@WARRIOR, STFU OR DIE. WE ARE NOT LYNCHING VIFAM TODAY.

[projectmatt]

I'd like everyone to see chikflip clinging to an illogical fallacy and creating false hopes and then proceeding to ignore any contradiction or false statement he made when called out. Cool.

Sorry, I have a tendency to ignore scum-reads. Post numbers?

This is also a lie

since you responded to one of my issues and then when I pointed out how they were false you ignored them. It's also an even bigger lie because you clearly saw this post by me and responded to it. :< Let me show you the posts.

Give me an example of one bit of information it will give you, please.

Nah, right now I think you're bullshitting scum unless you can give me ONE bit of information it would give you for me to flip town, and how the hell you think flip-flopping is a scum tell. And "voting history" is just bad.

Come on, CK. You've responded to almost every post of mine aside from the ones that are contradictions, and even if you're ignoring me people have responded to me and people have voted you while quoting me and there's no way you "missed" it.

I think it's hilarious that I'm still ignored by almost everybody voting me no matter how many times I ask for reasoning. It's not even en-raging anymore, it's just depressing.

[chkflip]

zOMG YOU CAUGHT ME IN UBER IMPORTANT LIE

lolgtfo

[projectmatt]

Get over the arrogance and read the actual post.

[WeyounsLastClone]

It's all nice and well complaining that people are 'single' voting, but the only other with more than one vote is Vifam, and I don't get the feeling people want to go for that today. Must admit kcda makes quite some sense about that, but it still doesn't sit well to me that we have two contradictory claims. As long as we don't get into the discussion tomorrow 'but this and this could've happened, so we're still not lynching Vifam' (still believe Vifam is the scum of the two, but kcda's point of why scum would do that makes me doubt a bit). Also, Vifam just voting PM to get to day 4 should set of some alarms.

[DemonHybrid]

So is this warriormode vs vifam business over?

[Bunnylover]

Finally got a day off tomorrow.
Hopefully when I read the stuff I skimmed/missed, I will get something in context.

[Kcdaspot]

In all honesty i don't think anyone is holding their breath BL.

hey WLC: vote projectmatt.

[projectmatt]

KDCA what do you think about Chik?

[Kcdaspot]

oh and going off of my 1504 it's probable that warrior is scum for the reaction from vifam.

PEDIT: meeeeeh nullish town. note to self to read him more thoroughly later.

[projectmatt]

Can you read the recent contradictions I pointed out, please?

[Kcdaspot]

Can you read the recent contradictions I pointed out, please?

what contrdiction?

even after isoing you I see nothing wrong about chks posting.

hell you may of just mentioned him like what once or twice?

naahhh

i wanna see you flip before anything now.

[Kcdaspot]

reread chk. yeah hes town.

[Kcdaspot]

Geez Sorry.

I'm just ecstatic that i caught scum.

Calm down.

i'm not gonna post the same quote hundreds of times. Nor am i going to be a complete dick. i AM going to be a dick but not a COMPLETE dick.

cool?

Xeras has it right.

I feel like you are too excited to catch me as scum because of previous games in the past

that you are refusing to look out of your shell and actually see any of my tells or use solid logic.

... oh hello.

[TheJakalope]

And that's that.

Who isn't voting ProjectMatt? Do it. Do it now.

[implosion]

Test yesterday, giant physics packet today, test tomorrow, test friday... ugh. this would be a lot easier if this went to night x.x

[manho]

i still think projectmatt is town.

[Kcdaspot]

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I feel like you are too excited to catch me as scum

because of previous games in the past

... oh hello.

i still think projectmatt is town.

see the scumclaim?