Mini 1262 - Game Over (Over!)

[SodaSpirit17]

Matt is more VI than scum imho. But he is terrible.

[SleepyKrew]

You'll notice I haven't actually called you scummy. Paranoid much?

[Pine]

No, of course you haven't. Outright retaliating with "I'm not scummy, you are!" would be blatant OMGUS. Instead, you're using the slightly more subtle tactic of discrediting me.

[SleepyKrew]

I'm discrediting you?
Might it have occurrd to you that maybe I'm curious about your experiences with me, seeing as I only have a limited memory of you?

[SleepyKrew]

PLEASE FORGIVE ME O GREAT ONES
I asked the wrong question. Here it is for reals, answer it and you'll probably never hear about it again:
How would you describe my usual scum play? Good, bad, flipfloppy, etc? How good/bad would be uncharacteristicslly good/bad?

[Mattman]

what is VI?

[Force of Nature]

I don't really think scum try to "discredit" people.
Or at least that's something I've never consciously sought to make happen as scum.


VI stands for 'village idiot.'
It's basically a term for players who can't follow reason or fail to understand basics of the game.

[SleepyKrew]

Did you ever my question about me appearing townier upon reread?

[Mattman]

That hardly seems fair, what I've seen so far is a bunch of overanalyzing from a bunch of guys who seem like they know each other's metas from previous games. I don't bring any of that into this game so I'm letting you guys have at it.

[Force of Nature]

Yeah you seem sane. I just think calling a vote for pressure a "pressure vote" kind of defeats the purpose.
Also what prompted the Triangle = GF comment?

SK I don't think I ever answered your question.
I'm not sure I'll even remember what it was if I go back and look, unfortunately.
But yeah, being told by somebody I respect that I'm wrong does bias me toward seeing things their way.
Somewhere along the way I also looked at your meta. Except I didn't. What?
People asking about why you're reading them as town are also usually town, though scummeta may cover that now.

[Force of Nature]

I just read a lot of Sleepykrew ISOs. Could only find hats for scummeta though.
Still think he's probably town. 3AM llama is often crazy though.

[triangle123]

Soda: You acknowledged Yates seems a bit on the scummy side. Is it so far fetched that one of the people who had been voting for me and I both noticed that? Besides, you're currently voting for me after some people switched from a vote on you to a vote on me.

[Yates]

Wow, Triangle. You are pushing pretty hard for no reason and with no evidence. Wait - I put a hyphen in my post. Oh! And an ellipses... Those are surely scum tells. Now I see your rationale.

You'll notice that I didn't have a vote on the board [other than no lynch] expressly because I didn't feel as though there was any evidence to substantiate a vote. I'm not even bothered by people calling me scum or potential scum or scummy or whatever they want. That's how a discovery phase works. While I acknowledge that I'm not a fan of the sarcasm or tone of FoN or Sleepy's posts, I at least understand what they are trying to do. In fact, I believe that their pressure may have borne fruit in exposing YOU.

Vote: Triangle

Suspicious to me at present:
1. Triangle - Looks like you are trying to exploit a general distrust of Yates as seemingly the 2nd or 3rd option for players [190, 215, 224+225, 229+230, 237]. Plus, voting for a noob is the easy way out. No one is going to defend someone they don't know or particularly care for/about.
2. kondi2424 - random lynch vote with no explanation in 252

Less than suspicious to me at present:
1. Grimmjow - I agree with pretty much everything he says in post 253. A reluctance to random vote on Day 1 is not an immediate indicator of scum. To the contrary, it seems to indicate a reluctance to vote poorly. This is a position I at least understand. As indicated above, I also agree with his assessment of kondi. I can't even blame him for not liking my initial posts. I haven't had anything of substance to say until this post.
2. Implosion - Handled my "noob post" well in 176.
3. Sleepy - Handled my "cattle prod" well in 190.

Iffy:
Right now I'm iffy on Pine. Posts 195, 197 and 199, for example, show irrational flip-flopping. While that isn't an immediate incrimination because I did bait him a bit, it gives me cause for concern. At the very least, it gives me reason to pay a little extra attention to his posts and behavior.

[Pine]

^OMGUS against Triangle.

[SleepyKrew]

Pine. My question. One last time. Please.

[SleepyKrew]

Yates, Sodaread?
Why DID you use hyphens?

[xRECKONERx]

Wow, Triangle. You are pushing pretty hard for no reason and with no evidence. Wait - I put a hyphen in my post. Oh! And an ellipses... Those are surely scum tells. Now I see your rationale.

You'll notice that I didn't have a vote on the board [other than no lynch] expressly because I didn't feel as though there was any evidence to substantiate a vote. I'm not even bothered by people calling me scum or potential scum or scummy or whatever they want. That's how a discovery phase works. While I acknowledge that I'm not a fan of the sarcasm or tone of FoN or Sleepy's posts, I at least understand what they are trying to do. In fact, I believe that their pressure may have borne fruit in exposing YOU.

Vote: Triangle

Suspicious to me at present:
1. Triangle - Looks like you are trying to exploit a general distrust of Yates as seemingly the 2nd or 3rd option for players [190, 215, 224+225, 229+230, 237]. Plus, voting for a noob is the easy way out. No one is going to defend someone they don't know or particularly care for/about.
2. kondi2424 - random lynch vote with no explanation in 252

Less than suspicious to me at present:
1. Grimmjow - I agree with pretty much everything he says in post 253. A reluctance to random vote on Day 1 is not an immediate indicator of scum. To the contrary, it seems to indicate a reluctance to vote poorly. This is a position I at least understand. As indicated above, I also agree with his assessment of kondi. I can't even blame him for not liking my initial posts. I haven't had anything of substance to say until this post.
2. Implosion - Handled my "noob post" well in 176.
3. Sleepy - Handled my "cattle prod" well in 190.

Iffy:
Right now I'm iffy on Pine. Posts 195, 197 and 199, for example, show irrational flip-flopping. While that isn't an immediate incrimination because I did bait him a bit, it gives me cause for concern. At the very least, it gives me reason to pay a little extra attention to his posts and behavior.

is there a reason you didn't say a damn word about me

[Yates]

I currently have no read on Soda or Reck.

[SleepyKrew]

Do you have any actual townreads?

[Grimmjow]

I am far too hungover for this game right now. I will get back into the game later this evening.

[SleepyKrew]

Thanks for the post. More uselessness.

[Yates]

Do you have any actual townreads?

There's no one I have identified as "absolutely positively" townie. I think that will require investigation information or confirmed scum hunting success. My "less than suspicious" list would be the people I would investigate later [after checking on more suspicious characters] if I had a cop/investigator role.

A good half of the "town" has yet to contribute anything substantive at this early juncture in the game.

[SleepyKrew]

Alright. One last question:
Why'd you wait so long to post content?

[xRECKONERx]

Do you have any actual townreads?

There's no one I have identified as "absolutely positively" townie. I think that will require investigation information or confirmed scum hunting success. My "less than suspicious" list would be the people I would investigate later [after checking on more suspicious characters] if I had a cop/investigator role.

A good half of the "town" has yet to contribute anything substantive at this early juncture in the game.

you do realize town makes up a majority of the game so saying you have varying degrees of scumreads but no townreads is a terrible way of doing this

However Yates is probably town for post 296 alone

[Force of Nature]

Yeah, Yates has worked his way to townland.