League of Legends (Old)

[Staeg]

<googles>

[Staeg]

Am not impressed.

[Brandi]

thoughts on the patch preview:

sona doesn't need a nerf to her w, she's just in general got more utility than the other supports due to being able to poke aggressively in lane, heal, give an MS buff, and have an AoE stun; she's thus extremely hard to balance, expecting her to waver between useless and insanely useful for quite some time (i'd still pick her over any other support in most situations right now tbh)

tl;dr the armor/mr will be unnoticeable, the scaling mana costs won't be that noticeable, her kit is batshit insane for a support

kat change is interesting

tristana does

not

need a buff, cait/graves/kog nerfs will possibly put kog back into useless territory depending on what they nerf (i'm guessing range), mf will still be outclassed by graves, plz give me back my corki blind riot

sion changes aren't quite enough

my guess is that the cv changes won't make it any less useful, and will push people towards conserving it for when it's actually needed (too much follow the jungler is a bad thing, yo)

'If sona lands a killing blow, the target will remain on the battle field for 3 seconds, unable to move or attack - if hit by another champion that champion will take the killing blow leaving sona with an assist.'

That ought to stop those stupid Sona's who kill steal all the time with their stupid pew pew beams.

this would be retarded

people who rage about sona KSing don't understand how her character works (she's by far the easiest support to

completely accidentally

KS with due to the fact that her range on her Q is very hard to learn and people often forget about power chord in the heat of a fight) and are likely the sorts of people who care more about kills than breaking the goddamn nexus (which makes them bad at the game)

I remember ranting about Sona being useless just a few weeks ago... Now she's being nerfed? Maaaan the ones i've mostly played with must suck. Something should be done to stop her being allowed killing blows if there's an ally within range of the target though that would be a reasonable nerf for her / buff for her own team.

sona is by far the best support in the game right now (except in certain situations where other supports would be better; see cait or vayne/taric and ashe or kog/soraka) and compliments any bot lane AD carry due to her insane utility

I love it when JD posts in this thread.

[TheButtonmen]

Soraka needs more JD lovin'.

She gives mana.

Mana

!

[Ankamius]

Sona is the best support simply because she is the only one to have good CC, good utility, good damage, and low reliance on items (hi karma).

In other news, I have 11 rune pages now. Yay!

[Brandi]

that new mastery trees gives too many options. i find it really difficult to choose between them.

This is a GOOD thing.

[hitogoroshi]

I didn't see anything in the patch preview about dodge runes going away?

Dodge isn't. Nimbleness (the mastery where dodging gives you +10% ms for a few seconds) is going away, and for most characters that was pretty much one of the only reasons for dodge - I made sure to only ever take dodge runes in conjunction with my nimbleness page. So now I'm probably not having dodge at all, and a lot of people agree with me, I think.

I imagine they'll announce passive reworks for Jax, Sivir, Udyr, and then all at once say, "Dodge runes are being removed, people are being refunded, Tabi is getting reworked."

[Staeg]

I love how they said that it's a minor tournament patch. And they're revamping all of the masteries.

[JDodge]

Soraka needs more JD lovin'.

She gives mana.

Mana

!

soraka is a good pick for a lane that you want to sustain the fuck out of, or if the enemy team has a karthus

Sona is the best support simply because she is the only one to have good CC, good utility, good damage, and low reliance on items (hi karma).

In other news, I have 11 rune pages now. Yay!

i miss my karma supportin' days, stupid not being shit anymore

I love how they said that it's a minor tournament patch. And they're revamping all of the masteries.

the impression i get is "that's not this patch"

[hitogoroshi]

I got that idea from the LINK but the video pretty explicitly said it's this patch.

[Nexus]

Nasus isn't bad. I suck harder as melee than ranged though

[Chronopie]

I'm looking forward to the Lifesteal and Spellvamp masteries. Even if I don't end up with a nice 21/0/9 anymore.

[IH]

I was kind of pumped about the mastery changes until I realized that the experience gain increase mastery is now going to take 16 points to get... as a jungler.

[Fate]

Yeah if 8% gave junglers lvl 2 after mini golems exactly wtf is this gonna do

[JDodge]

I was kind of pumped about the mastery changes until I realized that the experience gain increase mastery is now going to take 16 points to get... as a jungler.

they're buffing jungle xp

[SomeRandomGuy]

Jdodge -

I understand perfectly well that it's usually accidental, that being said there's a lot of sona's out there who don't even try to secure kills for the partner and happily take the Killing blows. What i suggested was in jest, although would be a considerable buff to the sona's team.

On the tristana buff: She doesn't need a buff so much as she needs a little rework, she needs more scaling for her abilities, or a reduced cooldown on her ulti even if a little of her auto shot damage would be took away or her Q nerfed a little.

[IH]

The only buff tristana needs is a more responsive rocket jump, hoooooly fuck I hate that thing.

[Chronopie]

I dislike being able to be Flung/charged etc while in midair, and it acting as though I hadn't jumped at all. (for position)

[Ankamius]

As a Tristana main who has played over 400 games of Tristana, all she needs is an E rework. That's it. Nothing else needs to change.

[xRECKONERx]

So Brand is basically AP nuke burst damage, and Cassie is damage over time.

Hmmm.

[Ankamius]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Oman]

So Brand is basically AP nuke burst damage, and Cassie is damage over time.

Hmmm.

By "over time" you mean 3 seconds, then yeeep!

Also, she's more about mana regen, and is awesome.

[xRECKONERx]

I'm so tempted to blindbuy her or Brand, but it's horrible to figure out which -_-

[hitogoroshi]

Yeah if 8% gave junglers lvl 2 after mini golems exactly wtf is this gonna do

they're going to buff exp gain from jungle by roughly the same ammount

blue or mini golems giving 2 and a full clear giving 4 should happen w/o masteries I believe it was said

[JDodge]

Jdodge -

I understand perfectly well that it's usually accidental, that being said there's a lot of sona's out there who don't even try to secure kills for the partner and happily take the Killing blows. What i suggested was in jest, although would be a considerable buff to the sona's team.

On the tristana buff: She doesn't need a buff so much as she needs a little rework, she needs more scaling for her abilities, or a reduced cooldown on her ulti even if a little of her auto shot damage would be took away or her Q nerfed a little.

not at all

tristana is probably the single strongest carry late-game aside from kog

So Brand is basically AP nuke burst damage, and Cassie is damage over time.

Hmmm.

cass still does some nuke damage, but she's mostly dot-focused

be prepared for an uphill struggle learning her

Also, she's more about mana regen, and is awesome.

what is this i don't even

you only need 2-3 doran's rings and your mana regen is set, gg