Mini 1262 - Game Over (Over!)

[Pine]

Yeah, that's one of the questions I answered to what I feel is a reasonable degree at least a couple of times, SK. I'm going to be ignoring you until you become productive or until the time for your lynch comes around (today is SA's or DGB's turn, you'll get yours). A paradigm shift is really necessary in your play, considering that roughly half of your posts this game revolve around your paranoia about peoples' opinion of you or similarly useless topics.

WHO ARE YOU AGAIN?
Grimmjow

I lol'd.

[Grimmjow]

Do you have any actual townreads?

There's no one I have identified as "absolutely positively" townie. I think that will require investigation information or confirmed scum hunting success. My "less than suspicious" list would be the people I would investigate later [after checking on more suspicious characters] if I had a cop/investigator role.

A good half of the "town" has yet to contribute anything substantive at this early juncture in the game.

you do realize town makes up a majority of the game so saying you have varying degrees of scumreads but no townreads is a terrible way of doing this

However Yates is probably town for post 296 alone

That's funny, because I felt that post was a wee bit insincere. Though I understand the sarcasm in the first paragraph, and his rationale behind the second, I feel like he was kind of looking for a reason to vote Triangle to begin with, since it is a major wagon. And I was also a bit confused by his scum/town lists. Pine, to me, has been playing a fairly standard town game, so he's been in my town category for a while now. Implosion I'm null on. And kondi is actually shaded a little town to me. The random vote with no explanation on someone that no one was really suspicious of typically comes across as town to me, mostly because I feel like scum would feel the need to back up their votes to try and blend more.

Triangle, however, does look scummy.
1) I feel like she took my "Pine is town" comment and ran with it to see if anyone else would pick it up. Also, I would note that the only day that Triangle posted more than one time that day was the day she called me out. Which makes me immediately think that she was trying to see who else would run with her vote on me and be there to back it up.

2) I will agree with what she said about Yates, however, early on in that he wasn't contributing much.

3) Post 265 drives me up a fucking wall. Voting for someone that others found scummy IS actually a scum tactic. Nice of you, however, to back it up with flimsy reasoning. Your reasoning was basically this: he hasn't posted much (just like several other players in the game) and when he did post, it wasn't much in the way of content (just like several other people in the game); he also posted a few comments that were OBVIOUSLY sarcastic, but you don't seem to think so (why?); he also does seem to be thinking about the game and making it obvious he's doing so, so when he makes comments like "Intriguing" it means that he's thinking from scum mentality rather than town. I don't buy it. It's a pathetically weak case, it's crap IMO, and it was basically an attempt to blend in with a potentially beginning wagon since others have stated that they find him scummy.

4) The comment about Soda voting Triangle because of her vote on Yates is utter crap. Triangle makes a weak case and then votes Yates after FoN FoS'd Yates, and then unvotes Triangle. Triangle's vote here seems opportunistic. Like I said previously, it seemed like an attempt to blend in with a potentially beginning wagon. ON THE FLIP SIDE, Soda's vote on Triangle was produced because Soda saw the vote as opportunistic. Soda voted Triangle without any prodding from anyone (though Reck's comment immediately afterward does bug me slightly).

All in all, let's rope up Triangle and see her scummy ass dead.

Vote: Triangle

[Grimmjow]

(today is SA's or DGB's turn, you'll get yours)

Wrong game, buddy.

[xRECKONERx]

@Grimmjow:

The post's sincerity isn't what makes him town. It's the fact that his post screams paranoid townie to me, and his whole explanation of people he would investigate now rather than later screams discombobulated townplay, possibly from a VI, but definitely town.

And now you're voting Triangle so ++townpoints.

[Pine]

I'm in too many games with the same people

[xRECKONERx]

PEOPLE I'D LYNCH TODAY:

triangle -- If I really need to explain why this one should be the top lynch then you

haven't been paying attention

.
kondi -- The whole "LOL LOOK HOW VI I AM GUYS" play is EXACTLY the same shit kondi pulled when he flipped scum in [redacted].
SleepyKrew -- Something about EVERY POST HE MAKES just seems light and fluffy, like he isn't really trying. I did make a mistake in reading him poorly recently in [redacted], so I'd rather not lynch him.
Force of Nature -- I made a mental note of them being scummy, but they're last on this list because I'm not sure if it's actually being scummy or me just being uberfrustrated with the way the hydra has been confusing people.

WHO ARE YOU AGAIN?

Per
Furcolow
Mattman

NOT GONNA LYNCH:

Pine
Yates
implosion
Grimmjow

but seriously, who is Per

[triangle123]

Wow, Triangle. You are pushing pretty hard for no reason and with no evidence. Wait - I put a hyphen in my post. Oh! And an ellipses... Those are surely scum tells. Now I see your rationale.

For the record, there were two people who said, facetiously or not, that hyphens and ellipses were scummy, and neither of them were me.

You'll notice that I didn't have a vote on the board [other than no lynch] expressly because I didn't feel as though there was any evidence to substantiate a vote.

I wasn't complaining so much that you didn't have a vote as that you weren't actively participating. The point of my vote was to draw you out and make you start analyzing so we could hear your thoughts. Clearly, it worked. It was a pressure vote - hardly a bandwagon. That said, I am sufficiently satisfied with the analysis you posted and the content you're contributing.

Unvote

.

1) I feel like she took my "Pine is town" comment and ran with it to see if anyone else would pick it up. Also, I would note that the only day that Triangle posted more than one time that day was the day she called me out. Which makes me immediately think that she was trying to see who else would run with her vote on me and be there to back it up.

I generally post once a day because that's more or less the amount of time I have; I happened to have a little more down time that day and so I posted more.

3) Post 265 drives me up a fucking wall. Voting for someone that others found scummy IS actually a scum tactic. Nice of you, however, to back it up with flimsy reasoning. Your reasoning was basically this: he hasn't posted much (just like several other players in the game) and when he did post, it wasn't much in the way of content (just like several other people in the game); he also posted a few comments that were OBVIOUSLY sarcastic, but you don't seem to think so (why?); he also does seem to be thinking about the game and making it obvious he's doing so, so when he makes comments like "Intriguing" it means that he's thinking from scum mentality rather than town. I don't buy it. It's a pathetically weak case, it's crap IMO, and it was basically an attempt to blend in with a potentially beginning wagon since others have stated that they find him scummy.

There was in no way a bandwagon starting... I didn't like how Yates was barely contributing and instead posting these subtle little sarcastic comments that showed he clearly had thoughts on what was going on (like when he said "Intriguing"), but wasn't sharing. Once I voted him, he started contributing significantly more.

[SleepyKrew]

Pine, quote your answer so we can get this conversation over with?

[Furcolow]

soda called me "terribad scum" for claiming cop d1 when i was vanilla mafia, and we had power role mafia
that's so terribad
i would have pulled it off, too, if an unnamed player wasnt in the game that resulted in me replacing out due to disliking them that much

anyways, i believe soda is probably town after an iso, but i am ok with the lynch on the policy of them not being very intelligent if it comes down to it.

i am not sure if i support the wagon on triangle yet.

reckoner asking "who am i" is funny, and i know his list is a joke, but I have already claimed

[Pine]

^IIOA, and damned little at that. Supporting Soda's lynch with a Townread is super duper scummy. Next, please.

[SleepyKrew]

Pine, quote your answer so we can get this conversation over with?

[Force of Nature]

QT kittens say SK is too whiny to live and must be purged.

[SleepyKrew]

Fuck the QT kittens, I may or may not be scumhunting, now go back to sheeping me.

[implosion]

SK is playing exactly like he played in the two games i've played with him. He was town in both of them.

Like, literally, his play feels

exactly

the same.

[Furcolow]

^IIOA, and damned little at that. Supporting Soda's lynch with a Townread is super duper scummy. Next, please.

excuse me? that was not information instead of analysis whatsoever

[Pine]

Sorry, what analysis did you offer? All I see is irrelevant information, reads without reasoning, and noncommittal bullshit.

[SleepyKrew]

implosion, Tit for Tat and Execution, right? I played completely differently in those two games, and different in this one too...

Pine I swear I will go on a spampage if you don't quote your answer.

[Furcolow]

Sorry, what analysis did you offer? All I see is irrelevant information, reads without reasoning, and noncommittal bullshit.

All I see is a massive douche
and I'm looking at you
how is that for analysis?

[Regfan]

Uphilll replaces Per, everyone give him a warm welcome!

[xRECKONERx]

do something magical

[Furcolow]

reck, am I still on the gay part of your list?

[Furcolow]

vote: kondi2424

4 posts in iso
all are pitiful
his meta is WEAK
I want him out of this game before he can fester
He might actually be scum, but I don't care

[Uphill]

Hi guys, I replaced Per. I would lynch any of the following today:

Grimmjow: I feel like he's fluffing his way through this game. He didn't even attack anyone until 326, which is weird for someone who's spent so much of his time deriding everyone else for posting fluff.

implosion: His vote is on Soda, but he has not posed any questions to Soda, posted a case on Soda, tried to convince anyone else to vote Soda, asked anyone else's opinions on Soda, or done anything at all that concerns Soda in any way. And all of this has been true since post 68. And he's been here the whole time, talking about any other shit he can find.

He's just completely fucking ignoring the guy he's voting.

No way in hell does town EVER do that.

kondi2424: I demand you to state who is scum in your next post. If you do not, I

will

kill you.

Mattman: Same goes for you.

xRECKONERx: I definitely don't like the way he's protecting scummy-as-shit Implosion, and the fact that he's left Soda off both of his lists when Soda has been like the biggest focal point of this whole game is also incredibly suspicious.

Force, Furc, Pine, Sleepy, Soda, Triangle, and Yates are all town.

Everyone needs to stop voting whatever dumb townwagon they're on and do this:

VOTE: implosion

[Pine]

Was ISOing Furc to hassle Uphill about his Furc=Town declaration, but remembered Furc=Miller.

Allegations against Furc retracted, but not the criticisms. Dude, you've really got to provide more than just "this guy is scum, that guy sucks, and that one is weak." Reasons. Analysis. Show us your logic so we can follow it...that's the only way you can get us to understand your point and lynch scum.

[Force of Nature]

Implosion is my strongest townread.
His vote's on Soda because he didn't like post 64, which was the reason I voted Soda the first time too iirc.
He also calls Sleepy and me town in similar townish-sounding meta based posts.
Specifically he had no read on me until he found out who I was, and that information helped him figure out I was town. That is town thought process.

And he's transparent (you can see the town thought process as he just posts what he's thinking) in his other posting too.

If implosion is scum I'll be very very surprised, and we're definitely not lynching him today.