Zom Com Mafia - Mini 1225 (Abandoned)

[Chronopie]

I can flip Jak. He was embalmed though, so I don't think he decays normally. So I'd have to choose between Jak or the Lynch.

[Seraphim]

Wait, who embalmed him?

[SleepyKrew]

Do Jak pweez :3

[Chronopie]

For real this time but I don't think he's been honest with us.

You got that right. Sorry, I decided it would be better if scum didn't know about the true nature of my role...

I'm Albert Wesker, domino resurrector.
Basically, whoever I use my resurrect ability on gains it, and so on.
I also had another ability called preserve, which stops Jak from turning into ash when next killed.

Reading up some more later tonight (was away on camp).

[Captain Corporal]

Really, this isn't too hard. Lynch from the lynch pool, flip, then ressurect.

I'm happy with a Sotty lynch today.

[Sotty7]

Twisted has been bugging me in that he barely posted in the QT since I have been in there. It's harder to look protown in a QT than in thread so that had been grating on me. Now it seems he has flaked out of the game completely.

But the whole list deal with Ethos is hard to over look. He did change with the vampire bite and he was truthful about that.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I can flip Jak. He was embalmed though, so I don't think he decays normally. So I'd have to choose between Jak or the Lynch.

Are you nuts? There is

NO WAY

you should

EVER

consider flipping Jak.

He’s been killed

TWICE

by the Mafia. That’s as confirmed Town as you can

EVER

get.

There is absolutely no reason to ever flip him. If Sleepy isn’t lying and the game doesn’t end with Seraphim’s lynch Sleepy can twilight revive Jak tomorrow.

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Which I can easily remedy tonight. I can kill pretty much any player you like. Including myself, if you really want me to.

But you will not do it if you are the last Mafia. Fact. So I’d rather just hang you today and avoid any complications that would occur if I am right. I think the danger greatly outweighs the benefits if you do turn out to be Town.

Dude, just because he's human doesn't mean he's town. This "wight" ability makes him appear like he's undead. That's all. We've had one non-human flip, Maru. It makes sense that he'd be human.

So your premise is that Nik made a Mafia member ostensibly Human (and thus a Godfather to Ethos) and then gave him an ability that made him show up as non-Human so he did appear D1 on the ‘Back-seat’ list.

And thus Ethos was handed 50% of the scum team before a single post Day 1.

No.

You know what?

Unvote
Vote: Twistedspoon

I want this more than an SK lynch right now.

And this is scum flailing. First he votes CC, who he later says is confirmed Town. Then he begins to push towards Sleepy and now is voted Twisted.

This is slinging votes around hoping something sticks …

Also, I think that letting Jak flip might be a good idea.

Not a single reason from Town perspective to make this statement.

Confirm Vote: Seraphim

Go back and look at my back and forth with Seraphim. Look at all the questions he's dodging - for example why he voted CC earlier today when had he been using Town perspective logic he would have known CC was basically confirmed Town via actions.

Let’s get this done people!!!!

[Seraphim]

What the fuck ever.

Unvote
Vote: Seraphim

I'm tired of fighting. Hope you guys find the real scum tomorrow.

[SleepyKrew]

I still love you Sera.
intenttovoteserabuthangon
MoI, the 50% of scumteam business is WIFOM and outguessing the mod. If Sera ends up town, I think TS is the next best bet.
Now explain to me why we don't flip Jak. I don't care if he's been killed twice, we need a flip to be sure.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Now explain to me why we don't flip Jak. I don't care if he's been killed twice, we need a flip to be sure.

I’ve already explained it to you Sleepy. What don’t you get?

1. Jak is confirmed Town. Are you suggesting he submitted a mid-day Kill on himself yesterday for WIFOM fun?
2. Flipping him via Chrono means Chrono can’t be flipping the lynch for the Day. That’s just plain stupid since we need to actually flip the last scum to win.

Got it now? Read carefully again if you don’t.

MoI, the 50% of scumteam business is WIFOM and outguessing the mod. If Sera ends up town, I think TS is the next best bet.

It’s not more WIFOM than Sera’s “Hey, two Town neighborhoods” argument.

It also doesn’t change the fact that that isn’t even one of the points I’m relying on in my Twisted is Town analysis.

Other than ‘His play is crap’ (as floated by Sera) what reason do you think he’s NOT confirmed Town. I’d like to see reasoning. Refute my chain of logic and we can discuss it. I don't think you can.

Because Peregrine’s play was crap (defending all three dead scum) and he flipped Town. Crap play does not mean scum.

Your play hasn’t been any more stellar than Twisted’s. Why aren’t you a better choice to an outside party?

[Twistedspoon]

I've PM'd the mod requesting to replace out
apologies

[MagnaofIllusion]

MOD

As usual I’ll be V/LA from 5pm EST today until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties.[/b]

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Also regarding the replacement request –

Headdesk ….

[SleepyKrew]

TS
BEFORE YOU LEAVE
ANSWER MY QUESTION FROM THE QT

[SleepyKrew]

Also,
WHY ARE YOU REPLACING OUT?!?!

[SleepyKrew]

Flipping him via Chrono means Chrono can’t be flipping the lynch for the Day. That’s just plain stupid since we need to actually flip the last scum to win.

We can No Lynch. Duh.

Jak is confirmed Town. Are you suggesting he submitted a mid-day Kill on himself yesterday for WIFOM fun?
[stuff]
That’s just plain stupid since we need to actually flip the last scum to win.

Thanks for answering your own question.  

It’s not more WIFOM than Sera’s “Hey, two Town neighborhoods” argument.

Except I don't buy Sera's argument either. And you yourself called him out on his WIFOM, so why do you get to use it?

It also doesn’t change the fact that that isn’t even one of the points I’m relying on in my Twisted is Town analysis.

1. Then why'd you defend it?
2. True, you worded the "no hand over multiple scum D1" in a strange way...

Other than ‘His play is crap’ (as floated by Sera) what reason do you think he’s NOT confirmed Town. I’d like to see reasoning. Refute my chain of logic and we can discuss it. I don't think you can.

1. That is Sera's logic, not mine. Mine is that his play has been SCUMMY. There is a big difference. 
2. I still don't understand why he's conftown. I can't refute your logic if I don't understand it. Pretend I'm a 3rd grader and then explain it to me.

Hey, is there any reason that MoI is confirmed or are we just forgetting him because he made the list? 

[MagnaofIllusion]

We can No Lynch. Duh.

That’s also a stupid idea. We have a pretty overwhelming Town to scum ratio and a very limited number of Non-Confirmed Town to find the last scum in. Giving scum a free kill just to flip someone is very Anti-Town.

Thanks for answering your own question.

DERP. Jak can’t be Mafia. 0% chance. Flipping him is stupid. Period.

Except I don't buy Sera's argument either. And you yourself called him out on his WIFOM, so why do you get to use it?

Ok, are you trolling or do you not actually reading?

Because again – I’m not making that an actual part of any of my arguments. Why you keep insisting I am is starting to annoy me.

1. Then why'd you defend it?
2. True, you worded the "no hand over multiple scum D1" in a strange way...

Why’d I defend it when you asked a stupid question? Because I can. Doesn’t much matter.

I have no idea what you are trying to say in 2. The English eludes me.

1. That is Sera's logic, not mine. Mine is that his play has been SCUMMY. There is a big difference.
2. I still don't understand why he's conftown. I can't refute your logic if I don't understand it. Pretend I'm a 3rd grader and then explain it to me.

1. Defend your logic then. Show how Twisted is scummy. Just saying he is doesn’t cut it. For example his push on Bogre Day 2 looks pretty damn Town to me.
2. It’s pretty fucking clear. The combination of confirmed Role powers / results to multiple people (meaning there is no possibility of scum coordinating to fake out Town since only 1 remains) makes the possibility that Twisted isn’t Town Miller as he originally claimed pretty damn remote. If you don’t understand that summary I’m not sure what else I can do for you.

Hey, is there any reason that MoI is confirmed or are we just forgetting him because he made the list?

Well given that Sotty7 protected me from a kill and I ‘became’ a Zombie after Day 3 (confirmed by Peregrine) means that unless you are going to argue I sent a kill in on myself that I’m more or less confirmed.

Are you nervous that you are the next unconfirmed likely on the chopping block?

[SleepyKrew]

TS couldve just as easily been a Scum Miller.
No I'm not nervous. Should I be?
I know I didn't answer everything, will later, fillerfillerfiller

[Sotty7]

Sleepy, you have been all over Sera since pretty much the start of the game I looking though your ISO I don't see any reasons. Can you explain why he is so obv scum to me?

Also, why are you not voting him?

[Sotty7]

Vote: Sleepy

[SleepyKrew]

I'm going to do a full reread and ISOs and shit this weekend. I will be proddodging until then. Awesome.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Anyone not Seraphim or Sleepy –

Do you have any objections to my plan to lynch Serphim and shoot Sleepy via Ethos if Peregrine is not resurrected at Twilight?

If so please present them.

If not please vote Seraphim in your next post.

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TS couldve just as easily been a Scum Miller.

No I'm not nervous. Should I be?

Well if for some reason it’s not Seraphim it’s very likely you so if you are scum you should be absolutely terrified since you come right after him on the Hit List for Town.

[Sotty7]

I'd like Ethos to check in on that before we do anything.

I think the last scum is Sleepy at this point though.

[Captain Corporal]

Sotty, you serious? SK caught 2 of 3 scum, and pressured them, and lead the lynches. I will eat my socks if he flips scum.
VOTE: Sotty

[Sotty7]

Are you reading?

[Seraphim]

Boy, this game has been going well.

Unvote
Vote: SleepyKrew