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Post Post #5375 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:40 am

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I think he means tasteful as in Mafia MF... mafiascum <______<?

What's funny is I don't think I've seen a single scummer play MF in a single game out of 1400+ games.... inb4Jdodge
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Post Post #5376 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:41 am

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Hito I'm in love with Vlad now

I require training (and yes I bought ze haunting guises)
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Post Post #5377 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:47 am

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I like playing MF on her free week and she's the next champ I'm buying (with the mafia skin because it's pretty nice IMO)
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Post Post #5378 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:52 am

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You're basically a newbier version of Jdodge anyway so my point stands
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Post Post #5379 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:58 am

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I feel compelled to change my ingame status to JD Jr now.
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Post Post #5380 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:02 am

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Fate wrote:I think he means tasteful as in Mafia MF... mafiascum <______<?


no I meant tasteful by riots super-misogynist standards

I mean yeah I wouldn't want my girlfriend to meet my mom dressed like that, but at least it's tastefully sexual instead of hilariously demeaning

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mpen reds, dodge seals, scaling ap blues, ap quints

go 9-21-0. exhaust mastery, nimbleness, 3 ranks of ardor. so good.

I like Exhaust/Flash the most. If not having improved summoners bugs you, you could go Exhaust/Heal or Exhaust/Fortify but I can't say I'd recommend it. (In Dominion do Exhaust/Garrison).

QWQE (Or QEQW if you're certain you won't be ganked pre-4), R>Q>E>W

Dorans Shield, Boots, {Ruby Crystal, Amp. Tome, Sorc Boots}, Deathcap is your core

alternatively you can go hextech into WotA if you'd rather do shitty damage instead of good damage

from there it's reactive, generally survivability and rylais are good options though. remember AP gets you some health (that's why you can go guise into cap without being a squishy fucker, you get the HP on guise plus hp on all of the ap you're grabbing). Don't get void unless the priority targets are packing 100+ MR, in which case you'll want to sell your guise.


EQ rolls help you harass in lane. if they try to get sassy with you, REQWEQ is a giant sucker-punch with a lot of healing on it

don't be a moron about your tides stacks. you want to hang out at about 1 or 2 usually, go to 4 if you've got the health and you're ready to rock
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Post Post #5381 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:05 am

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It's pretty funny watching people on the forums talking about Ranged AD's and their problems like they know what they're talking about, and having it completely wrong.
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Post Post #5382 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:11 am

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I don't get the JD Jr jokes

also I strongly dislike Vlad >.>

I just tried Jax though and WHOA HE'S AWESOME
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Post Post #5383 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:22 am

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It's quite lulzy when Fate plays jax
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Post Post #5384 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:26 am

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Yay I was almost there!
I ran dodge on him already cause I don't have hp/level. I run one apen quint cause 50 apen with boots and guise is so sexy on screen...

But you're gonna need to sell me on this exhaust >_>
I ran 10/12/8 or somethin weird because I like xp mastery (since all other ap mids are bound to have it) and late tree defensive are meh. (But I can see ardor bein useful) I like ignite cause it helps kill things and is amplified by hemo, which let me ensure at least a double kill in team fights.

Ill try him without a hextech and see how that works though hmm.
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Post Post #5385 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:29 am

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Also why not CDR blues? I don't have them but he seems to scale well with it without having any attractive items (or need for blue buff) to get him there...
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Post Post #5386 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:35 am

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Fate wrote:Yay I was almost there!
I ran dodge on him already cause I don't have hp/level. I run one apen quint cause 50 apen with boots and guise is so sexy on screen...

But you're gonna need to sell me on this exhaust >_>
I ran 10/12/8 or somethin weird because I like xp mastery (since all other ap mids are bound to have it) and late tree defensive are meh. (But I can see ardor bein useful) I like ignite cause it helps kill things and is amplified by hemo, which let me ensure at least a double kill in team fights.

Ill try him without a hextech and see how that works though hmm.


eh if you're not finishing defense tree ignite's not so bad. but people with heals in their kit love exhaust because stalling for time is just that much better when you get a heal at the end of it. plus exhaust is just op in general. not to mention exhaust + pool make vlad just obscenely baity

as for blues, :shrug: cdr may very well be better. my vlad page is my general no mana caster page and I just have ap blues? come to think of it cdr is probably really good on EVERYONE without mana. I might switch that shit
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Post Post #5387 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:10 am

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My Vlad build is pretty different.

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Amp tome-> Hextech-> lvl 1 boots-> WoA-> Ninja Tabi or Merc Treads-> Rylais-> D.Cap or Void Staff-> The other one of D.Cap or Void Staff-> Hourglass.

You're basically a bruiser, not burst damage. As long as you have full stacks up your team fighting method is basically just ult as you run in, q the nearest thing, Tides, pool as many things as your can, Q the squishiest thing you can reach, Tides. You're goal is basically just output as much AoE as possible while being tough enough that you can charge through their team to get into Q range of their carries.

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Post Post #5388 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:23 am

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My vlad build would be more similar to that of Button's; I wouldn't upgrade the hextech into a WotA so early, though. The main things being me loving TP so much that I very rarely give it up for Exhaust on something and me lacking anything other than Mpen/Arpen reds, armor yellows, MR blues, HP quints. In fact, I don't even have the Mpen reds/HP quints on NA (I'm really crippled when I play casters atm).
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Post Post #5389 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:36 am

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Teleport is a really really great spell but realistically you only need 1 on a team and beyond that having more exhausts will help your team more in teamfights. In terms of laning, exhaust and teleport are both hugely good and awesome. Teleport helps your team with objective control, exhaust helps your team in teamfights - but additional teleports add very little extra benefit in terms of objective control whereas additional exhausts add even more to teamfights (as a typical comp will have 2-3 ad champions from top lane, jungle and bot lane.) So if one person is going to run tp, it should normally be solo top, as that gives ultimate dragon control. Hence if your vlad is solo top (which vlad occasionally is) I can see tp on vlad, but if he's standard mid lane you probably get more from exhaust.
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Post Post #5390 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:54 am

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I really recommend F*** Slashers of today for a very good insight on the scene.
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Post Post #5391 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:55 am

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Post Post #5392 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:59 am

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dramonic wrote:I like playing MF on her free week and she's the next champ I'm buying (with the mafia skin because it's pretty nice IMO)
But I wouldn't play her with JD on skype, he'd smite me.


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Post Post #5393 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:14 pm

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I like building hybrid with her. I know you're a fervent defender of AD-only MF, as seen by your earlier post in this thread.
I wouldn't build PURE AP, but everything besides double-up scales on AP and I don't like double-up's randomish nature.
Stuff like Nashor Tooth, Guinsoo, Gunblade

Then again I don't play ranked and mostly dislike random bitching, so I wouldn't use it outside of mostly premade groups.

Which reminds me, what are good champions for building Nashor's Tooth? I like Nashor's Tooth ._.
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Post Post #5394 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:34 pm

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dramonic wrote:I like building hybrid with her. I know you're a fervent defender of AD-only MF, as seen by your earlier post in this thread.
I wouldn't build PURE AP, but everything besides double-up scales on AP and I don't like double-up's randomish nature.
Stuff like Nashor Tooth, Guinsoo, Gunblade

Then again I don't play ranked and mostly dislike random bitching, so I wouldn't use it outside of mostly premade groups.

Which reminds me, what are good champions for building Nashor's Tooth? I like Nashor's Tooth ._.


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Post Post #5395 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:49 pm

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I really don't like Shyvana's "classic" skin. I prefer both her skins over the classic one(although I'm with Chrono in saying that I want the bone dragon with the Ironscale Human)

Also who was that blue ninja thing with the mummy foot(is it really Shaco?)

Singed just got a skin, so its gonna be EZ

New ChoGath Skin is amazing.

I agree with Hito on this MF skin.
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Post Post #5396 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:07 pm

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Yeah it's a Shaco skin and it kinda looks bleh.
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Post Post #5397 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:21 pm

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it IS ez. If you check ingame in his skin tabs its there.
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Post Post #5398 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:27 pm

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Am I the only person that builds a spirit visage on Vlad?
or something like that....
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Post Post #5399 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:51 pm

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