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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:43 am

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Thomith wrote:^if i am active lurking what is that?


Policy lynching DK only leaves me one vote, and he's making me laugh, so he gets a stay of execution. For now.

Thomith wrote:care to explain how?
Even after my explanation.


Your explanation was essentially "yeah, I'm doing what you all think I'm doing". Acknowledging the fact that you're being opportunistic doesn't make it okay, especially when it takes the form of "hmm, look at that guys, I'm looking at that, you should all look at that!... but I'm gonna be over here with this fence-post lodged firmly up my ass for now."
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:45 am

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lolwut? i am saying that both are null-tells and both do not deserve a vote, that is not being oppertunistic.

Chim it was just to show emp that i am not the only one "active lurking" by his standards.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:04 am

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Thomith wrote:lolwut? it is saying pretty much i have my eye on both as both have null-tells how is that not scumhunting?


For so may reasons.
1. You should have your eye on everyone without saying.
2. You're not making a judgement on their alignments.
3. You're not saying anything that helps you find out their alignment.
4. Why does someone committing null tells make them special?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:20 am

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Empking's Alt wrote:
Zeek wrote:
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Chimaira wrote:
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Unvote: Zeek
Vote: Zeek
- Voting TSG in such a bored opportunistic way.


I wouldn't exactly call it opportunistic. It's a valid point in that the RVS is where the first serious votes spring from, so not participating at this point, while not as bad as, say, refusing to join in with 48 hours left in a day and 2 people at L-2, is still a tad irksome.


The problem isn't the point its the way it came across. He just said it but didn't push it or what have you.


I don't know what else there was to push. Being tsg's first and puportedly last post for several pages seemed voteworthy in and of itself.


If it was voteworthy then you shouldn't have been happy with just one vote.


I was under the impression that I could only put one vote on a person...
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:27 am

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We are not policy lynching, if we were it might not even be DK. But we are not policy lynching since none of the very few that deserve constant D1 death are in this game.

By the way my Haze vote was not RVS. He actually might be scum, I will know for sure after he responds to my question.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:41 am

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And this is an image from Sector 6 in the database, where Chimaira's insignia is encrypted on the walls! And I had to fight hordes and hordes of these things just to deactivate the malicious code that Chimaira was about to install to destroy all human life on Mars!


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This is why I can't sleep at night. And this is also what happened... In the past...
So there you have it. That's why I can never trust Chimaira again.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:47 am

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Norman wrote:And this is an image from Sector 6 in the database, where Chimaira's insignia is encrypted on the walls! And I had to fight hordes and hordes of these things just to deactivate the malicious code that Chimaira was about to install to destroy all human life on Mars!


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This is why I can't sleep at night. And this is also what happened... In the past...
So there you have it. That's why I can never trust Chimaira again.


Is this some in-joke I'm supposed to be in on?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:51 am

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No Chimaira... It's what you did to me, and I'll never... Forget what you did. To all those colonists on there... You turned them into... Trolldemons...
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:04 am

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Day One Vote Count #3


3 Haze (Shiidaji, LlamaFluff, kdowns)
3 Thomith (Empking’s Alt, kdowns, Chimaira)
3 Zeek (Haze, Aim and Ignite, Empking’s Alt)
2 [J] (Lowell, Thomith)
2 kdowns (Shiidaji, Haze)
2 LlamaFluff (FourseenCircumstance, [J])
2 scooby (Zeek, [J])
2 TSGRaaize (Aim and Ignite, Zeek)
1 Aim and Ignite (Norman)
1 Chimaira (Thomith)
1 DeityKabuto (Chimaira)
1 FourseenCircumstance (Lowell)
1 Lowell (FourseenCircumstance)
1 Shiidaji (Norman)

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:17 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:We are not policy lynching, if we were it might not even be DK. But we are not policy lynching since none of the very few that deserve constant D1 death are in this game.

By the way my Haze vote was not RVS. He actually might be scum, I will know for sure after he responds to my question.


Based on previous experience of DK where he has trolled the shit out of a game, been modkilled because of it, and then continued to post AFTER being modkilled, I strongly suggest that DK is the only policy lynch that should be entertained this game. I don't trust him late-game at all. In fact, I don't trust him early game either.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:20 am

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I don't trust anyone in this game... But then again... I never trusted anyone...

Ever since the Mars incident...
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:26 am

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Chimaira, why do you keep bringing up this policy lynch thing? It seems weird to keep insisting it over and over again.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:28 am

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Chimaira wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote:We are not policy lynching, if we were it might not even be DK. But we are not policy lynching since none of the very few that deserve constant D1 death are in this game.

By the way my Haze vote was not RVS. He actually might be scum, I will know for sure after he responds to my question.


Based on previous experience of DK where he has trolled the shit out of a game, been modkilled because of it, and then continued to post AFTER being modkilled, I strongly suggest that DK is the only policy lynch that should be entertained this game. I don't trust him late-game at all. In fact, I don't trust him early game either.


Oh believe me, in three and a half years DK is the only player I have actually modkilled for a rule breach that I can remember. At the same time though, there is one other player in this game who I would consider a policy lynch of at this point for some pretty destructive town play in the past.

Not "trusting" someone is no reason for a policy lynch though. You policy lynch those that are going to be destructive to the extent that they cannot be corraled by us at all, and will deal significant damage to the town no matter what their alignment is. This includes players such as ani, LLD and natirisha (also a few other 'popular' or 'good' players that next to one one agrees on me with but thats a different arguement). I would policy lynch any of them day one outside of them claiming to be mason. DK is not a great player, but from my limited expierence he is able to be kept in check enough so that he isnt a policy lynch.

Still, we dont policy lynch this game. Either way there are serious votes so policy lynch stage is long gone.

Haze is probably a good spot for an early wagon. I dont entirely get his first post but it feels like he is going in a few different directions, which is why I want him answering the questions I have posed
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:30 am

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J wrote:Chimaira, why do you keep bringing up this policy lynch thing? It seems weird to keep insisting it over and over again.


Because DK is, to put it mildly,
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:31 am

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Because he knows what he did to those colonists... He can't let go of the guilt... That's why...
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:32 am

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Zeek wrote:
Empking's Alt wrote:
Zeek wrote:
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Chimaira wrote:

I wouldn't exactly call it opportunistic. It's a valid point in that the RVS is where the first serious votes spring from, so not participating at this point, while not as bad as, say, refusing to join in with 48 hours left in a day and 2 people at L-2, is still a tad irksome.


The problem isn't the point its the way it came across. He just said it but didn't push it or what have you.


I don't know what else there was to push. Being tsg's first and puportedly last post for several pages seemed voteworthy in and of itself.


If it was voteworthy then you shouldn't have been happy with just one vote.


I was under the impression that I could only put one vote on a person...


You can campaign for more people to vote your target.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:32 am

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Norman wrote:Because he knows what he did to those colonists... He can't let go of the guilt... That's why...


Please contribute something to the game without being prompted.

Does your vote have anything to do with tells?
What do you think of Thomith?
What do you think of Haze?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:48 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:
Norman wrote:Because he knows what he did to those colonists... He can't let go of the guilt... That's why...


Please contribute something to the game without being prompted.

Does your vote have anything to do with tells?
What do you think of Thomith?
What do you think of Haze?


1. I only vote for people who I deem suspicious to my own mind.
2. I don't know, but he might be a scumbag.
3. Furthermore idk, but he might a scumbag.

Besides Llama... You don't know what it's like... Being a civilian with no military experience on a foreign planet inhabited by demons, zombies, and evil hackers (Chimaira...). It's like Hell... You wouldn't know...
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:49 am

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empking's alt wrote:You can campaign for more people to vote your target.


I really don't see how. He made one somewhat shifty post, which i made a counter point to. I could continue reiterating my counterpoint, scream, and point my finger at him whilest waving my arms to get everyones attention, but i don't find it a good idea really. Tsg's comment sounded anti-town, but whether that is scummy or just a rotten first foot out the door i can't tell. I was hoping my vote and post would encourage him to join the discussion sooner. I just want him in the game so i can get a better read on him.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:55 am

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Llamafluff, you seem adamant on defending DK as not being a policy lynch? Same question sort of to you that I poised Chimaira. You seem really hard set on no PLs. You suggest Haze as a candidate but I know more about why not DK then why Haze over DK. Can you explain that more in detail then?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:58 am

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so you are expecting people to have scum or town reads at this point in the game empking?
What you seem to be saying to me.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:03 am

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I really like Zeek's 68. It rings really well to me.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:11 am

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[J] wrote:Llamafluff, you seem adamant on defending DK as not being a policy lynch? Same question sort of to you that I poised Chimaira. You seem really hard set on no PLs. You suggest Haze as a candidate but I know more about why not DK then why Haze over DK. Can you explain that more in detail then?


I am not saying to policy lynch Haze. I think Haze is a good pick for early pressure.

Policy lynches are essentially a quickly lynch someone who will hurt the town basically every time as town through poor play. DK is not that bad of a player, so we do not policy lynch him, just keep him in check. Not going to argue that he is a good player, but I do not want a policy lynch of him at all.

What is your stance on DK?

@Norman - Convince me Chim is scum without bringing up anything roleplay-y.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:13 am

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I didn't say you wanted to policy lynch but you said that you think Haze would be a good one for people to have an early wagon on.

I know what a PL is. =P I also got you didn't want to lynch DK with that bellicose amount of reasoning as to why to keep him. My stance on DK is I don't know anything about him nor do I recall any posts of his when the name is brought up.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:15 am

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J wrote:I really like Zeek's 68. It rings really well to me.

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