Mini 1259: RPG Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Timeater]

SHADOW SUP'

[Shadow Dancer]

You people

Are really pissing me off

Why don't you know how to use skill points

Why don't you know how to pick classes

Why the fuck did you massclaim. THERE ARE NO BREAKABLE STRATEGIES MANG, AND SCUM CAN EASILY LIE. Oh, but apparently OS didn't know that, or fate for that matter.

I don't give a fuck at this point, I'm lynching Fate. If Fate were a high town read, I would still put this vote down, because he needs to die. He is claiming a useless USELESS role and hiding behind "I'M BEING SILLYZ GUYZ AHAHAHHAHA OH AND LET ME JUST GET RID OF MY VOTE SO THAT I DONT HAVE TO COMMITT LOLOLOL"

vote fate

Well well, here's our last scum... Not that it wasn't pretty obvious from the get-go...

Unvote

. Hammering this guy as soon as I am finished reading...

[Junpei]

Oh, Mist, you should class claim at the very least. From your point of view, if 1 scum (or 2) is left in the remaining pool of unclaimed players, then there is even less place for you to hide your role. You are only hurting town.

pedit: Shadow, you will not hammer until I finish my full response to Mists' case, which will be done relatively soon, you also will be posting much more analysis than "he's scum".

[Oversoul]

Junpei, please address that part of your post. You are against Mist claiming fully, for the very fact that she is claiming build? Do you not see how illogical that is given what has happened, and what will likely happen (timeater's most recent posts)?

Junpei, you need 2 votes to be hammered so you got time.

[Shadow Dancer]

I picked it so that scum couldn't, you fucking morons, it was my FIRST choice by the way.I saved.. peregrine last night? Let me go check, I saved one of the two people with a BRAIN from day 1.

Lolwhat? Which brain did Per have? Definitely not his own... Or he just wasn't using it... What do I know...

[Mist Beauty]

Okay, people have claimed builds. But at first you were asking for character names. I'm still not going to do it though...

its obv that I have one point in life drain. how many more? what other skills? I can't be NKed, so I'll fill in the info while the scum are confused. Stop whining about claiming (like you've been doing since kiwi claimed bard day 1) and actually scumhunt! While some of the comments like why would OS want lvl 2 pickpocket can be

slightly

useful, stop leaning primarily on flavor for your reads. Do you actually have any reads?

[Timeater]

Are you seriously lecturing me about scumhunting?

I want to bash your brains in.

[Shadow Dancer]

LOL I bet the scums listed the same exact list for all 3 best classes so they would be guaranteed those roles.

If they did my 90 combined IQ points theory was actually a compliment

[Timeater]

Shadow quit posting useless shit and claim already

[Mist Beauty]

>chump wants skill build
>calls me a douchbag
>tells me he's going to bash my brains in

Not going to happen.

[Timeater]

>using an emotional response as a valid excuse not to participate in a townie activity

[Junpei]

Okay, I'm too busy to, so timeater go explain to me how specifically scum might use the anonymity of Mists' skill points to their malicious advantage, assuming Mist is scum?

[Timeater]

I believe that burden falls to Mist.

The thing is

when MORE THAN HALF OF OUR PLAYERS HAVE ALREADY FULLCLAIMED

UMM

ITS TIME TO PARTICIPATE AND FULLCLAIM YOURSELF

TOWNIE 101

[Shadow Dancer]

I DONT KNOW WHAT ROLES SCUM HAS, AND I'LL THEORYCRAFT LATER. OH WAIT NO I WONT BECAUSE THIS GAME IS AWFUL, YOU CAN GO THEORYCRAFT WHY HE WOULD.RB THE DOCTOR. I guess you're scum with Fate?

MR. "FATE FUCKS UP THIS GAME FOR ME" IS BEHAVING LIKE FATE NOW. CONGRATULATIONS. WITH THIS ATTITUDE ONE SHOULD AT LEAST ASSUME YOU HAVE THE REQUIRED SENSE FOR IRONY TO DO SO... OH, YOU HAVEN'T?!?! TOO BAD!

[Timeater]

oh nevermind, misread. one sec

[Shadow Dancer]

My logic is flawless, what are you spouting? Either refute it formally using real arguments outside of axioms which you alone hold, or forever hold your peace.

Flawless? I don't even care, it's a pain to read either way and does not make you any less scummy!

[Junpei]

defence of pinkypie

#43, 45, 181,

attack on fate

77, 80, 82, 109, many more putting him down, not too direct, 306, 322, 455, 463, 549

attack flinter

84, 181, other stuff inbetween, your iso is boring to read, 549

saying that fate and pinkiepie are together

#41, especially #396

#519, where you call kiwi/fate/hindu, "3) Pinkie Pie isn't taking the game seriously at all"

potentially frustrated scum

#539 "if pinkie flips scum, hindu/fate need looking at"

this part is very interesting: "Overall, that hammer was bad, mastin, but lets wait to see what happens."

would scum necessarily say this, knowing the scum partner flip was guaranteed? or just scum wifom.

you spend the rest of your time getting mastin's reads.

#725 junpei rages, insults many players for poor choices, but says something useful. Why the massclaim? There are no breakable strategies.

I don't feel like quickhammering junpei anymore. But you haven't explained your defense of pinkypie and putting him with fate yet. I'd say that you being loud while other townies rallied around the scumlynch hurt us somewhat as well. This is the main thing you need to explain. Talking about why you like peregrineV for his class/maturity while insulting every player and using capslock rage doesn't help you in any way.

Defense of PinkiePie Accusations

Post 43: My issue with this is that Fate said that he wanted PinkiePie dead now, and he said it with such conviction. His earlier reasoning was the dayvig, but when that turned out fake, I didn't understand the zeal with which he wanted PinkiePie ddead.

Post 45: I do not believe in meta as a valid tool to spearhead a lynch, I believe that good players don't get caught by meta and as such I find it highly unreliable. Especially considering we're talking about a hydra...

Post 181: The only thing in this post even remotely related to Pinkie is when I basically restate my stance on wanting Fate lynched, not Pinkie in a single sentence.

Attack on Fate Accusations

Post 77: I was upset as Fate was denying to explain any read at all, rather he was content just to say "X is town, Y is scum, lynch go easy game". He does not receive special treatment, and will be evaluated as such.

Post 80: I pointed out a contradiction, and then explained why he should explain his town read. Not really attacking him here.

Post 82: How is this attacking him? I noted the personal attacks as he called me stupid (AND OBVIOUS TOWN, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT FATE?).

Post 109: I really don't see how this is attacking either... I just explained my scum read on Fate and voted him. No way this was meant to hurt his feelings, and no way that it did.

Post 306: I expressed a little discomfort with the atmosphere of the game as it currently was, but nothing too harsh. Also was trying to explain why asking questions was a good thing, not a bad thing.

Post 322: I was upset with the ultimate spam that Fate was pushing through the thread. I don't like it at all, and no one does I'm sure. It's even worse when not everyone has even posted in the game yet!

Post 455: Fate was making a conditional: "If you vote X, then I will do whatever thing it is you wish me to do tomorrow", which is not a town conditional at all, needless to say, there was no attacking, only scumhunting in this post.

Post 463: I am forced to once again explain why it was GOOD to ask questions rather than just letting Fate do whatever he wants without pause.

Post 549: Just said essentially "I think fate is scummy"... not sure the issue here at all...

Attack on Flinter Accusations

Post 84: Scumhunting 101... I was pointing out the flaws in someones' case.

Post 181: Flinter made a bad post, and didn't at all comment on what was going on, I pointed both things out.

Post 549: Same post as before, I literally just said that I had a scum read on Flinter, nothing more in this post.

Saying that Fate and PinkiePie are Together

What is the issue here? I just pointed out connections that I saw... I really am confused as to the scum-theory you are putting up here.

Potentially Frustrated Scum

Really unsure of your reason for mentioning that post either.. I was just saying that if Pinkie flipped scum, Hindu/Fate need looking at, I think it is clear why, because I thought that they could be scum buddies. What's the problem...

The rest of your post really doesn't seem to incriminate me at all, or say anything of usefulness, so I'll stop here. Timeater, you don't get it do you? If you want Mist to claim her skills, give a good reason for it. Prove that scum not giving their skills in that position could harm town in the specific case of her role. If you can prove that, then I will advocate for her revealing her skills.

pedit: Shadow just said "I don't care if what you're saying is right, you're scum so shaddup!!!!!", which will look very bad when I flip town, so everyone remember this and force him to comment on it.

[Mist Beauty]

Nope.

I'm the Nielwarren. I have one point invested in drain, given that Fate and I agree that he's been drained. If I have more, you'll find out when I find out something useful. If I have more points, there is really no reason to disclose the information until I gain information to clear some townies or confirm scum. If I have bone tongue, I'll give the information and the information regarding how much information I get when I get it if it helps town.

Stop freaking out and actually scumhunt. You've done nothing today besides getting roles.

pedit: going to go out, I'll answer this later.

[Oversoul]

Timeater, this is what happens when an unstoppable force (you) meets an immovable object (Mist). Think it is best to move on and let everyone else build+character claim.

Shadow, what are you? Claim now.

[Fate]

WE HAVE CONFIRMED FUCKING JUNPEI SCUM YES FULLCLAIMS OF BUILDS AND EVERYTHING IS IRREVELANT

I TOO AM REFUSING TO FULLCLAIM MY SKILLS

GOT A PROBLEM?

[Timeater]

Okay, I'm too busy to, so timeater go explain to me how specifically scum might use the anonymity of Mists' skill points to their malicious advantage, assuming Mist is scum?

Alright. So. Assuming Mist is scum, and she has left it entirely ambiguous because SHE IS SO CLEVER.

She has at LEAST 1 rank of life drain. This much we know. Or this much we KINDA know. Lets take a look at Nielwarren's skills:

Bone Tongue
Level One: You study the bones of the dead, gaining insight into how they were killed (1x).
Level Two: You study the bones of the dead, gaining insight into how they were killed (2x).
Level Three: You study the bones of the dead, gaining insight into how they were killed (∞).

Death Absorption (active; night activated; one-shot)
Level One: Slipping amongst the carts carrying the latest dead bodies, you can spend one skill point to gain one of the abilities of a target dead player.
Level Two: Slipping amongst the carts carrying the latest dead bodies, you can spend two skill points to gain two abilities from up to two dead players.
Level Three: Slipping amongst the carts carrying the latest dead bodies, you can spend three skill points to gain the abilities of up to three dead players.

*Special Note: Skill shots that have already been used up cannot be absorbed.

Life Drain (infliction; night activated; unlimited)
Level One: You suck the life out of a target player, funnelling any passive boosts they have to you instead for one day and night cycle.
Level Two: You suck the life out of two target players, funnelling any passive boosts they have to you instead for one day and night cycle.
Level Three: You suck the life out of three target players, funnelling any passive boosts they have to you instead for one day and night cycle.

1. Bone Tongue has no use for a scummer. Its purely a townie skill. Pretty much.

As far as we know, nobody else was drained (though maybe oversoul was? OS?). By not claiming her abilities like everyone else, she becomes free to claim bone tongue down the line. If it is revealed she does NOT have bone tongue, thats a serious strike against her. She wouldnt want to confirm no bone tongue at this stage in the game. Note she already gave a precursory warning that "Abdiel chose the skills not me!". If I was Nielwarren scum, I'd logically build 0-2-1 or 0-1-2 probably the former as it cannot be confirmed as easily as the latter. Bone tongue's use cannot be confirmed by anyone but the Nielwarren. If you wanted to bus, all you'd have to do is claim a bone tongue build.

In all honesty bone tongue is pretty much the strongest skill in the game. FOR TOWN. NK victim? No prob, just look into it and find out who killed him through the flavor revealed. Whats that? He died through a mysterious musical melody that raped his soul into oblivion? The bard did it. Scum caught. This is why massclaims rape this game.

She's holding off so she doesn't have to be accountable later down the line because she has no excuse for getting multiple ranks of death absorption.

She's playing it down because she knows that if she doesn't come up with some good results tomorrow she's boned.

[Junpei]

Wait, you think that Bone Tongue will actually tell us which ROLE is the killer?

mod, can you confirm this?

If the mod confirms, then Mist needs to full claim so that doctor can get on her (preferably we keep me alive and I can do it)

[Timeater]

sorry i broke ur game AV

still love me?

[Junpei]

Wait... but in an earlier post you say that Red Wizard was your top choice.. but now you seem to have revealed that Neighcha (whatever it is called) is the best town role, why not preference that?

[Shadow Dancer]

[...]you also will be posting much more analysis than "he's scum".

This supposed to demonstrate your magic mushroom foreboding powers? Because it better be not an attempt in commanding me around.