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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:36 am

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Fate dying and both Wraith and Ray misreading my claim?

Maybe like they thought I hid last night?

A mystery, no.

So we can either lynch one of them today or let it go to night and then ~mystery roleblock~ and kuribo turns up dead.

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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:58 am

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SpyreX wrote:Fate dying and both Wraith and Ray misreading my claim?

Maybe like they thought I hid last night?

A mystery, no.

So we can either lynch one of them today or let it go to night and then ~mystery roleblock~ and kuribo turns up dead.

Your call.

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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:02 am

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Anyone else get role-blocked? Like during the entire course of this game?
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:12 am

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Fun with Vote Counts:

End of Day 1:


Day 1, Vote Count #26
MagnaofIllusion
(0)
-
Dekes
(1) -
Scott Brosius

WrathChild
(1) -
Lady Lambdadelta

GreyICE
(0) -
Ant_to_the_max
(0) -
Lady Lambdadelta
(0) -
RayFrost
(1) -
Hiraki

Hiraki
(2) -
WrathChild
,
MagnaofIllusion

ToastyToast
(0) -
Maxous
(0) -
AGar
(0) -
dramonic
(0) -
Seraphim
(0) -
Meransiel
(9) -
Ant_to_the_max
,
SpyreX
,
GreyICE
,
dramonic
,
kdowns
,
Maxous
,
ToastyToast
,
Seraphim
,
RayFrost

SpyreX
(0) -
Scott Brosius
(1) -
AGar

kdowns
(0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (2) -
Dekes
,
Meransiel


My first reaction is that I think obviously Hiraki wanted to steer clear of the mislynch on Meran and I don't think he had the capcity to want to push so hard against Ray that day. Man, so much back and forth on Ray.
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:19 am

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End of Day 2


Day 2, Vote Count #7
MagnaofIllusion
(1) -
GreyICE

Dekes
(0) -
WrathChild
(2) -
Hiraki
,
dramonic

GreyICE
(0) -
Ant_to_the_max
(0) -
Lady Lambdadelta
(0) -
RayFrost
(0) -
Hiraki
(9) -
RayFrost
,
MagnaofIllusion
,
WrathChild
,
Seraphim
,
Maxous
,
ToastyToast
,
SpyreX
,
kdowns
,
Lady Lambdadelta

ToastyToast
(1) -
AGar

Maxous
(0) -
AGar
(0) -
dramonic
(0) -
Seraphim
(0) -
SpyreX
(0) -
kuribo
(0) -
kdowns
(0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (3) -
Dekes
,
Ant_to_the_max
,
kuribo


The only thing that really stands out here for me is the no-vote by Kurbio and that Ray was the first one on the Hiraki train.
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:24 am

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End of Day 3:


Day 3, Vote Count #20
MagnaofIllusion
(0) -
Fate
(0) -
WrathChild
(0) -
hiplop
(1) -
RayFrost

Lady Lambdadelta
(6) -
WrathChild
,
Seraphim
,
kdowns
,
hiplop
,
MagnaofIllusion
,
Lady Lambdadelta

RayFrost
(0) -
Maxous
(0) -
Seraphim
(3) -
kuribo
,
Fate
,
SpyreX

SpyreX
(0) -
kuribo
(0) -
kdowns
(0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (1) -
Maxous


So here's something interesting. Is it possible that the entire LLD wagon was town? If we believe Spyrex, that is the case. No-Vote by Maxous noted, but it doesn't really matter at this point.
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:28 am

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End of Day 4


Day 4, Vote Count #4
Fate
(0) -
WrathChild
(0) -
hiplop
(5) -
Fate
,
SpyreX
,
kdowns
,
WrathChild
,
kuribo

RayFrost
(0) -
Maxous
(0) -
Seraphim
(0) -
SpyreX
(0) -
kuribo
(0) -
kdowns
(0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (4) -
hiplop
,
RayFrost
,
Maxous
,
Seraphim


Another no-vote by Maxous, but that's moot. We also have a no-vote from Ray and Sera. The Hiplop lynch happened fast and it's hard to get a read off it. It requires a closer look.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:32 am

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the thing you forget about my no vote on hiraki is that LLD hammered him literally less that an hour after I replaced in.

you also forget that Spyspy wanted me to hammer him, despite the fact that I hadn't read the game yet
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:35 am

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In [url= 789 [/url], SpyreX wrote:YESSS

Kuribo - do it. BLOOD
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:37 am

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End of Day 5


Day 5, Vote Count #10
Fate
(1) -
kdowns

WrathChild
(0) -
RayFrost
(0) -
Maxous
(5) -
SpyreX
,
kuribo
,
Seraphim
,
Fate
,
Maxous

Seraphim
(0) -
SpyreX
(0) -
kuribo
(0) -
kdowns
(0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (2) -
RayFrost
,
WrathChild


Now obviously we want to look at the Not-Voters, me and Ray. However as I said earlier, I was voting Maxous until Fate demanded that I unovte and then during my usual weekend V/LA Maxous was lynched. Ray on the other hand says he wants to vote Maxous and calls him scum a couple times but never put his money where his mouth was.
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:37 am

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kuribo wrote:the thing you forget about my no vote on hiraki is that LLD hammered him literally less that an hour after I replaced in.

you also forget that Spyspy wanted me to hammer him, despite the fact that I hadn't read the game yet

So do you think Spy is scum?
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:46 am

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I haven't ruled it out, I just worry that since fakclaim spyscum has burned me before, it's biased my opinions of his claims

I don't know if I see spyscum keeping fate in the game for so long
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:47 am

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but fate didn't really push the idea of spyscum hot and heavy until yesterday
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:20 am

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- Sayaka Enchanted Arms Bodyguard - none, SpyreX, Fate, Fate, Fate (failed)
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- Genie - Kingdom Hearts - 1 Shot Global RB (Confirmed)
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- Leliana (Vanilla Townie)
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- Rodrigo Borgia (Modified Bulletproof Godfather)
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- Neku Sakuraba (Neighbor/Co-JOAT): Roleblocked Kdowns Night 1 (Failed), Tracker option, Assumed Cop
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- Sandy Pantz (Vanilla Townie)
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- Nathan Drake (Tracker)
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- Tassadar (Suicide Bomber)
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- Rocket (One-Shot Bus Driver)
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- The Stranger (Backup)
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- Shiki Misaki (Neighbor/Co-JOAT): Roleblocked Kdowns Night 1 (Failed), Tracker option
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- Lord Blazer (Follower) (Fake Claim VT)
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- Purim (Doctor) (No Targets Revealled)

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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:16 am

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Here's some food for thought: Game supposedly contains Town-Rolestopper, Scum-Roleblocker, Town-JOAT Roleblocker, One Shot Global Roleblocker... wait a god-damn minute. Scum-Roleblocker and One-Shot Global Roleblock is 95% likely to be the same role. That means Kdowns is scum (who' of thought) (Sarcasm) and Spyrex is lying scum. Preparing Scenerio #3.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:21 am

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No need to expend on scenerio #3. If Kdowns roleblocked Ray, Kdowns and Spyrex are scum.
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:32 am

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In [url=1533 [/url], Fate wrote:
In [url= 1530[/url], kuribo wrote:
In [url= 1527[/url], Fate wrote:

Like the words SERA is supposed to have


and where the hell is this guy?

that post of Sera's that Fate linked awhile back from that game you all were in was god-damn glorious. it was like reading Sam Fucking Waterston on Law and Order. I'd have voted the fuck out of GreyICE after reading Sera's masterpiece in that game.

but where the hell is the guy now? Where are the impassioned pleas?

I still think he's fucking scum.



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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:19 am

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kdowns wrote:I just don't like the fact that it can lead to a potential mislynch which would be bad for us.

At this point Maru was by far the scummiest player and at L-2, but this reads as if Kdowns knew this was a mislynch already.
kdowns wrote:... I just read Part of One Game of Maruchan's... -FacePalm-

VOTE: Maruchan

Maruchan's self destruction is imminent.

In the course of 8 posts, Kdowns pulls this out of his ass as an excuse to put Maru back at L-2. What the fuck kind of messed up reasoning is this? I just read a part of one of Maru's games so now he's obvscum, when he was a mislynch 8 posts ago?

kdowns wrote:Nah, not scum

Just was voting based off this game so far and his game that I read up to his lynch. There is a huge possibilty that maruchan can be either town or scum but it's really hard to read him at this point. Then again right now anyone could come right by and just hammer him but we don't want that unless we can get a read on him

Holy crap, if this isn't the most obvious fence-sit stance, I don't know what is. Oh and how's the "Oh, Maru can get hammered right not, I hope no one does, WINK WINK"?

kdowns wrote:o_o I do believe I said "It's Really Hard to read him at this point" I did not say I didn't or did think he was scum. While you are preassuring me about it. I did think about unvoting at that time but then someone would of said along the lines " OMG, He unvoted because of pressure he MUST be scum."
I've seen this done many times. If I unvoted right now I'd actually be setting myself up for more questioning also.

Here he re-emphasizes his fence-stance.

kdowns wrote:o_o I do believe I said "It's Really Hard to read him at this point" I did not say I didn't or did think he was scum. While you are preassuring me about it. I did think about unvoting at that time but then someone would of said along the lines " OMG, He unvoted because of pressure he MUST be scum."
I've seen this done many times. If I unvoted right now I'd actually be setting myself up for more questioning also.

If it wasn't clear enough.

kdowns wrote:... How does my post hurt you I was just answering my question about the reasoning behind my vote.

Then again, I do see where you guys are getting at. Hmm... Over Cautious? I think I am playing in a way I think is beneficial to me and the town.

UNVOTE:

Also we do need more time to read Maruchan.

Grey can you explain why you are Buddying up with MoI against me?

Look at me! I'm a good townie!

kdowns wrote:MoI, I NEVER DID SAY wether or not I thought he was scum, I have my own reads that I haven't given out and yet you keep pushing the issue of "me voting someone who I didn't think was scum". I did read one full game of him up untill he was lynched, I read him as Scum and He Flipped Town.


Also Seraphim, Jumping on the Wagon Much?

In case you weren't sure, he's still sitting on the fence about Maru.

kdowns wrote:Claim Time...

I'm Genie from Kingdom Hearts with an ability called Wish: That can Prevent ALL night time abilities even the Mafia Kill.

L-3 claim. L-2 is standard, L-3 is fishy.

kdowns wrote:If you played Kingdom Hearts... You'd know which side Genie was on.

Yeah! Flavor speculate on me guys! I'm a good guy! But as I mentioned before Jafar was also a Genie at one point.

kdowns wrote:VOTE: Maruchan

Can we boil him and then add some flavor to it?

Let's go back to the mislynch that I fence sat about yesterday.

kdowns wrote:Grey, I remember claiming I have the ability, but why would I use it tonight? I rather use it when it matters the most. I'm sorry my posts haven't been as informational as they could be but I rather just watch the other people build cases against each other and give my feedback when I feel it's necessary.

I'm not going to scum hunt okay guys? I'll just parrot other people's cases and bandwagon vote all game okay?

kdowns wrote:I honestly don't know if I will get NKed, I only offered to not use it the first night so the Cops can do there thing so we don't mislynch tomorrow.

Because everyone knows the Day 1 cop investigations with millers and godfathers a plenty are so goddamn helpful!

kdowns wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Meransiel

Yeah a bandwagon! Puts Town Meran at L-3

kdowns wrote:VOTE: Wrath

Ohhh another Bandwagon! Puts Town Wrath at L-3 with NO reasoning

kdowns wrote:Why I think Hiraki is scummy and not scummy at the same exact time. His short posts which lack information regarding the game is alarming but at the same time isn't. Also, the fact about this whole FF7 slip, which I personally don't see as a slip.

Why I think Wrath is scummy is because of his reactions to having a wagon quickly form on him.

Holy crap! Scared to put Hiraki at L-2 or something. Hiraki was fully damned at this point and Kdowns doesn't vote him. I mean seriously look at the garbage in this post, " His short posts which lack information regarding the game is alarming but at the same time isn't" WHAT!?

kdowns wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Hiraki

Oh, you finally figured it out? Hiraki was on a one-way train to lynch-ville, this reads reluctant while his other bandwagon votes read indifferent.

kdowns wrote:VOTE: LLD

Claim time for the scum.

No logic, only bandwagon. Puts Town LLD at L-1.

kdowns wrote:Hi Hiplop

VOTE: Hiplop

Bye Hiplop

No logic only bandwagon. Puts Town Hiplop at L-2.

kdowns wrote:Fate, Shall we Lynch the Scumz together to Victory? <3

Hey Fate can we be friends, I'll talk like I want to bus Scum Maxous, but will never actually vote him.

kdowns wrote:I'm willing to hammer Maxous if I need to.

I'll talk like I want to bus Scum Maxous, but will never actually vote him.

kdowns wrote:Fate, you're just fucking annoying

VOTE: Fate

At this point it was pretty clear that Fate was town, I was even able to get past my doubts of him by this point and I was the main one scrutinizing him.

kdowns wrote:I've stated that I'm willing to hammer Maxous, but for the time being my attention is on Fate.

I'll talk like I want to bus Scum Maxous, but will never actually vote him.

kdowns wrote:I'm not lurking, I just haven't had time to post anything at all.

That's Lurking

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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:20 am

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kuribo wrote:
In [url=1533 [/url], Fate wrote:
In [url= 1530[/url], kuribo wrote:
In [url= 1527[/url], Fate wrote:

Like the words SERA is supposed to have


and where the hell is this guy?

that post of Sera's that Fate linked awhile back from that game you all were in was god-damn glorious. it was like reading Sam Fucking Waterston on Law and Order. I'd have voted the fuck out of GreyICE after reading Sera's masterpiece in that game.

but where the hell is the guy now? Where are the impassioned pleas?

I still think he's fucking scum.



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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:11 am

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I've been thought it was sera, if you recall

I don't like the miller claim combined with lurktacular behavior uncharacteristic of the player.

I do like your case against kdowns, though
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:22 am

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Yeah, I haven't been overly impressed with the Sera case, but the whole Miller wording thing really makes me think he is town. It seems pretty apparent that scum were not given detailed fake-claims if any.
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:23 am

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EWOP: I haven't been overly impressed with Sera. Not his case.
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:21 pm

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Well, I'm off for the Day (RL). I don't feel like leaving my vote unattended though.
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:28 pm

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HEy Kdowns, what's your wincon?
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:49 pm

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I win when all threats to town are eliminated.
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