Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[Ranmaru]

Also keep in mind questions like "Why didn't FA track/cop first"

the answers to those questions would be "He didn't have those abilities at all".

I just couldn't answer fully to Farside's question about that, because I'd be giving too much... but I was talking to scum at night. ;-;

I don't think my list was self serving either. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough as to why I had those people on my vig list, but of course I would list people that seem scummy and not really... useful.

I guess it was also vibes.

[Blonde Doctor]

Oh man...large games...

I want to apologize to my scum team for not playing up to par. I thought I could ride Spyrex's "naivete" town read on me, but eventually I got lost in the speed of the game and lacked a lot of my own original input. This has always been my problem and probably always will be.

I want to thank Scott for allowing me the opportunity to replace into the game.

Also, I wanted to say this about Glowball's counterclaim. I actually think it helped the scum team with claims in the end because then people were questioning the legitimacy of safe claims for scum. There was a lot of talk about "we can prooobably assume they don't have safe claims based off of Umbrage's deal" etc. Not realizing that it was unnecessary also kind of adds to the fact that I think she was probably doing it for sake of credit because she already ~knew~ Umbrage was scum, but wanted to pull someone awesomely, fantastic stunt that would allow her to bask in the glory of being "right."

It's unfortunate that anyone would cheat like that. I hope that she realizes that she doesn't have anything to be proud of in this game. It was most definitely a dishonorable loss for her.
And for someone who freaks out about people who are "rude" to her, she sure does talk up a pretty rude storm herself...

BUT.

Town played magnificently, and had I not had a different wincon, I would've loved to see their hard work pay off (I was almost secretly rooting for them in the end there). The credit for scum win definitely goes to PJ and jmurph.

[diddin]

Damn. Sorry I screwed up guys.

[glowball]

Whoa, now I am a cheater?

FUCK THAT.

If you know anything about chkflip you'd know he and I are not the best of friends and I am NOT surprised he'd lie on me like that. Hell, I'm pregnant and he's still being a dick to me. I really think that is uncalled for Scott for not even checking with me. I never cheated in anyway, and I don't appreciate the shots at my integrity. Thanks though.

[Scott Brosius]

He certainly didn't put the idea in my head, I was suspicious about it from the start.

Perhaps I should have checked with you first but what would have happened? You deny, same result.

[SodaSpirit17]

oh yea, major props to scott for letting me in with no on-site experience.

[jmurph3]

Wow, I'm not even going to get into the whole he said/she said thing. If glowball cheated, well, at least it didn't affect the game outcome.

Good game, all. And a huge thanks to Scott for modding!! I know it can't have been any easier for you than it was for us. This was my first large theme game, and I have to say that it's not my favorite, haha (no reflection on this game, just on the whole large game in general). I think it'd be easier to be killed early rather than slogging through.

[Ranmaru]

He certainly didn't put the idea in my head, I was suspicious about it from the start.

Perhaps I should have checked with you first but what would have happened? You deny, same result.

Yeah, you should have.

I don't believe Glowball is the type to cheat. And, I KNOW she is a good player, so I don't believe she would need to stoop that low.

She didn't cheat.

[farside22]

Sorry to NtW for my paranoia. You were so quiet and never explain your reads I thought you were scum faking.
Congrats to PJ. MVP for the mafia.

[SpyreX]

Ok, here's question #1:

n3
Aliens
Rainbowdash claws mikehart (actually claws)
farside claws Blonde Doctor
Nanook claws Blonde Doctor

TheJakalope hides behind bobsnox
bobsnox kills Oversoul
kunkstar kills TheJakalope
BlondeDoctor watches Rainbowdash (nobody visits)

Why did the strongman kill work on a hider? (I'm assuming thats a strongman kill there)

[SpyreX]

Actually I'd REALLY like to see the full role PM's if thats possible.

[Juls]

OH yeah, I think PJ definitely deserves his scummy for Best Replacement!

[July]

As part of flavour analysis I realized my playstyle clashed a lot with quite a few people so I was pretty quiet unless I was pretty angry...sigh, sorry about that.

Even though we got burned in the end it was actually really fun to have the mason talk with you jmurph, and MAJOR props for being able to hold down a scum qt and mason qts with town at the same time, that takes some skill. SodaSpirit you played pretty well too, I did end up feeling bad about the vig shot on you but hopefully you had fun in the time you did get to play. I also really enjoyed watching Spyrex and Juls play, it just seemed really honest and straightforward and I definitely liked that. Err..one thing I never understood was why everyone freaked out about the trivia awards and people who weren't "desjgnated" guessing for it...the trivia games seemed fun and if I had gotten the chance to participate in one (as in I was online when it was posted), I would have tried for it as well.

PJ....sorry I went off on you a couple times, I'm generally not that bitchy of a player but something about your playstyle just irked me to no end. It worked for you though so kudos on the win, and it was hard to argue with someone who was much more composed and detail oriented than myself.

Glow it was good to play with you again.

Ran thank you for hydraing with me again <3

Oh and I loved the alien roles, I thought that was super clever, and Scott thank you for the awesome flavor.

[SpyreX]

Trying to control the prizes was twofold (and my initial list of town had 1 scum in it which is, honestly, pretty good):

You're giving the rewards to players that are far more town than most - which should be putting powers in strong town hands. Additionally, you're forcing scum to either let it happen or risk swift death or just out themselves to stop the above.

Of course, the second PV didn't get stomped for it (and a miller doing that stunt I swear) it was off the rails.

[SodaSpirit17]

lol thanks July! it's no biggie really.

[SodaSpirit17]

Also, I have absolutely no clue why DeathNote was even lynched...

[farside22]

Also, I have absolutely no clue why DeathNote was even lynched...

He lied about his claim the first time and who he watched made no freekin sense.

I'm chalking this up to town that made bad choices and how scum win.

[diddin]

Day 2 and Day 3 were absolute messes for Town. We lynch correctly on one of those days, we win.

I thought I played a good game despite screwing it up in the end, I was for once town before I had to claim Mason. Apologies to anyone who was offended by my asshole behavior, being ConfTown does that to me.

[Ranmaru]

Day 2 and Day 3 were absolute messes for Town. We lynch correctly on one of those days, we win.

I thought I played a good game despite screwing it up in the end, I was for once town before I had to claim Mason. Apologies to anyone who was offended by my asshole behavior, being ConfTown does that to me.

It's ok. I'm not taking a grudge or nothing. I'll just not try to hide info like that.

If there were any other things about my play you guys thought was bad, please tell me cuz I have no clue.

[diddin]

FA, you played well. The simplest solution was just that you were scum.

[farside22]

I made some bad choices. Finding BD scum was not one of them. Not listening to Rainbow about PJ was bad.

I think playing with Rainbow was fun. It was nice to bounce thoughts on someone once Snake flaked on me and she was obvious town.
I think me and her talking helped us focus and see things better.

[Ranmaru]

FA, you played well. The simplest solution was just that you were scum.

Thanks. Yeah, I could understand how everyone felt. You should have seen my face when Buzz flipped a JOAT. OMFG.

I thought he would be a diff role. ;-;

[petroleumjelly]

Mafia QT

A bit miffed that our N1 kill on bobsnox apparently

was

blocked by a blanket 1-Shot Bulletproof. I had at least hoped the Jailkeeper was actually the explanation; guess not.

[chkflip]

So... hey. Three of you should get /in to my Large Normal. It'll be epicsauce and won't come to fruition if you don't. So do it.

Please.

Say it one more time: gg team, gg Scott Bro.

[SpyreX]

Still would love to see the full PM's FYI