The Aftermath - Victors Announced

[chunkykev]

VOTE: Pine

I'm off on holiday shortly, as you all know, and I want a vote in place before I go. He just looks scummier the more he tries to explain his claimed role. I don't like it. I don't buy it.

[Pine]

Hoppster's points are somewhat valid, but don't actually provide anything to contend with. I don't have a response.

I will re-register the sacrifice action if I get to L-1.

[Hoppster]

You could clear up what you're actually a current/former manager of and you could also explain why you found your action so puzzling.

[Hoppster]

*ability, not action.

[kuribo]

Hoppster's points are somewhat valid, but don't actually provide anything to contend with. I don't have a response.

I will re-register the sacrifice action if I get to L-1.

so he says your claim is fake and clustereffed, and you don't have any way of countering that?



okay, scum

[Pine]

Fuck off, kuribo. What I said was that there was no question to answer, or false statement to contradict, or claim to counter. Most of what he says is accurate, though interpreted in the worst light possible. 1227 rectifies that.

Hopp, the Role PM does in fact use the word manager a lot. Baroness->estate manager->cult manager->Town manager. It says that during the days of the cult prior to my recruitment, the cult leader was managing both the Town and the cult's recruitment process. After he was deposed, managing the Town fell to me.

I've stated what I found difficult. I never misunderstood my role (except whether it would be publicly acknowledged), I was wrestling with the pros and cons of using it. I have now found two ways of using it to hinder Town as little as possible while causing problems for scum. The first I have explained. The second is to use it right before I'm lynched, to deny scum the advantage of compounding the problem with a free NK. I'll be lynched and we'll go directly into the next day down one player instead of two or more.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't understand anything.

[xRECKONERx]

Pine is town.

kuribo why are you this bad

Or are you just scum that isn't trying

[kuribo]

kuribo why are you this bad

good idea, you're right

i absolutely should accept every half-ass retarded claim

i'm excited to be a part of this plan, frankly

[Pine]

Kuribo, I'm really, really good at being scum. My fakeclaims are seamless. Get back on the Rhinox wagon and lynch some scum.

Votes on DGB and chunkykev are also acceptable.

[xRECKONERx]

chunkykev is town because SocioPath died and he didn't notice

[Hinduragi]

Spy is confirmed town, you dumbass, Fate. LET ME EXPLAIN. I looked at that kill and then saw Elli dying. Now, scum obviously know a majority of us are looking at SDC and TARGETING them because we're sure there's scum there. So obviously they're gonna capitalize all over that shit. Now, if one of them isn't SDC, why eliminate an SDC? NOPE, makes no sense. So one of you ARE scum. And it points to YOU, because Socio is the one YOU are afraid of SINCE DEFCON 2. Onto the next point. Scum sure as fuck is in one of the people on Reck, because they killed Sociopath over him, and Reck/Sociopath are the two most town looking SDC at this point. If you're going to kill town SDC #1, then Reck is #2 but you think you can take him down and you already know you can get in on that shit. Fate, YOU are that person. Eliminating a 2nd SDC in public after killing 1 makes NO sense AT ALL unless you want to fucking DIE. Killing too many SDC makes YOU the target because everyone's looking at the SDC. So, Spyrex is NOT scum.Don't be a fucking idiot.

[Hinduragi]

WELL IF TWO PEOPLE DIE TOMORROW THEN SPYREX CAN DIE BUT HE ISN'T VERY LIKELY TO BE A MAFIA WITH EXTRA KILLS LIKE THAT

BALANCE, KIDS

Spyrex, meet confirmed town status.

[Hinduragi]

Aha! I just figured out how to use my abilities correctly. Maybe game-breaking, too.

I have a passive ability (BP), a minor one-shot (motivate), and a major one-shot (sacrifice).

-Bulletproof keeps me alive until near-endgame
-Motivate was wasted, but I think it was mostly for role flavor
-Sacrifice. Hoo boy. As a

day action

, I can sacrifice myself. This DOES NOT END THE DAY, as it says can be taken back up until the hammer. My sacrifice would be a party that lasts until dawn...completely skipping the night phase. No scum kills, but no Town night actions either. Hence the major drawbacks I wasn't sure about.

HOWEVER, near endgame (when there's maybe six or seven people left), I can use my ability. Most of the time, there's damn few Town PRs by that time, because they've all been hunted down for small PR-slips. It would have much more impact against scum at that point.

Hoo boy. Now scum know to NK you before that. This is the most fuckin retarded premature claim I've ever read in my life.

[Hinduragi]

/skipped the BP. Re-read it in a Spyrex quote. What the fuck is that about anyways? Confirmed until the last part of the game? This shit is going to be swingy as fuck.

[Pine]

Except I'm Bulletproof, which is what emboldened me to state my full claim and plan.

PE: Kay you got it. Kind of.

[Hinduragi]

chunkykev is town because SocioPath died and he didn't notice

Dunno. I read that part and thought he might've been coached on it. He obviously read the thread and even I, who missed the BP, noticed Socio died.

Also, Elli, claim.

[Kublai Khan]

My role has no name, but it does list my previous occupation. Our Leader is described as Courageous.

I'm a little torn on Pine. On one hand, scum-Pine wouldn't say something as stupid as this:

I think that's a big scumslip there. He's calling the cult leader "Great Leader" instead of "our Misled Leader". By flavor, he's still in the cult. BOOM, headshot.

On the other hand, town-Pine wouldn't lie:

I'm the Town manager. I have two one-shot abilities and am bulletproof until I use them. My flavor suggests that the Misled Leader was mismanaging the cult until I stepped in and fixed it. I can motivate once, and something else once. I'd rather not say what that is exactly, as it has significant pros and cons that I haven't fully evaluated yet.

Aha! I just figured out how to use my abilities correctly.

So... uh, yeah. Hoppster's #1224 is dead on. "I'm bulletproof until I sacrifice myself, so let's sacrifice me at LYLO" sounds like a horrible plan if the even that you are lying. Since we're going to have two flips after today, I think we would benefit more from a GLOBAL ROLEBLOCKED night so we can continue scum-hunting on Day 3. So I'm going to

STRONGLY ENCOURAGE

that Pine sacrifices himself today.

Everytime xRECKONERx starts to make a little sense (1171), he dips back into retardery (1235). chunkykev had the first game post of Day 2. There's no way that I'm going to accept that he "didn't realize" SocioPath was dead. It's a gambit for townie reads.

Hinduragi's #1236 looks like gibberish. And not just because of the lack of readable formatting. He needs to re-write that.

Someone explain the Rhinox case to me. I hope it's a lot better than his "I don't think Sleepless Assassin is scum but here's my vote" move.

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: chunkykev

Gonna read over Day 1 tomorrow and I'll generate some new reads on peoples.

[SpyreX]

So since we went through that whole song and dance with the sacrifice claim/unclaim lalala:

Are you still bulletproof yes/no.

This is an important question.

[Pine]

Why would you ask that question?

If I answer in the negative, scum go ahead with the green light to kill me. If I answer in the affirmative, scum don't have to contemplate that question in choosing whether or not to shoot at me, potentially causing me to fail to absorb a NK.

Then again, maybe I added the part about being bulletproof to screw with the scum.

[SpyreX]

I, of everyone in this game, care very little about your bulletproof and playing teehee with me will just end in "OHH GOD MY ORGANS WHY WHY" soon enough.

There's a specific reason I'm asking this and actually answering it instead of lolscumwifoms would actually be useful.

[Pine]

That reason being?

[Hinduragi]

This is stupid. Don't answer it. If you target Pine, I'm jumping in his place. He's obvtown.

[Hinduragi]

Hinduragi's #1236 looks like gibberish. And not just because of the lack of readable formatting. He needs to re-write that.

Fate called Spy scum.

SDC is being targeted.

Socio was a kill.

Spy daykills Elli on the same night even though that means it's between him, Fate(who wanted to 1v1 him or something), and Reck(who's obvtown)?

Add in Reck's two kill thing for mafia.

Spy is confirmed town.

[Pine]

Actually, this line of questioning is producing a level of ambiguity regarding my bulletproof status that I quite like. It might just result in scum trying and failing to roll a Will save to disbelieve, and us getting a free no-kill out of it.