Open 337: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[DeltaWave]

DW - evaluate your play and how it differs from Fakinha's, and how your play makes you town while Fakinha's play makes him scum.

I had a case, and my case was legitimate even though neil flipped town. His suboptimal townplay is what led to his lynch, which is unfortunate and regrettable but that was more of a problem on his end. On the other hand, Fakinha did not have a case and just sort of jumped on.

[Thomas]

Wow neil's flip makes Isa look bad and I really thought neil was scum with the way he was acting. I will probably iso Isa at a later date but from what I remember, one post by neil gave Isa a town read on neil the rest of the time neil was alive. On day 2 though I believe Isa said his town read wasn't as strong. So I will try to decide if that was buddying or not now that I have seen neil's flip. Fakinha is scummy, Delta null and where's bv????? http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts Apparently talking about halloween costumes is more important than this game. How can anyone get a read on him if he's not gonna post today and only posted what? Three? Four? times on D2.

[Fakinha]

Sad game is sad... after the fail Neil wagon, I'm a little desmotivated... and Delta, even being a wrong wagon, I started it, YOU jumped on it. Don't try to change the way things happened.

VOTE: Isa

Best option for the day. If anyone have a better idea, feel free to say.

[Isa]

Thomas, are you serious? Would I look better if Neil flipped scum?

Anyway, Fakinha...you're digging your own grave.

VOTE: Fakinha
This is now a 1v1. Your only "case" on me is that the person I didn't mislynch the person you mislynched.

[DeltaWave]

Sad game is sad... after the fail Neil wagon, I'm a little desmotivated... and Delta, even being a wrong wagon, I started it, YOU jumped on it. Don't try to change the way things happened.

VOTE: Isa

Best option for the day. If anyone have a better idea, feel free to say.

The first to vote isn't always the first to start the bandwagon. I created the case that got him lynched.

Besides, what benefit is it for me to misrep that? Either way you didn't have much of a case for your vote.

[Fakinha]

ok then, I just joined the wagon (not me, but who cares? people are trying to lynch me). Then I feel a little better now, thanks.

[Thomas]

Mod: Prod bv310 please.

[Isa]

Mod: REPLACE bv310.

Thomas, why is Delta null? Also, I ask you again to say why I look scummy because Neil flipped town - you imply that I wouldn't if he'd flip scum.

[DeltaWave]

I just realized something.

There's 5 people left, which means that 2 have to be scum. This proves to me that Fakhina is scum.

I don't know Isa's alignment, but I know my own, and it's town. Even if Isa was scum, if Fakhina was town then the scum could easily quickhammer and win the game. But they haven't. This is complete proof to me that I'm right. Woo woo!

[Isa]

Uh, while I /do/ support you voting Fakinha (though you're not at the moment), you might wanna rethink what you just posted, because it doesn't make sense to me.

[DeltaWave]

Uh, while I /do/ support you voting Fakinha (though you're not at the moment), you might wanna rethink what you just posted, because it doesn't make sense to me.

There are 5 players, 3 to lynch.
This means that there cannot be 3 scum, there must be 2 or else the game would be over.
I am town.
I am voting for Fakhina, who is at L-1.
If Fakhina was town, that would mean that even if Isa was scum, there is still one scum out there who is not voting for Fakhina.
Therefore, Fakhina is scum because if Fakhina was town, scum would have lynched Fakhina already and won the game.

[DeltaWave]

Ughhh disregard my above post, I thought I was voting for Fakhina but I wasn't. I'm really out of it right now due to a headache.

[Fakinha]

So you saying Isa and Bv are scum?

[DeltaWave]

Nope. I was going down a line of thought that was incorrect because I wasn't voting for you.

[Fakinha]

Btw it's a good way of thought, but this game is frozen. Not surprised if it took a day for the scum to hammer me. Now, judging for yout commentary I presume you're in fact a town. Bv's replacement could save the town...

[Isa]

Thomas, stop trying to skate by. Activate yourself.

DeltaWave, how sure of Fakinhascum are you?

[Thomas]

Why isn't bv

prodded

replaced yet?

Thomas, why is Delta null?

If you're asking me why I don't have him as town or scum then he's more pro-town than all other players including you and but it's lylo so I can't clear him as town too easily so I have put him as null.

Also, I ask you again to say why I look scummy because Neil flipped town - you imply that I wouldn't if he'd flip scum.

You would look bad no matter what neil flips I suppose which is why having a strong town read on neil is bad no matter what your alignment is. What makes you look scummy from neil's flip is that you have a town read on him after many suspicious things he did so it looked like buddying and scum can use it for town credits.

[DeltaWave]

DeltaWave, how sure of Fakinhascum are you?

72.8% sure

I think what I need to do is some analysis of the first couple days to bring that number up to 80%

[Fakinha]

So you're only thinking of getting more and more scum possibility of me? I'm town, I was convinced that Neil was scum. His defense was pretty fail with no good argumentantion as you, more than anyone, said. We lynched neil thiking we could finally get a scum. In the end, fuck, he wasn't.
But if you look, why did Isa always defend him w/o any good reason? (If there was a good reason, show it for me) She KNEW he was townie and now is going after me because I started the wagon and didn't show any really convincing points, what's wrong and will lead the town to destruction. In this situation I'd say Isa and Bv are scum, Isa clung to Neil's so she could get town-cred and Bv... well, can't say much, aside first day he argued with Neil... but since I don't get scum-vibes for Thomas and I think you're more pro-town than pro-scum, he's the only one possible.

[DeltaWave]

Because this vote is crucial, I will not tunnel.

[Isa]

Fakinha: I haven't gotten ANY town-cred for defending Neil. Not during day 1, not during day 2, not during day 3. I defended Neil because I didn't think he was as likely to be scum as you/DeltaWave, NOT because of potential town-cred. I mean, it was pretty obvious all along that everyone attacked me for taking his side. If I was scum and wanted your town-cred, I'd turn around slowly and join the bandwagon.

Neil had great defenses to your attacks that you, DW and Thomas mainly ignored. I've played with Thomas earlier and I know that he loves his buzz words such as "WIFOM" and "OMGUS" without thinking more about it. I did expect something more from you and DW though, but it was a lot of the same. "NO THAT'S OMGUS LOL" seemed to be all that went through DW's head - I don't know what went through yours though seeing as you were happy to just coast by and let DW take all the questions from me, Neil and Collyer. The most amusing part is this though:

Post a lot, people

You tell us to post more, when YOU were the one skating by with low activity and not explaining your case?

[SigmaEXE003]

Prodding bv310, and also immediately seeking his replacement.

[SigmaEXE003]

And HermanoBro replaces bv310. Please welcome him to the game.

[DeltaWave]

Welcome to the game Hermano!

[HermanoBro]

Hey, will read and post by tomorrow