The Aftermath - Victors Announced

[Pine]

I was in a hydra with C-Worl that game. Name was C-Tree. Pay attention. If you'd been looking at the game with any context, you'd have figured that out right away. Instead, you looked only at an ISO and made no attempt to understand, merely desiring to use it to prop up a decision you'd already made.

I have always in the past had difficulty reading DGB. This time, however, I picked up on her scumminess right away. So where's the disconnect?

And what kind of failure to react "appropriately" to her fakeclaim did I make? I'm well aware that she sometimes gambits as Town, but I don't see that as what's going on here. Her whole interaction with Rhinox seems artificial, and the Mason fakeclaim was a genuine attempt to bail out a drowning scumbuddy. When it was revealed as deception, she tried to laugh it off with another gambit, relying on her meta of gambits to shield her.

Not this time.

[Rhinox]

Still intending to switch unless ppretty much everyone demands i dont. Its not just me vs elli, you guys can still lynch him afteri switch. I dont want to not switch even if you guys ask me not to and then here later on SURELY IT WAS JUST A PLOY TO GET PEOPLE OFF YOUR WAGON YOU HADNO INTENTION OF. SWITCHING DID YOU RHINOX HUH SCUM????? Or kept around as lynchbait for lylo WELL I GUESS IT WAS RHINOX ALL ALONG.

[Zdenek]

Pine, I looked at the player list, I didn't see your name, so I assumed that you'd replaced in and the mod didn't update the list, so I iso'd you and saw 17 posts. I really didn't care to look into it any further.

The disconnect is between you saying that you have a hard time reading DGB indicates that you've played with her a lot and your reaction to the mason claim, which indicates that you haven't.

The problem I had with your reaction, is that someone who has played with DGB a lot or read a lot of her games probably wouldn't have immediately thought that she's scum for fake claiming masons.

All this said, I'm now pretty sure that Pine is town.

[Zdenek]

As far as the Rhinox switching with Elli thing goes: the flavor for the kill last night suggests that it's not necessarily a scum kill, so I'm not writing off the possibility that Spyrex is scum and if Elli flips scum that would go a long way to making me think that Spyrex is town. I don't think that there is a an obviously better chance of Rhinox flipping scum than Elli.

[springlullaby]

Vote shattered viewpoint

Why are you voting me?

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Because hoopster made a (reasonably) good case.

I'll post more words later this weekend.

[DrippingGoofball]

Updated pronouncements:

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Sociopath
Hinduragi
Pine
SpyreX
Kuribo
Kublai Khan
Rhinox
Chunkykev
My Milked Eek/Hoppster

LEANING TOWN

Sleepless Assassin
springlullaby

NOT LEANING

Zdenek
elvis_knits

SCUM

Fate
malthusis/Seraphim >>> Seraphim is as scum as malthusis, but maybe his terrible scumdar is throwing me off.
Shattered Viewpoint
Elli
RECK
Grimmjow
Lowell >>> earlier town read not sustained.

Changes:

Rhinox

is town,

elvis

is less town for enthusiasm deficit,

chunkykev

moves to town,

Seraphim

doesn't redeem his scum player slot,

Hoppster

improves his lurker slot all the way into town territory

[xRECKONERx]

vote dgb

[Pine]

Dammit, Reck. Control your "ooh shiny" reflex. Rhinox first.

[Fate]

OH GUESS IM BACK TO SCUM NOW ARENT I DGB

GOD

YOURE TRYING TO PAINT MEA S YOU FUCKING SCUMBUDDY

THIS GAME

[DrippingGoofball]

That's not news, I moved you to scum

Post #789 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:48 pm

[Fate]

*whacks the pinata*

I HEARD THERE WERE DELICIOUS FABRICATED REASONS INSIDE!

[kuribo]

DGB's "Scumputer" printouts feel more like Voodoo Scumhunting.

[kuribo]

And what kind of failure to react "appropriately" to her fakeclaim did I make? I'm well aware that she sometimes gambits as Town, but I don't see that as what's going on here. Her whole interaction with Rhinox seems artificial, and the Mason fakeclaim was a genuine attempt to bail out a drowning scumbuddy.

Pine, you are the worst at this. There's no way she ever intended that to be serious. Even I know that. And I'm paranoid as hell about everyone ever.

[kuribo]

Vote shattered viewpoint

Why are you voting me?

Why him specifically? Why don't you question the motives of anyone else on your wagon?

[kuribo]

Also really ironic since you two were so buddy-buddy about wanting me out of the game because of my potty-mouth and misuse of quote tags.

And even more ironic since spring said that the exchange with me made SV look more town.

So what made him look less town? Voting you?

[kuribo]

As far as the Rhinox switching with Elli thing goes: the flavor for the kill last night suggests that it's not necessarily a scum kill, so I'm not writing off the possibility that Spyrex is scum and if Elli flips scum that would go a long way to making me think that Spyrex is town. I don't think that there is a an obviously better chance of Rhinox flipping scum than Elli.

If anyone's up in the air about Rhinox or Elli being scum, and can't decide which, they should probably just let Elli's organs get harvested since a scum flip there would help some insight toward SpyreX.

[Pine]

Agreed. If Ellibereth flips scum, it pretty much clears Spyrex, barring bus driver or other funky mechanics. If Elli flips Town, eh. No big loss, null in regards to Spyrex.

[Fate]

NO BIG LOSS IF ELLIE FLIPS TOWN?

WE LOSE

FUCKING

ELLI

SOMEONE THAT SCUM WOULD HAVE TO NK AT SOME POINT

[kuribo]

Agreed. If Ellibereth flips scum, it pretty much clears Spyrex, barring bus driver or other funky mechanics. If Elli flips Town, eh. No big loss, null in regards to Spyrex.

oh no it fucking doesn't


DON'T FALL INTO THAT FUCKING TRAP OF THINKING SPYREX IS CONFIRMED

[kuribo]

NO BIG LOSS IF ELLIE FLIPS TOWN?

WE LOSE

FUCKING

ELLI

SOMEONE THAT SCUM WOULD HAVE TO NK AT SOME POINT

Fate, you've played with Elli more than I have. He's lurking alot.

Is he town?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB's "Scumputer" printouts feel more like Voodoo Scumhunting.

Whoooooooooooaa

That's not the scumputer, that's the Day 1 Goofball Index.

I don't usually fire up the scumputer until Day 3!

This is what the scumputer look likes:

[DrippingGoofball]

NO BIG LOSS IF ELLIE FLIPS TOWN?

WE LOSE

FUCKING

ELLI

SOMEONE THAT SCUM WOULD HAVE TO NK AT SOME POINT

Fate, you've played with Elli more than I have. He's lurking alot.

Is he town?

I've HYDRA'd with Elli, he's not town.

[Pine]

Consider: there's only scum vs Town, so we can rule out SK or multiple scum teams. Scum doesn't kill scum, not even for WIFOM. Ergo, if Elli flips scum, Spyrex is confirmed, barring redirection mechanics.

And Ellibereth has done jack this game, Fate. You aren't being objective.

[kuribo]

Spyrex is confirmed, barring redirection mechanics.

NO HE FUCKING ISN'T