New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[mastin2]

ORDER OF SK LIKELIHOOD:

6. David Xanatos
1. Empking
2. Xeras
5. Thor665 Lady Lambadelta BomberMan
4. Nobody Special Vifam
10. redFF
8. fatlikepig LTP Mafia
9. evilpacman18 (BUT THIS IS ON YOUR WORD OVERSOUL; HE WOULD BE NUMBER THREE IF NOT FOR YOU.)

[Oversoul]

ebwop: Thank you Mastin sorry

The only thing I cannot explain is the Third Night's results... Both of the roleblockers were on me + a watcher unless the SK isn't compulsive or the SK *is* a ninja which is highly likely.

[Oversoul]

Mastin, here is my thought process, smack me up if I am crazy

David + Empking JK definitely fucked the SK. Hoppster announced who he was going to investigate ahead of time. Why would EPM let his ability go through on one of those considering he was an SK? Or even a compulsive SK? Why wouldn't he kill the JK when he obviously felt threatened by Pine who was a scumrole blocker (also, you fucked up there SK, he was a guranteed mislynch for your self aligned faction the next day. You got greedy with a kill worrying).

David, has been playing SKETCHY was eager to be investigated by a Gunsmith and was Jailkept. Empking being the likely target of a night 2 SK attack is likely because Empking ALSO displayed interest in wanting to be investigated perhaps because he could be a godfather. I doubt it though and Empking just plays like that. PLUS, David hammered yesterday with a guilty to hopefully end the chance of a kill attempt on him + he tried to latch onto a mislynch for me.

[Oversoul]

I agree with that order you posted. I am looking in the QT for any discernible nuggets of information that can help us but I am like 80% sure that David is an SK most likely with ninja ability cause of the watchers.

[mastin2]

So, the way I see it.

The scum kill Estyn, for whatever reason.
The serial killer is either blocked or target-stopped.
Nobody targeted Xeras.

Bv successfully protects one of the neighbors, probably Hoppster, since Oversoul was likely going to be protected.

According to Otolia, nobody visited Hoppster. The scum tried to kill Oversoul, but were intercepted by BV.
The serial killer is either blocked or target stopped.

Hoppster protects Oversoul.
The scum kill Hoppster, obviously.
Yet the serial killer's kill...is gone. Either the player in question no-actioned, or they tried to take out Oversoul.

Pine tries to kill Oversoul (?), but is stopped by TOGTFO. He blocks someone else. (?) (This is where things begin to make less sense.)
The serial killer takes out Pine.

No other actions interfer with the Serial Killer taking out TOGTFO.


Can't fully make sense of this data, yet. But yeah, does look like David/Empking are prime serial killer material.

[mastin2]

Oh, forgot to factor in the mafia's roleblocks N1 and N2. They had no clue there was a serial killer until after they had all been wiped out, so we won't find clues in their ISOs. I doubt we'll figure out who they blocked, either, but their blocks add an unknown factor in. We know who they targeted N3, of course.

But, yeah.

[Oversoul]

I didn't think about that possiblity, Mastin. I assumed that scum could only double action if they were the last one and at that time Ironhead and Pine were still alive. If Pine did submit both actions that would allow for the other stray roleblock. If Pine did not submit both actions that means I was likely roleblocked (and they killed Hoppster, you are strecthing out the actions over more nights mastin, Hoppster protected me and died the same night Pine targetted me and TOG watched me).

[Oversoul]

Mastin, our neighborhood was awesome as fuck this game. Scum had a snowball's chance in hell. Wish you could have been in it.

[mastin2]

People who still need to be replaced:
Lady Lambadelta

If it's not David.
If it's not Empking.

Pretty much has to be the slot which originally was calling itself Indy-aligned town, since that was the only slot inactive during the night in question.

If that was a sarcastic confession and/or a scumslip, I'd laugh so hard.

[mastin2]

NEW ORDER OF SK LIKELIHOOD:

6. David Xanatos
1. Empking
5. Thor665 Lady Lambadelta BomberMan
2. Xeras
4. Nobody Special Vifam
10. redFF
8. fatlikepig LTP Mafia

(Since Thor's slot was inactive through N1-3, it is possible that would explain the lack of SK kills. Add in Bomberman's Indy-aligned town [and, hey, if he's as similar to me as he seems, he probably considers SKs to be pro-town ] comment, and he's more likely to be the SK than Xeras.)

[Oversoul]

If that was a sarcastic confession and/or scumslip, then DavidX did the same thing. He said he was trying something out.

DavidX could have visited me if he was a Ninja SK (Chkflip just recently won as that I believe so it is not uncommon) the night EVERYONE targetted me. If DavidX isn't the SK I will seriously be lost. O_o

I also believe that David was absent for that time period though... and Oblivious had priority on all the scum, why wouldn't he have priority on the SK most of all (for replacements?).

[Oversoul]

Thor Comments?

[redFF]

i think maybe epm should post a bit more and defend himself.

Iso him he looks pretty weird.

Why is there talk of an SK?

this post too.

[Nobody Special]

While it is true that I read [large portions of] the thread upon replacing in, now I have to go back and wade through an unfamiliar thread with new information in mind.

Therefore, I don't really see me providing a lot of help in the immediate near-term. I will be following up on the stuff you two have said thus far today; but I will admit right here I feel overwhelmed in this thread and more or less useless.

But I'll do my very best!

[Oversoul]

It didn't look like there was an SK at the point of that post iirc and it would have just been useless setup speculation. If DavidX is not the SK I will allow EPM to move very high up on Mastin's list.

pedit:

God damn that post was so very scummy. So very scummy.

[Oversoul]

ebwop: That post in 1614 is reffering to NS's post

Ya, at the time of EPM's "why is there SK talk post?" Hoppster had just died and it was Day 4. There was literally no information implying an SK was present in the setup. :\ usually the SK isn't *that* bad.

[Oversoul]

ODM gives me the SK I pay good money.

[Oversoul]

gives it to me gives it to me!!

[Nobody Special]

I am confused. Why are both Oversoul AND mastin not on mastin's SK list?

In other words, why should I trust the two of you?

[Oversoul]

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? I can see mastin not being on the list, but I trust him and doubt he would be so deceptive. BUT ME? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

[mastin2]

gives it to me gives it to me!!

But it's his! It's his own. It's his precious...

[Nobody Special]

Oversoul, I really don't mean to upset you so. But I haven't had the benefit of being in this game as long as you have. While I've read a lot of the game, there are things that apparently happened while my eyes glazed over. You'll allow me some time to process over 1,600 posts, won't you?

I do gather you got neighborized at some point -- can you point me to an approximate page or day/night where that happened?

[Oversoul]

We started as a neighborhood.

[Oversoul]

Don't worry. I am not trying to deceive you. All will be revealed shortly upon David's death when he flips as the SK.

[Nobody Special]

mastin: Tell me briefly why I should trust you?