New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[Thor665]

I'll insert my grumbling at that fatlikeapig lynch here - if I'd been around that gak would not have gone down as easy. The heck guys?

I'm mildly surprised pacman was scum - though he was being useless so probably the egg is on my face (and Oversoul's if he's town) on that one.

@mastin - fair to midland though I think you always think you're more clever than you are and usually take you with a handful of sodium an consider it a wise move. Why, what's your magical obvious certainty today?

@Oversoul - I'm in multiple games with him currently and I think my mind is muddled - why is NS less likely SK than mastin now? I thought yesterday mastin was your sweet, sweet lover. Has NS been cleared by something I forgot, or did mastin do something gakky I missed?

[redFF]

honestly read the thread all ive been is transparent town.

[redFF]

i still dont see why oversoul is town. but since we have 1 scum and 5 town, we have some time to kill. 6p today lynch someone, 4p tomorrow nolynch, and then 3p.

i still don't see how oversoul is conf town. Doesn't a neighborhood with scum/sk/town make sense? also a neighborhood full of scum is kind of contradictory, you know what else contradicts, OXYMORONS.

that said i dont think anyone is going to lynch oversoul lol.

so with that VOTE: empking

he hasnt done jack shit all game and is my no1 choice for sk because apparently im an idiot for suspecting oversoul. mastin is weird too, he found scum but hes sk so hes perfectly fine doing that. his sk hunting since the scum all died has been nonexistant and unsuccessful.

[redFF]

oversoul could you post all of epm's tracks?

[Thor665]

Oversoul isn't conf. town. He's conf. not mafia - do try to keep up.
I'm the conf. town unless you all think I'm Watcher/Voyeur SK still (Emp? )

[redFF]

thor what do you think of a scum/sk/town neighborhood.

[Thor665]

I've already stated my thoughts on that.
I could buy it.

So you're saying the SK killed the tracker who tracked you in order to frame you?

[redFF]

who said anything bout framing?

[Thor665]

Basically everyone voting you - reading between the lines.
Why, what did you think the case on you was? I must have missed it.

[redFF]

but the tracker never claimed a track on me?

[Thor665]

I claimed the tracker tracked you - are you really reading so iffy that you're not even noting in claims when you're listed as the target of a power?
What do you think the case on you is? (I'm about to vote you just for being a brick wall at this stage).

[Oversoul]

Hey, Thor.
Oversoul.

How much do you trust me?

I have to leave for a couple hours, but I need an answer to this question before the day ends. It's quite important.

I still value you as a very town player, but there is just something in the back of my mind, like a constant, dull tapping noise.

The Pine kill

was

strange. I thought of one scenario where it wouldn't be strange, though. The fact that you and Pine hydra together. Pine would be able to decipher your play, and if you were the SK you would be exhibiting different play styles. Pine would surely have picked up on that. So my hypothesis is that Pine was not killed so much for being Mafia, but for being ... Pine.

In addition, your brute force lynch on Fatlikepig yesterday was very unbecoming of you. I have seen you do a similar thing in which you were *absolutely* sure that Ludi was scum in Sexy Sedilla. Perhaps that lynch was contrived and you simply wanted to remove another town power role from the game. I don't know.

And then again, when you said you *knew* who was going to be killed (it was quite obvious it was going to be EPM, the Xeras kill was most likely a kill in search of the tracker) and that you knew who was going to be the next lynch, the next kill, and so on and so forth. It looked very premeditated and quite frankly creepy that you would say something like that. Only people who can physically control those aspects are likely to say that in my opinion. Although, I am curious as to why you said it... I have one thought that makes you town for doing it.

I'll insert my grumbling at that fatlikeapig lynch here - if I'd been around that gak would not have gone down as easy. The heck guys?

I'm mildly surprised pacman was scum - though he was being useless so probably the egg is on my face (and Oversoul's if he's town) on that one.

@mastin - fair to midland though I think you always think you're more clever than you are and usually take you with a handful of sodium an consider it a wise move. Why, what's your magical obvious certainty today?

@Oversoul - I'm in multiple games with him currently and I think my mind is muddled - why is NS less likely SK than mastin now? I thought yesterday mastin was your sweet, sweet lover. Has NS been cleared by something I forgot, or did mastin do something gakky I missed?

EPM didn't flip scum... Are you sure you are playing the same game?

While I agree that Mastin does view highly of himself, it is often for good reason. I take it you attribute his play yesterday to that self view and not an ulterior motive?

I've explained why I am somewhat more suspicious of Mastin today compared to NS. Although realistically, both players can be switched around at will on that list.

honestly read the thread all ive been is transparent town.

Resorting to self meta like this is not the way to go. I do attribute tells like this to town though as it would be suicidal for scum to say that they have been townie all game. It is a reverse meta psychology that I use and so far it has caught me two scum across two games.

oversoul could you post all of epm's tracks?

Certainly.

Tracked Xeras Night 2, did not go anywhere
Tracked redFF Night 3, did not go anywhere
Tracked Mastin Night 4, did not go anywhere
Tracked Empking Night 5, did not go anywhere
Tracked Oversoul Night 6, did not go anywhere

I find it odd that you think I am the SK because of the neighborhood aspect, but trust me enough to post these results.

He didn't track anyone the first night because the hydra failed and the game was in cryostasis. Needless to say, I was pretty mad when he lied to me about tracking Empking or Fatlikepig on Night 6 so he could satisfy his damn paranoia.

What kind of sense does it make to include an SK in a neighborhood with a Jailkeeper, Tracker, and a Mafia Goon? None.

thor what do you think of a scum/sk/town neighborhood.

I still don't understand why you are going down this road when it is sufficiently clear that I cannot be the mother fucking SK. Shit like this is why you are so high on my SK likelyhood list.

Basically everyone voting you - reading between the lines.
Why, what did you think the case on you was? I must have missed it.

That is definitely not the reason *I* voted for redFF. Why do you think it is framing, unless you yourself thought of the framing in the first place?

Everyone so far is giving me god damn suspicions and it is frustrating as all hell.

[Thor665]

@Oversoul - I blame the mod choosing red as his base color.

So, by your stated Tracker info.

Why is Empking so high on your suspect list considering the track?

[redFF]

meh the tracker didn't see me go anywhere so we're back to square 1.

[Thor665]

By that logic the SK is me or NS. That's not square one.

[redFF]

or we could have a ninja

[Oversoul]

When there are competing power roles of different factions that are both negated by a single modifier, I think that points towards Ninja. Plus, Ninja is actually a common choice for SK modification in Large Normals these days.

[redFF]

What kind of sense does it make to include an SK in a neighborhood with a Jailkeeper, Tracker, and a Mafia Goon? None.

not much, you could even say it's an









OXYMORON

[Oversoul]

That's just bastard mod in itself. This is a normal game for god's sake.

[mastin2]

Why, what's your magical obvious certainty today?

The thing is.

I'm pretty sure I know who the serial killer is.

Yet...how can I express my feelings on it? It's...complicated. redFF is a wild-card. He's causing me to doubt the SK-read I have. So, uh. Put bluntly. I kinda want to lynch him, even though I'm not sure he's scum. Because if he flips town, all my doubt would be removed.

And if we lynch redFF and I'm right that he's town...well, you'll bite the bullet. And I want to know: do you trust me to win a lylo? 'Cause that's what tomorrow will be. Okay, no, so it'll actually be 4P mylo, but we'd no-lynch then, and *spoilers* would die, leaving us in 3P lylo. With me, *spoilers*, and *spoilers*. And this is my only chance to ask you, if you think I can do it. And also, that you don't think it is me. I need to know that you trust me enough to win.

As for

I still value you as a very town player, but there is just something in the back of my mind, like a constant, dull tapping noise.

That's as much as I need to hear from you. Thanks.


Now as NS unvoted, I don't think there's any harm in this.

Vote: redFF

. Sorry, man.

[Thor665]

Why are you voting an uncertainty and not the person you "know" is the SK?
Seriously now...

[mastin2]

Like I said. It's...
I have...no words to describe it.
It's like I know who the serial killer is...and have that image in my mind, but...
...That I can't accept it.

As if it's something which logically makes sense, but which I can't wrap my head around. Like something which I should be following, but...don't want to. That I know who it is, yet...have a doubt about it.

I wish I could describe it. But I...really can't. It's like I said. If redFF is lynched and flips town, I'm quite sure my doubt will be removed. It's just that...well...I can't really voice it.

Call it logic versus gut if you must. Logically, I have a clear picture, and have predicted exactly how things will play out. But...this...
...whatever it is...
...Makes me not want to follow it.

I know it doesn't make sense. But...it's the way things are. Sorry that I can't explain it better. It's...a concept I'm not sure how to communicate.

[redFF]

what in the actual fuck

[Thor665]

@Mastin - no, I don't trust you.

[Nobody Special]

I just have to say, I've never seen mastin at a

loss for words.

Bizarre.