Mini 1262 - Game Over (Over!)

[Force of Nature]

I half expect Faraday to post in this thread thinking he's Uphill.
I've been giving Uphill way too much towncred for playstyle as opposed to for doing ANYTHING protown.
He pretty aggressively counterwagoned to protect Triangle D1.
Attacking WaV while FoSing me and Sleepy, then going "FoN made a good case on Sleepy lets vote sleepy"
And then on the next morning IMMEDIATELY coming out and voting me like nothing happened in the meantime and he's suddenly seemingly not interested in WaV anymore.
Then when my wagon fades he hops right onto the next big BW. Where'd the WaV stuff go?? Or the 'scum voted pine' stuff??
And he makes the Implosion / Nacho kills make LOTS of sense.

WHERE IS GRIMMJOW.

Also Reck backing out of 1v1-mode so readily bothered my QTmates somewhat.
Honestly though I'm starting to see some 'this guy will flip town' signs from Reck.
Not that he hasn't totally fooled me before, but eh.

[Force of Nature]

Also I would FIRE FURCOLOW OUT OF AN AIRLOCK if it weren't for the miller thing.
LIKE SERIOUSLY, HIS INTERACTIONS WITH TRIANGLE COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE SCUMMIER HOLY FUCK.

soda called me "terribad scum" for claiming cop d1 when i was vanilla mafia, and we had power role mafia

i am not sure if i support the wagon on triangle yet.

Huh, so he likes to fakeclaim as scum? GOOD TO KNOW.

implosion's #414 attacks 2 people on the triangle wagon of being scum (highly unlikely 2/4 are scum for MS voting trends imo)
inb4 me using imo is a scumtell in his eyes (poking fun that his case on soda, to me, is town thought process)

also, if you look at his motivation in pushing soda (at 3 votes vs. triangle's 4) makes me happy to join the triangle wagon. feels like a weak chainsaw. implosion's scum game > implosion's town game. I wouldn't be surprised if he's scum here.

tl;dr implosion is mudslinging on the triangle wagon, while pushing the soda wagon

Mattman's omgus is voteworthy

vote: mattman

HE LINKS IMPLOTOWN TO TRIANGLE SCUM, CALLS TRIANGLE WAGON GOOD, AND VOTES MATTMAN

considering triangle defended my elipses which was a softclaim of my spite of my role of miller, i will go with pine if those are the only feasible options

however, i do not want to be hasty, FoN

ALL OF A SUDDEN HE THINKS PINE IS A BETTER VOTE THAN TRIANGLE WUTWUTWUTWUT.

Yo, Implosion, remember when reck said:

Reck might be scum.

Oh, that's right, you died and flipped town doctor
and I made a case on you
and triangle said using elipses is something that didn't make me scum
would scum do that to their buddy d1?
no siree bob

BACKWOODS. COUSINFUCK.
HE SAYS HIS BUDDY WOULDN'T DEFEND HIM EARLY D1 AND HE WOULDN'T KILL IMPLOSION BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IMPLOSION WAS SCUM.
I <3 WIFOM BUT THIS IS FOUL. HIS UPHILL BUDDY PROBABLY KILLED IMPLOSION. AND WHY WIFOM DEFEND YOURSELF OUT OF THE BLUE IF NOBODY'S VOTING YOU.

ONTO TRIANGLE:

I don't really see how Fur's use of ellipses was suspicious, particularly since he hasn't posted anything else to suggest scumminess. Besides, I would imagine most scum would prefer to not stand out and thus not put three dots in their confirm post.

WHEE DEFEND BUDDY

Except what you implied regarding your thoughts about Furcolow wasn't as strong as he was saying.

Reck: To me, Grimm sounded more certain that Pine was town than you were of Furcolow being scum. I was also not entirely sure how serious you were being about attacking him over ellipses and decided you were being half-serious, half-not, whereas Grimm sounded entirely serious.

Pine is leaning towards town when I judge from posts alone, although I don't like the way Grimm is declaring so strongly that Pine's definitely town.

Reckoner: Neither you nor FoN said Furcolow is definitely 100% scum, and even though your reasoning for accusing him was, in my opinion, weak, you still gave reasoning to support what you were saying.

HEHEHAHAHA TRIANGLE IS NOT EXCITED AT ALL TO ENGAGE WITH THE FURC WAGON EVEN THOUGH IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO GRIMM.
AND JUST THE WAY TRIANGLE TALKS ABOUT FURC THERE...

SOMEBODY CONVINCE ME THAT MILLER CLAIM COULD BE FAKE PLEASE.

[Force of Nature]

I'm not voting tonight because I make terrible decisions at 4AM.
But hopefully I just provided enough food for some people to stop lurking and start arguing.

[Force of Nature]

Oh also Triangle supposedly deeply considered the seriousness of the Furc wagon. INTERESTING.

[xRECKONERx]

SOMEBODY CONVINCE ME THAT MILLER CLAIM COULD BE FAKE PLEASE.

the ONLY way this works is if it was planned by his scumteam, which would have to include someone experienced who could set up such a gambit, which would be me/you/Pine

[Pine]

Furc has enough experience to do it on his own. Not sure why it would require assistance or coordination from anyone else.

[Regfan]

Vote Count 3.3:

Yates (3): Pine, Uphill, Furcolow.
xRECKONERx (1): Force of Nature.

Not Voting (5):

Weirdalexv, SodaSpirit17, Grimmjow, Yates, xRECKONERx.

Grimmjow has been prodded.

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The deadline is in (expired on 2011-11-22 21:50:00)

[xRECKONERx]

Furc has enough experience to do it on his own. Not sure why it would require assistance or coordination from anyone else.

Furc is kinda dumb

[Force of Nature]

He does like claiming though.

Furc, do you think faking a miller claim as mafia is within your mafia-abilities?

[Uphill]

I half expect Faraday to post in this thread thinking he's Uphill.
I've been giving Uphill way too much towncred for playstyle as opposed to for doing ANYTHING protown.
He pretty aggressively counterwagoned to protect Triangle D1.
Attacking WaV while FoSing me and Sleepy, then going "FoN made a good case on Sleepy lets vote sleepy"
And then on the next morning IMMEDIATELY coming out and voting me like nothing happened in the meantime and he's suddenly seemingly not interested in WaV anymore.
Then when my wagon fades he hops right onto the next big BW. Where'd the WaV stuff go?? Or the 'scum voted pine' stuff??
And he makes the Implosion / Nacho kills make LOTS of sense.

I don't understand the Faraday reference.
I don't see how my D1 push on Pine was aggressive. I posted what I thought might have been a scum mistake from Pine and said I wasn't so sure he was town and voted him, and that was really it.
Alex was my strongest scum read at the start of D2, but has not been at any point since I shifted to Sleepy.
Yates has proven my scum-not-bussing theory wrong by reacting to a vote with a ricockulously over-the-top shitfit.

[Force of Nature]

You seem rather alty.

[Yates]

Dear Pine, Uphill, & Furc,

Would you please explain to the Town why you think I voted for scum early on Day 1 and stayed on scum throughout if I am scum?
- Here's a hint: it was too early in the game for a bus so I wouldn't.
- Here's a free 2nd hint: it would have been too easy for me to jump on the Pine wagon and tip the lynch towards him thus saving my scum buddy if I were actual scum.

Would you please also explain to the town why I would target the one person who I felt I had "convinced" I was Town if I were scum?
- Linky: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3562385
- Here's a hint: if I were actual scum, the LAST people I would lynch would be people that are championing Yates as Town.

The answers to these questions will prove very useful to the Town should I end up lynched or dead. Logic. It's the enemy of scum.

Thank you for your consideration.

[Pine]

It's never too early for a bus, noob.

[Force of Nature]

There's lurking and then there's LUUUUURRRKKKINNGGGG
Reck, do you still think Grimm's town?
He did vote Triangle, but it wasn't a super awesome townlinkmode vote.

Bah I forgot that Triangle voted him early too. Triangle didn't really follow up that vote, but it's a little bit hard to believe doublebus.

It's more of a confluence of events. As I said when I tried to get a read on Reck with my "you first" post, I'm NOT sold on FoN = Town. However, given how certain I was that FoN and SKrew were both scum and seeing SKrew flip Town gave me enough reason to rethink my initial snap judgement. This is especially in light of how quickly I dropped the hammer [I was 99% sure!]. I still have a lot of questions about FoN [hence the "pains me" part], but I need some time to reprocess the last day's events.

My unvote is less a vote of confidence in FoN and more of a tool to buy myself more time in case of a flash lynch. I just don't want to be a part of one I'm not 100% sure on.

If Sleepy's town flip was the reason you decided to rethink your "snap judgment" on Force, then why was the first thing you did today jumping on the Force insta-wagon?

This doesn't add up.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yates

This is actually a pretty decent point.

[Pine]

Grimm's last post was five days ago, and his post before that was ten days ago. Please replace him. It's unfair to Town regardless of his alignment, as we're denied his input if he's Town and denied the ability to catch him if scum.

[Regfan]

I'm giving Grimmjow 24 hours from now to pick up his prod and post here, if he hasn't done so by then I'll have to find a replacement for him.

[Uphill]

Dear Pine, Uphill, & Furc,

Would you please explain to the Town why you think I voted for scum early on Day 1 and stayed on scum throughout if I am scum?
- Here's a hint: it was too early in the game for a bus so I wouldn't.
- Here's a free 2nd hint: it would have been too easy for me to jump on the Pine wagon and tip the lynch towards him thus saving my scum buddy if I were actual scum.

Would you please also explain to the town why I would target the one person who I felt I had "convinced" I was Town if I were scum?
- Linky: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3562385
- Here's a hint: if I were actual scum, the LAST people I would lynch would be people that are championing Yates as Town.

The answers to these questions will prove very useful to the Town should I end up lynched or dead. Logic. It's the enemy of scum.

Thank you for your consideration.

Hell if I know, and hell if I care. Your scum play today FAR outweighs any town cred you got from being on the Triangle lynch, and that's all that matters to me.

[Grimmjow]

Ok, guys, I know how horribly I've been playing. Been distracted, recently. I'm going to work tomorrow morning/early afternoon on catching up and I'm going to be more active in this game. Sorry.

[Force of Nature]

All right folks, you've now successfully drawn ME into the game.

Time for some fun.

Anyone considering Yates or Soda to be scum needs to back down now, or you die.

Anyone calling PINE scum, same thing.

Leading suspects for scum are Grimmjow, Reckoner, Uphill, Furc and MAYBE MAYBE MAYYYYYYYYBE Alex, but only if the other 4 don't eliminate all the scum.

Here's the deal.

Uphill: Post 852, followed by post 869 is the equivalent of a scum claim for me. Can you explain your thought process here?

Grimmjow: You've been lurking like a motherfucker, and FURTHER MORE, you've been making posts with very little to back them up.

Why was our case on Reck Day 1 "the weakest thing you've seen since a newbie game"? You never explained what made it so poor, nor did you elaborate on what you felt was wrong in it. PLease do so now.

Further, I want a full extensive case on Uphill. In your next post. Or you die. Kapishe? :3

Reckoner: I actually have a few questions for you, before I tell you what I'm thinking right now.

1) What is your opinion of Grimm?
2) What is your opinion of Uphill?
3) What is your opinion of Furc?
4) Why did you vote SK on Day 2?

Furc: Can you explain your random wagon hopping this game? You've frequently jumped on wagons without so much as a sentence to explain yourself.

[Force of Nature]

EBWOP:

- Lady Lambdadelta

[Force of Nature]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3575534

Never mind, this is Alex-town.

He's put on the "Very Townie" list.

[Force of Nature]

EBWOP:

DAMMIT. Forgot to sign again.

-LLD

[Pine]

Hey LLD! You've got some interesting things to say, but you can take your Town-read on Yates and kindly fuck off with it.

Soda I'm trending apathetic on, and starting to like Uphill more and more as Yates's buddy. So sure, I'll go along with you on that.

[Force of Nature]

Hey LLD! You've got some interesting things to say, but you can take your Town-read on Yates and kindly fuck off with it.

Soda I'm trending apathetic on, and starting to like Uphill more and more as Yates's buddy. So sure, I'll go along with you on that.

Sweetie, I know you're town and all, but you should really leave the scumhunting to the adults.

Voting Uphill and/or Grimmjow here is a good move.

Reck, the sooner you answer my questions, the sooner I can move my vote from you.

[Force of Nature]

-LLD