Animal Rescue: petsPick (Game Over!)

[xRECKONERx]

Mod: my question?

[zoraster]

Mod: my question?

Mod: is it possible for a person to have more than one pet in their role?

Sorry, missed it first time around. It's possible that someone will have more than one pet.

[Amrun]

Yes.

Disregarding your leading question and distortion.

what about my question was leading or distorting?

Phrasing and intent. You couched it in a way to make my point seem bad without actually addressing any way that it was bad.

[Untrod Tripod]

Yes.

Disregarding your leading question and distortion.

what about my question was leading or distorting?

Phrasing and intent. You couched it in a way to make my point seem bad without actually addressing any way that it was bad.

ok. what's the pro-town motivation to letting a potential vig kill himself tonight?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Save a lynch, duh.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

(And not disappointing Pie.)

[glowball]

oh goodness am I missing something? WHERE did he claim VIG?

[Amrun]

Save a lynch, duh.

This, obviously.

I don't understand, UT. You want to lynch him so that he doesn't kill himself overnight?

[xRECKONERx]

oh goodness am I missing something? WHERE did he claim VIG?

[VP Baltar]

oh goodness am I missing something? WHERE did he claim VIG?

check his claim post. You'll thank me later.

[glowball]

Mmkay as "funny" as that is, it's not helpful but whatever Reck, be a dick.

NINJA'D

Spoiler: Lewachers Claim

I have re-read my ISO and I really don't understand the case on me.

Well, Vi: appear self-confident and everyone will think you know what you are doing, huh? This is the most unfounded and quickest wagon I have ever seen

.

Fine. This is my full claim.

I am Mao-Tse-Tung, and I am a

town assassin cat

. Each night I can decide to visit a player. If that player has a cat, I will kill him. If that player has a dog, I will die. The flavour is connected with the real biography of my former cat Mao, who was killed by a dog.

In order to avoid a short day 1 and a stupid mislynch, I will accept to do as follows:

You unvote me, and tonight I will visit someone who will claim to have a dog (no full claim required, any dog will do). By doing that, I will be dead and flipped on the morning of day 2. You will quit wasting your time tunneling me, I will be dead anyway and today we can go on playing and discussing other cases. Despite Vi's tunneling, we might end up lynching someone who is actually scum. Also: I will get more time to analize the wagon on me and leave a legacy of reads.

I know it's weird, but it's the only strategy occurring to me.

Nothing in there says "vig" it just says he kills or gets killed. Aside from the kill factor nothing is even slightly "vigish". It's weak rolecop at best. I mean it's pretty obv that he's third party especially considering his claim says NOTHING about hamsters and rodents can be pets. WHAT THEN?!?!?!?!

[Amrun]

Um, what?

[xRECKONERx]

Aside from the kill factor nothing is even slightly "vigish"

what

glowball

you're not...

there's no way...

[Sotty7]

Oh dear...

Any role that claims to be able to kill another player can be generally referred to as a vig. Yes he hasn't claimed that he is a straight up vig, but to say he is a strange kinda role cop is just all sorts of wrong.

Role cops don't kill people.

Vigs kill people.

[Untrod Tripod]

serial killers and mafia also kill people. but with that claim there's no way he's an SK.

listen, I think that particular role is worth keeping alive, but I think that with his plan of "so I'll kill myself overnight" we don't really gain anything. I think we either collectively say "ok, fine, we'll accept that you're probably town" or we lynch him now. advocating that a town read commit suicide for no reason other than to prove that he was town is...uh...insane.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

No, it saves us a lynch. Next thing you'll say we shouldn't mass claim D1.

[Amrun]

Except no one is advocating that...

If he's town, it's a humongous waste of a lynch. If he's scum, we'll know by the end of the night.

It's a really dumb lynch either way.

[xRECKONERx]

serial killers and mafia also kill people. but with that claim there's no way he's an SK.

listen, I think that particular role is worth keeping alive, but I think that with his plan of "so I'll kill myself overnight" we don't really gain anything. I think we either collectively say "ok, fine, we'll accept that you're probably town" or we lynch him now. advocating that a town read commit suicide for no reason other than to prove that he was town is...uh...insane.

unless he's a SK that only needs all cats in the game dead or something
which is a very zoraster like thing to put in the game

[Kublai Khan]

serial killers and mafia also kill people. but with that claim there's no way he's an SK.

listen, I think that particular role is worth keeping alive, but I think that with his plan of "so I'll kill myself overnight" we don't really gain anything. I think we either collectively say "ok, fine, we'll accept that you're probably town" or we lynch him now. advocating that a town read commit suicide for no reason other than to prove that he was town is...uh...insane.

unless he's a SK that only needs all cats in the game dead or something
which is a very zoraster like thing to put in the game

This. *AT BEST* he's a third party (assuming he isn't lying out his ass to begin with) who has no impetus to help find scum and can (& will) eliminate town.

If he's town, it's a humongous waste of a lynch. If he's scum, we'll know by the end of the night.

*Next Day*
Lewarcher82: "Gosh, I'm still alive. I don't know what happened, Mafia must have either roleblocked me or maybe glowball was lying about her dog-claim."

[VP Baltar]

Why would his role PM say nothing about people with multiple animals? or people with animals besides dogs and cats?

That's what's getting me.

[Sotty7]

Multiple animals is a sticker, but pets other than cats or dogs would just result in nothing happening surely?

I still think the biggest thing is that he asked for

another

dog claim when we already had one.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

*Next Day*
Lewarcher82: "Gosh, I'm still alive. I don't know what happened, Mafia must have either roleblocked me or maybe glowball was lying about her dog-claim."

And then he gets lynched. Lynching him D2 instead of D1 is not particularly meaningful.

[xRECKONERx]

Why would his role PM say nothing about people with multiple animals? or people with animals besides dogs and cats?

That's what's getting me.

because he's lying?

[Kublai Khan]

*Next Day*
Lewarcher82: "Gosh, I'm still alive. I don't know what happened, Mafia must have either roleblocked me or maybe glowball was lying about her dog-claim."

And then he gets lynched. Lynching him D2 instead of D1 is not particularly meaningful.

A lot of my reads right now depend on what lewarcher82 flips.

[Amrun]

*Next Day*Lewarcher82: "Gosh, I'm still alive. I don't know what happened, Mafia must have either roleblocked me or maybe glowball was lying about her dog-claim."

a) Then we lynch him, most likely.

b) If he tried to kill dog-glowball, he would die...