Cyclic Experimentation Set x02 - [Game Over]

[chkflip]

@Chkflip

- It's basically 24 hours to deadline. Your 'case' on Fourseen isn't anything that hasn't been hashed out already. If people believed he was scum based on your reasoning he'd be dead already.

Why are you FOS-ing Furc when your vote is useless currently and Furc is one of the two viable wagons?

Fair enough. I'm just expressing my opinion on that particular Furc post. I would be comfortable voting Furc when it gets closer to deadline if a Fourseen wagon is completely impossible today. Seems it pretty much may be, so I'll be switching my vote. Just showing that I'd prefer a Furc lynch over a Ghostlin lynch for sure.

[EtherealCookie]

Deadline is coming close. Either a Furcolow lynch or Ghostlin lynch, so I've re-read their isos. Furcolow's claim was stupid, but it doesn't necessarily make him some third party. Ghostlin's wagon has a much stronger case, however, I'd like to clear up the void thing. The vanilla townie description says Void and then states the player has no powers at the current time, I believe. I feel like he hasn't even read his PM that well though, given his odd comparison of it to

The Void.

Honestly, I'm not convinced on the scum nature of either, and would rather encourage a second look at Fourseen, who has been highly anti-town and rife of scum behavior when analyzing his voting patterns and actual reasoning. I don't want this to go into a no-lynch, however, and believe that Ghostlin is the better choice of the day if I have to narrow it down to the two. Given there's less than 24 hours, this seems like the best vote for town:

UNVOTE

VOTE: Ghostlin

[MagnaofIllusion]

I would be comfortable voting Furc when it gets closer to deadline if a Fourseen wagon is completely impossible today.

Deadline is in less than 24 hours. How much closer to that time do you need to get before deciding your two man wagon isn't viable?

[SlySly]

Ghostlin's wagon has a much stronger case

Could you please briefly summarize this case?

[chkflip]

You act like it's going to be completely impossible to achieve lynch due to

my

vote. Why aren't you bitching at Magister Ludi about his one-man wagon? Furc and Ghostlin aren't even on his radar ffs. Stop being ridiculous. I'm still giving both wagons looks, I'm still looking at the ISO's, and I want to make the most informed decision before switching my vote.

Still over 23 hours, man. I'll be here. I'll switch my vote when I feel like I've come to the best conclusion.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You act like it's going to be completely impossible to achieve lynch due to my vote. Why aren't you bitching at Magister Ludi about his one-man wagon? Furc and Ghostlin aren't even on his radar ffs. Stop being ridiculous. I'm still giving both wagons looks, I'm still looking at the ISO's, and I want to make the most informed decision before switching my vote.

Oh, I'm sorry ... I'm not allowed to question you because?

Clearly you aren't really reading since Ludi had his vote on Ghostlin after the shot by Kdub. A little bit of "Hey, look over here at this person" gone wrong perchance.

I'm holding you personally responsable for your stances. Your slot has been very inactive most of the day. You don't like the attention? Can't help you there.

[chkflip]

I don't care about the attention, I just don't understand it.

lols clearly I'm going off of Ludi's most recent post. Ghostlin has seemingly dropped off his radar entirely, unless I'm misreading and those are simply new editions. Doesn't really read that way to me, though:

New and improved Ludi scum reads:

Go ahead, try to misconstrue what I said incorrectly again.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'll have to read back and see if you were this Newbtastically defensive in X01 Chk.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'll have to read back and see if you were this Newbtastically defensive in X01 Chk.

[warriormode]

Out of the two wagons

Vote: Ghostlin

for sure.

Mainly because I thought one of Workdawg and Toogelloo had to be scum when they were on my wagon.
I also noticed that Workdawg hopped around the top wagons al lot which I didn't like and they way he did it too.
It looked like Workdawg wasn't even making reads or committing to anything really.
Ghostlin obviously played a little better but the slot in general to me was scummy.

[Bunnylover]

@MoI: Why can't the hider ability be roleblocked? The first night it can be blocked (since its claimed), the others it will be more random. Also if the hider ability hits scum, they can block it the next night as well. Not only did you forgot about someone claim about having the power to stop a person passing their ability.
Edit: Nevermind, power been removed so far.

Yay so much content I'm giving in this catch-up <_<.
I don't agree with MoI saying DGB is scum if Ghostlin flips scum.
I agree more with DGB at the moment, Furclow ISO just reads third party to me.

Vote: Furclow

[MagnaofIllusion]

@MoI: Why can't the hider ability be roleblocked? The first night it can be blocked (since its claimed), the others it will be more random. Also if the hider ability hits scum, they can block it the next night as well. Not only did you forgot about someone claim about having the power to stop a person passing their ability.
Edit: Nevermind, power been removed so far.

The standard Hider (per Wiki) cannot be roleblocked or targeted with any abilities while Hiding. And Stringer’s explanation indicates that his Role description matches the standard role.

[Ghostlin]

The point in Ghostlin claiming that he didn't have a power, which would mean that he is claiming that he is VT without straight out coming and saying he was VT seemed like he was trying to make it look like it wasn't going to be one of those "oh he is VT so that is a safe lynch vote" why would You disguise it with the fancy wording of you didn't come into the game with a power instead of saying you are a VT? It could be possible that he has other conditions that grants him powers as he progressees like a survivor like trait this is where I am drawing my suspicion.

There's a glitch in your thinking here. I think I'll just come out and say it. Why would you lynch me as a Survivor over someone that would hurt your wincon, such as a SK or a Mafia member?

So you are saying you aren't VT? MOAR VOTES on Ghostlin....

Furclow has a useful cylce role that can be useful to town tonight, so we let him cycle it then kill him tmmrw.

Wow, you and MoI are just all over the misreps today. Let me restate this slower for you. I'm asking you if you honestly believe I'm some kind of survivor, why would you lynch me over a scum read? It makes no sense to lynch someone that doesn't hurt your wincon if I'm a survivor. Your case against me being a survivor is horrific, like cutting your own arm off to spite your face unless you ARE scum.

[Ghostlin]

Ghostlin's wagon has a much stronger case

Could you please briefly summarize this case?

Sly, got a question for you, and I may be dead before you can answer, but I'd like you to answer for the record: You are checking to make sure the people who are saying MoI's case against me is great actually understand what MoI's case is, right?

Because the last person you asked this question answered it with how I was most likely to be survivor and that I should eat rope.

[FourseenCircumstance]

There is obviously something your not telling us about your role ghostlin if you keep on saying that you could be a survivor..... This aspect of your posts is very alarming.

[SlySly]

Sly, got a question for you, and I may be dead before you can answer, but I'd like you to answer for the record: You are checking to make sure the people who are saying MoI's case against me is great actually understand what MoI's case is, right?

Yes, comprehension of stated case is pro-town. I think the current support of your wagon is basically, "MoI wrote a big wall, since deadline is near, sounds good to me, vote: Ghostlin".

[Junpei]

The point in Ghostlin claiming that he didn't have a power, which would mean that he is claiming that he is VT without straight out coming and saying he was VT seemed like he was trying to make it look like it wasn't going to be one of those "oh he is VT so that is a safe lynch vote" why would You disguise it with the fancy wording of you didn't come into the game with a power instead of saying you are a VT? It could be possible that he has other conditions that grants him powers as he progressees like a survivor like trait this is where I am drawing my suspicion.

There's a glitch in your thinking here. I think I'll just come out and say it. Why would you lynch me as a Survivor over someone that would hurt your wincon, such as a SK or a Mafia member?

So you are saying you aren't VT? MOAR VOTES on Ghostlin....

Furclow has a useful cylce role that can be useful to town tonight, so we let him cycle it then kill him tmmrw.

Wow, you and MoI are just all over the misreps today. Let me restate this slower for you. I'm asking you if you honestly believe I'm some kind of survivor, why would you lynch me over a scum read? It makes no sense to lynch someone that doesn't hurt your wincon if I'm a survivor. Your case against me being a survivor is horrific, like cutting your own arm off to spite your face unless you ARE scum.

This is fine logic by Ghostlin, and what does Fourseen say?

There is obviously something your not telling us about your role ghostlin if you keep on saying that you could be a survivor..... This aspect of your posts is very alarming.

He COMPLETELY dodges the clear issue with his line of thinking and twists it onto Ghostlin. Fourseen. Needs. Rope. If not today, tomorrow. Sorry MoI, but you can't protect Fourseen if I'm alive tomorrow.

[Ghostlin]

There is obviously something your not telling us about your role ghostlin if you keep on saying that you could be a survivor..... This aspect of your posts is very alarming.

*Facepalm* I'm not going to go over the hypothetical again. You're apparently not understanding the point, rest assured that I know I'm not a survivor, but I think you don't.

[Ghostlin]

Junpei, if I had a that picture of Fry from Futurama with the narrow eyes that usually goes 'Can't decide if trolling, or stupid,' in Four's case, I'd change the caption to 'Can't decide if scummy, or stupid.'

[chkflip]

My scumread of Fourseen is actually making me feel more and more like this back and forth between the two is some sort of distancing ploy, so I'll have to retract the previous statement about Furc and vote with what I think looks best. Fourseen is still scum imo regardless, but this is looking a lot better for analysis than lynching Furc due to what could simply be chalked up to a misunderstanding.

UNVOTE: Fourseen Circumstance
VOTE: Ghostlin

[Ghostlin]

My scumread of Fourseen is actually making me feel more and more like this back and forth between the two is some sort of distancing ploy, so I'll have to retract the previous statement about Furc and vote with what I think looks best. Fourseen is still scum imo regardless, but this is looking a lot better for analysis than lynching Furc due to what could simply be chalked up to a misunderstanding.

UNVOTE: Fourseen Circumstance
VOTE: Ghostlin

Um, chk, aren't you missing something? I don't actually get why your vote is on me.

[PeregrineV]

I realize it's not on the approved "wagon of the day" list, but his posts keep getting worse with each one.

Vote: Magister Ludi

[RedCoyote]

What was the purpose of this post? Please stop fluffing, and post more content. What is your opinion of the daykill?

I was just informing him that he needs to get on Kdub's case if he wants more information, not just "someone".

It was better than not having one at all. I wouldn't have handled it the same way, but that's a political thing and not really a suspicion thing.

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I switched from Furclow to Ghostlin becasue the case presented by MoI had the best content in it of any case so far. Furclow's ability seems pretty 3rd party, but that doesn't strictly mean a bad thing for the town. That's about all.

There's something about this that doesn't sit well with me. Do you trust MoI's case more than your own instincts?

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Vote: Furcolow

Ghostlin seems very likely town, from even before his claiming shenanigans. I think he's catching a lot of flak because he's been unafraid to call a good number of people out. I see that happen a lot, some town players get nervous when other people start throwing around a lot of guilt without stick to one or two people. It also seems FC pulls another trick out of his hat, avoiding the daykill first off and now avoiding the lynch.

[Magister Ludi]

I realize it's not on the approved "wagon of the day" list, but his posts keep getting worse with each one.

Vote: Magister Ludi

How so?

[Magister Ludi]

Out of the two wagons

Vote: Ghostlin

for sure.

Mainly because I thought one of Workdawg and Toogelloo had to be scum when they were on my wagon.
I also noticed that Workdawg hopped around the top wagons al lot which I didn't like and they way he did it too.
It looked like Workdawg wasn't even making reads or committing to anything really.
Ghostlin obviously played a little better but the slot in general to me was scummy.

We hold

these

this post

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to be self evident(ly scummy), that all men are created equally with the ability to vote (and lynch warriormode)...