Outwitted - Mini 1254 (Game Over)

[Fate]

Fate and LLD both had pretty excellent reads.
I was indeed terrified LLD would vig me and roleblocked her on 55 N2.

NO
FUCKING

SHIT

That was more solid than ANYTHIG else

LLD had two town n her sights so FATE roleblocked her for WIFOM?

Jesus hell

[Darox]

This game was a disgrace.

Obvious scum were obvious.

Obvious town trackers were obvious.

[Darox]

Vanilla Townie Side Game!

Darox beats SpyreX, 27-22

Perfect game!
10 Yos 9 Andrius 8 Seraphim

[Llamarble]

[quote=Darox]Well that was stupid.

Stand by what I said day 1 or 2 or whenever.

Lynching Furcolow is always protown, no matter what role he has.[/quote]

De Ja Vu

[Llamarble]

Well that was stupid.

Stand by what I said day 1 or 2 or whenever.

Lynching Furcolow is always protown, no matter what role he has.

De Ja Vu

[SpyreX]

I thought your play midway through the game was excellent, pretending not to be the bulletproof, and hoping to either draw a fakeclaim or a nightkill. I guess SpyreX was paranoid about losing to you.

It wasn't that. I'll lose to Fate anytime and only give him a good natured ribbing.

It wasn't even the serendipity of the start because up until Sera apparently stumbled onto the fact there was something TRULY FASCINATING AND STUPID that happened D1 considering the Tracker PM's WERE IDENTICAL YET SOMEHOW NANNERS that made it all fall apart.

Its my bad and I feel like an ass but god in heaven.

Fate, Sera, can you forgive?

At least and this is meta I'll damn use, that stupid red text is now a killable offense. That's nice.

[zoraster]

red text, spyrex?

[Llamarble]

Grey actually thought his red text was true when he wrote it.
He didn't intend for it to be a lie; he worded it creatively.

[zoraster]

i thought it was the truth. He really WAS a BP.

[Darox]

Vanilla Townie Side Game!

Darox beats SpyreX, 27-22

Perfect game!
10 Yos 9 Andrius 8 Seraphim

Oh wait Spyrex actually cheated and got in a night action on N4.

I declare super-victory because I would have played 7 on Fate.

[zoraster]

as i explained in my QT I actually had a setup that was this only two town BPs and only one VT instead of the other way around.

[SpyreX]

Hey I played my 3 like a good VT or something.

I'm really glad you were town Darox and I didn't go full retard.

As for the red text blah blah:

You are not bulletproof

BOOM DONE SHOOP SHOOP

Killable.

[zoraster]

yeah, darox. I would have let you select if spyrex's pick would have put him over your total.

that said, SpyreX's play was better for town as a whole. Playing a 3 was a more protown action.

[Llamarble]

Was there a dead QT?

[zoraster]

yeah sorry http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/DrViX4ztLkVB

[zoraster]

you can see me second guess the scum, which obviously shows how much I know

[SpyreX]

I didn't see it in the dead chat and I NEED to know deep in my heart before this dark chapter can lay to rest:

What in the HELL happened as exact as possible to cause tracker-gate?

[zoraster]

I'll copy what I sent to Vi:

Okay, so you remember how I had two trackers. Day 1 and virtually everyone is claiming. Yos claims first, Lurc eventually CC's and says:

On the other hand, if I track a town power role who's doing something and spend any points at all, then I see what they're doing.

I actually had that clarified with Zoraster during night 0 and was told I have to outbid town power roles to track them. His lying about this made me realize he was scum that was why i kept my vote on him.

I wanted to go ahead and counter claim once I noticed people were going for a massclaim. I don't want any other possible town PR's to out themselves when there is no need.

I attempted to track Darox night 0 but failed to track him or he didn't go anywhere this does not make him town or scum it makes him vt or someone I didn't outbid be it town or scum.

The thing is... I don't THINK I said this. I can see where he got confused, but i didn't say it. In fact, his tracker works exactly like Yos'. It tracks everyone except the night kill, and then it will track the NK if it plays higher. These are the only interactions iwth Lurc I could find in sequential order:

Clarification question if I happen to target say a cop or a roleblocker etc.. and my card is higher I can track them as well correct not just the killer?

Eitherwar I target dorax and use my 6 card

Yeah. You track anyone. I was just showing that if the mafia kill is higher than your card, you won't track them to the kill. But if say darox is the tickler and you visit him to Zoraster, you'll see that.

You did not see Darox visit anyone last night.

You probably can't clarify further but just in case I would have received that message if I hadn't bid high enough or if I had bid high enough and he didn't go anywhere correct?

Correct.

So my question is this: I didn't mislead him, right? He misread my comments?

[Darox]

yeah, darox. I would have let you select if spyrex's pick would have put him over your total.

that said, SpyreX's play was better for town as a whole. Playing a 3 was a more protown action.

Eh, I didn't trust that the mafia restock ability worked exactly as written, plus I doubted I would be a target for said ability, so I was just shrugging off as many points as I could each night.

Laughing at Andrius in the dead QT though.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

The "Roleblock LLD" plan makes perfect sense regardless of the scum though. Why the hell would you give the town a free town-directed kill when you can avoid it?

[zoraster]

for what it's worth, and I know I'll take some flak for this, but I've nommed GreyICE for cunning manipulator. I think insofar as that award is really meant for someone who manipulates people into doing something, GreyICE really succeeded in doing that.

[GreyICE]

By the by, that tracker x 2 us just evil with the mafia framer.

Even if framer is higher he gets tracked and that is just baaaad.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Clarification question if I happen to target say a cop or a roleblocker etc.. and my card is higher I can track them as well correct not just the killer?

Eitherwar I target dorax and use my 6 card

Yeah. You track anyone. I was just showing that if the mafia kill is higher than your card, you won't track them to the kill. But if say darox is the tickler and you visit him to Zoraster, you'll see that.

From Lurc's question, it's pretty clear he's got a wrong notion about what his role does and your answer doesn't really address it. That seems like tacitly supporting his understanding of the role to me.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

for what it's worth, and I know I'll take some flak for this, but I've nommed GreyICE for cunning manipulator. I think insofar as that award is really meant for someone who manipulates people into doing something, GreyICE really succeeded in doing that.

Getting Spyre to vote for the wrong person is scummyworthy?

[Llamarble]

There wasn't any possibility of us running out of points on the last day anyway because of our theft-power, so I wasn't worried about that at all.