Mini 1262 - Game Over (Over!)

[Force of Nature]

Wheeee

[kondi2424]

Uphill, I didn't see your demand, and would have happily answered it if you had simply pointed out that I missed it. However, since you seem to have some kind of mental problem, I'll kindly invite you to kiss my ass.

[Pine]

Not a fan of the hostility in 401. Got something to hide?

[Mattman]

Unvote: Vote: Uphill

[xRECKONERx]

I'm just trying to think of why you would want to discredit me so much unless I'm on the right track?

I don't think this is like

I N C E P T I O N

levels of trickery. I think what matters here is that it feels completely disingenuous and Uphill is clearly a skilled enough player to know better. Being calm and collected isn't a fucking town tell. It's like he's just TRYING to find a reason to clear them.

how is this discrediting you

[Pine]

I want to say that 403 is too blatantly scummy to be scummy, but from what I've observed I am uncertain that Mattman is competent enough to be that clever. In other words, as much as I want to dissect the WIFOM of OMGUSing that badly, I don't know if it's possible.

[kondi2424]

Not a fan of the hostility in 401. Got something to hide?

Look at the post I'm responding to and tell me I was wrong to be hostile. He's being a prick.

[Pine]

I happen to agree with him regarding your poor participation, so despite him being a prick about saying it, the hostility isn't really warranted. Shape up, please.

[SleepyKrew]

Pine is dodging a simple question. Pine is being hostile and saying hostility is bad. I am tunneling on Pine. I am tunneling on scum. Pine is scum.
MATH

[Pine]

I answered your question a long time ago, at least twice. I decided to ignore your constant pestering to quote it, thinking you'd let it go and learn how to read my ISO. Your question was and is utterly irrelevant to the current game, and therefore continuing to hammer away at my refusal to answer it a third time is either really bad scum play or

ridiculously

bad Town play. Combined with your other scummy actions, it comes off strictly as an attempt to appear productive while making it seem like I'm not answering legitimate questions. This is a false premise. Your vote on me is based solely on this, which equates to really, really bad OMGUS.

Now go ISO me and kindly fuck off.

[SleepyKrew]

If it's so irrelevant why'd you answer it at least twice? You dig up the answer it's easier, you are simply refusing to answer a question. A question that is probably irrelevant but in no way hurts the town.

[Pine]

Oh for fuck's sake. This...

Pine. Please just answer this with a yes or no. Do. I. Play. Well. As. Town?

Not going to let this go, are you? It isn't a yes/no question, and phrasing irrelevant subjective questions in a black or white context is a classic scum tactic to then go "Aha!" The answer is that I believe you are capable of playing Town well, and I believe you are capable of playing Town poorly. In this case, I feel you are playing scum. Poorly.

is where I answer most succinctly, but about a third of my ISO at this point is devoted to either repeatedly giving my opinion of your meta in various different ways in the vain hope that you'll understand what I'm saying, or telling you to fuck off.

I WILL NOT BE RESPONDING TO THIS OFFTOPIC AND USELESS LINE OF QUESTIONING AGAIN. EITHER BE SATISFIED AND FUCK OFF OR DON'T BE SATISFIED AND STILL FUCK OFF.

[SleepyKrew]

YOU LITTLE PRICK
THATS NOT THE FUCKING QUESTION I WANT ANSWERED
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[SleepyKrew]

LIL BITCH RUNNIN
LIL BITCH SCARED
LOL

[implosion]

Formal case on sodaspirit, because I'm in the mood. FTR, the other people that I have suspicions of in this particular juncture include reck and grimmjow. Read the whole thing. It's a bit long, but good reading.

Anyways this is the post where I say hi and give my current thoughts.

No real thoughts as of yet. Played with Furc before he was terribad scum once, however I don't see his lynch going through because of the ellipses, but that was a little bit all, but I agree with whoever said that isn't a scum-tell if they post ellipsis' because I do the same thing whether scum or not.

Time to pressure some people. I'm like 95.7% sure I found scum on page 1. Post 1.

This is the post where i give my thoughts LOLJK I DON'T HAVE ANY THOUGHTS. As I said before, this post is just trying too hard to fit in. The first line and the last line of it are both lines where soda describes what soda is doing. Soda has no reason to describe what he's doing if he's town (it should probably feel more natural to just DO stuff). But if he's scum, then doing stuff like "hey guys, i'm giving thoughts" "hey guys, i'm pressuring people" is, in essence, saying "hey guys, i'm doing town behavior, i must be town, huh." There really isn't much reason to do that unless he's scum. His RVS vote on Per is also trying way too hard.

Any explanation to that vote? Or are you just gonna sit there with a vote on me and expect everyone to wagon..

No stance on SK. Doesn't directly call SK scummy for voting him. just asking for an explanation. No real indication that SK is wrong, either... he's just kind of accepting the fact that SK voted him. Saying "are you just expecting people to wagon me" implies (albeit in a convoluted way) that soda thinks that he is worthy of having a case made on him.

Well? Most 'keyword most' of the people haven't posted enough info to gather much info. The only things eventful that happened were Furcowgon, Grimmjow saying he would quit if Pine was scum, and now this wagon. None of the former 2 were scum-tells.

So there are eventful things that happened. The former two weren't scum tells.

This implies that soda thought that the latter one (eg, the wagon on him)

was

a scumtell, but he didn't elaborate on it.

Multiple people voted Soda. He implicitly said that the wagon on him was scummy, but didn't criticize anyone on the wagon, didn't attack anyone, etc.

Side note, if soda is scum, so is grimm, probably, from posts 79 and 89. But that's for another time.

Triangle vote on Grimm was very awful, for his reasons given. Augh.

Llama's floppiness is kind of a null-tell but usually it's a scum-tell.

However, I feel like this is the time to make my first real vote.

VOTE: SleepyKrew

SK ol' buddy,I really really hated it when you asked me to claim at l-3. That was really stupid, and it looks like rolefishing fmpov. Justify yourself.

"kind of a null-tell but usually it's a scum-tell." Soda currently holds the record for the most noncommittal sentence this game. Noncommittal...ness is a scumtell on its own, and is probably more valid than most other cliché scumtells (like lurking and rolefishing and etc). Being noncommittal means that you want to leave your options open - town members have no reason not to be firm in their stances. Even if those stances are "i don't know" or "i'm not sure," town are clear what their stances are. This sentence is obfuscated from "kind of" and "but usually" - ergo, not clear. That's not even the best part of the post, though.

"Oh goodie, time to make my first real vote. I think I'll vote the guy who's pushing for my lynch because i'm scum, and motivated by self-survival. I think I'll also use a cliché scumtell that almost never applies in reality and is accidental when scum actually commit it to attack him! Oh, goodie. I think I'll also completely ignore his response and completely drop the case once some other wagon pops up." - dramatization of sodaspirit17's thought process.

"it looks like rolefishing fmpov." Why FYPOV? If you're town, shouldn't it be

everyone's point of view?

Just strikes me wrong.

Well what's to hate? I am scumhunting, and I'm pretty sure this girl is scum, now if only others will realize

"Oh hey guys, i'm doing things that town members do, now stop looking at me funny ." This fits in perfectly with what i said a bit father up about his first content post - he has little reason to try to over-justify his actions by doing stuff like saying "hey, i'm scumhunting" if he's town, but plenty of reason if he's scum (that is, to try to get attention on to other people). Also, if he's town, he should be trying to push that suspicion, not going "oh, i sure do hope other people agree with me" as if he doesn't have the ability to convince. And he does the

EXACT SAME THING

In post 307.

To sum up this component of the case:

Anyways this is the post where I say hi and give my current thoughts.
Time to pressure some people.
Well what's to hate? I am scumhunting, and I'm pretty sure this girl is scum, now if only others will realize
And sometimes I feel like I defend more than I offend, but I've been gettin' down and dirty with the scumhunting.

WAY too much talking about how he's doing things that townies do. Soda is making an

active effort to look like he is town

. Only scum should have a need to do this not only when he's under pressure but in his very first post after confirming.

Wagon, ho.

[Regfan]

Vote Count 1.4:

Triangle123 (4): xRECKONERx, SodaSpirit17, Yates, Grimmjow
SodaSpirit17 (3): Implosion, Pine, Force of Nature
SleepyKrew (1): Kondi2424
Kondi2424 (1): Furcolow
Mattman (1): Uphill
Uphill (1): Mattman
Pine (1): SleepyKrew

Not Voting (1):

Triangle123

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or no lynch. The deadline is in (expired on 2011-10-31 23:00:00)

[Force of Nature]

Wheeee

On a side note he makes the best charts.

Still love all the arrows pointing at furcolow.

[Uphill]

This seems like quite an overreaction to a question. This screams of scum.

The "overreaction" wasn't to your question, that was to your lack of play. You'll note the only thing I said to your question was basically "no, read it again".

Making definitive reads = playing the game already?

Like seriously, who the fuck are you to be making demands at this juncture?

Making ANY reads = playing the game already.

Uhhh, I posted all my reads - on every single player - right in my very first post, so I'm fully qualified to be making demands from Mattman and Waste of Slot 2 regarding their reads. Nice try though.

I'm just trying to think of why you would want to discredit me so much unless I'm on the right track?

How about because you're on the wrong track?

Uphill, I didn't see your demand, and would have happily answered it if you had simply pointed out that I missed it. However, since you seem to have some kind of mental problem, I'll kindly invite you to kiss my ass.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: kondi2424

since at least mattman is doing something now, whereas you are still a waste of a slot

[SleepyKrew]

Implosion, I totally agree with Soda/Grimm/Reck BUT YOU FORGOT PINE

[Mattman]

I'm just trying to think of why you would want to discredit me so much unless I'm on the right track?

I don't think this is like

I N C E P T I O N

levels of trickery. I think what matters here is that it feels completely disingenuous and Uphill is clearly a skilled enough player to know better. Being calm and collected isn't a fucking town tell. It's like he's just TRYING to find a reason to clear them.

how is this discrediting you

Reckoning I was talking about Uphill's slamfest in a previous post, not you. I've been playing all day today, I think its about time to drop the play the game crap. I haven't seen a point in chiming in until today, it was all RVS and when I got a read I posted. Maybe I didn't read as much into things as you guys did, but that's my choice to make.

[Uphill]

Uhhhh, I

did

drop it. I changed votes, I stopped insulting you, and I even said "at least mattman is doing something now". I don't see how it's possible for it to be any more dropped.

[Mattman]

I'm sorry man. It's my birthday today and I'm a couple irish carbonb's in. It's more than possible that I missed it.

[SleepyKrew]

inb4 Reck makes Irish Carbomb joke

[Force of Nature]

Bah, I think I may have some inaccurate data in that gif I made.
Still it was actually pretty useful to stare at it and think about scumteams / what's been going on.
I bet Mastin would love that thing.
I'm really starting to believe in Pinescum.
Pine + Soda + Grimm or something like that.
I'm really tired now and shouldn't be posting.
Goodnight.

[SleepyKrew]

I love you Llamarble <3