Abarat Mafia: Mini 1274 - Over

[Klazam]

Hello all!

I'm always up late. I work and do stuffs and sleep during the day, so dont except stuffs from me during the day, but during the night, do except me to post.

First: my stance on the miller-claim, I'm just gonna treat it as null. if Jase contributes to the town, good let him live, and if Jase is scummy, hang him. I do think millers should be hanged before LYLO comes around, though. This is to prevent scum riding a miller claim all the way to LYLO and destroying us because of it. In my opinion- the miller claim will only matter to the person who it matters to and nobody else. Further discussion of the miller claim is useless.

Questions-

Seraphrim- was that supposed to be a pure RVS vote?
Hind- are you implying since indecision said "might as well claim and selfvote, scum", he's town? If not, what did your previous post mean?
Indecision- why so indecisive? (just wanted to make that joke at least once)
Nacho- What is the purpose of your "deal" with equinox? I think that opens up a whole can of WIFOM. And why vote Hind?

vote Nacho

[Nachomamma8]

What is the purpose of your "deal" with equinox? I think that opens up a whole can of WIFOM

If she's scum, I don't get killed night one, meaning that I don't have to worry about her being scum all the way to day 2. Don't see where the WIFOM comes in. I voted for Hindu because I decided that I might as well toss a vote down.

[Klazam]

RVS vote?

WIFOM- Equinox kills you, or you die. Bam, instawifom. I dont like the concept of that deal.

[Klazam]

Durr, I mean "Equinox kills you, or Equinox dies"

[Nachomamma8]

Don't pay attention to it, then. It's not an auto-clear if one of us dies during the night.

I just trust that Equinox is honorable enough to take the deal if she accepts it.
And I figure she knows me well enough that I would keep up my end of the bargain if she accepted it.

[Klazam]

Fine, why Equinox in particular?

[Nachomamma8]

Equinox is the only person in the playerlist who I trust would take the deal as scum and not kill me immediately after taking it.

[Klazam]

Hmm. I dont get it, then.

Does your Hindu vote have any basis or not?

unvote

[Nachomamma8]

Nope. No basis whatsoever, but it's gonna sit here for a bit while others do their thing.

[4nxi3ty]

initial reaction to the jase/faraday/indecision triangle is one scum, two towns.

Vote: Klazam

your unvote feels a little out of place.

[Nachomamma8]

Nevermind.

Unvote, Vote: Anxiety

Why exactly does the jase/faraday/indecision interaction feel like a specific number of scum and townie? What about that argument makes someone, although no one in particular, feel like a certain number of scum and town?

[4nxi3ty]

There seems to be a lot of meta coming into play with that interaction, which imo wouldn't be necessary if all three were town. It is far more likely that there is only one scum and not two, given the nature of their arguments. No one has done anything overly scummy so there is still the possibility that they are town.

[Indecision]

(Equinox)

Anyways, I still think you guys are scum, and a lot of that is for going for Faraday instantly, calling it a joke, and then keeping your vote on him.

We're scum for... voting Faraday in RVS and getting a rise out of him. Well done, Hinduragi! You caught us on page one. Where did you ever learn to hunt scum like that? Seriously, while both of us have been in hydrae with him, they've been town hydrae, which is a far cry from actually playing scum with him and hasn't stopped either of us from getting burned by Faraday-scum.

EQUINOX:

If I'm scum, the mafia will not kill you night one. In return, if you're scum, you don't kill us right now. Deal?

Bah! But I love getting killed Night 1. Not sure how the latter deal will work seeing as we're not scum anyway, but deal.

initial reaction to the jase/faraday/indecision triangle is one scum, two towns.

Vote: Klazam

your unvote feels a little out of place.

> scum in {Faraday, Indecision, Jase}
> votes Klazam
> "but they could be town too"

Okay.

Unvote, Vote: 4nxi3ty

[DLG]

VOTE: 4nxi3ty

What Nachomamma 8 said.

Also, any one of the three seem more likely scum than the others?
If not, why not check it out further?
If so, why not vote that one?

@ Nachomamma8
Why, if you are scum, are you willing to give Equinox (as Indecision) a guarantee of a second Day?

@ Jase
Do you plan to use your miller claim as license to be hyper scummy?
Do you anticipate being just scummy enough to warrant being investigated?

@ Timeater
Did you finally draw scum like you wanted in the sign-up thread?

[Nachomamma8]

There seems to be a lot of meta coming into play with that interaction, which imo wouldn't be necessary if all three were town. It is far more likely that there is only one scum and not two, given the nature of their arguments. No one has done anything overly scummy so there is still the possibility that they are town.

There's nothing about metatalk that automatically means there's scum in a group. Also, "nature of their arguments" doesn't mean anything. Explain.

DLG: The Indecision hydra is a strong hydra. So, if they perform well after I offer to let them live through the night, I look more town simply because I was the one who made the offer in the first place simply because many people just won't be able to come up with the answer to that very question.

[4nxi3ty]

Also, any one of the three seem more likely scum than the others?
If not, why not check it out further?
If so, why not vote that one?

Like I said earlier, it was an initial reaction and i haven't taken the time to analyze it further.

Either way i find Klazam's response to nacho seems Scummier.

@nacho, do you think my wagon would be an easy one to jump onto.

[Nachomamma8]

Like I said earlier, it was an initial reaction and i haven't taken the time to analyze it further.

The problem with this is that we're telling you to analyze it further.

As to your question, yes. And it's getting easier and easier every time you ignore a question.

[Nachomamma8]

EBWOP: And it gets*

[4nxi3ty]

yeh I am currently phone postings.

What I meant by 'given the nature' is that it wouldn't make sense for both scum to draw that much attention to themselves.

[Faraday]

Hey 4nxi3ty. How are you today?

[Faraday]

We're scum for... voting Faraday in RVS and getting a rise out of him.

Did you feel you 'got a rise out of me'
Do you feel your vote was useful?
What made you vote me over anyone else on the playerlist? Just your knowing me and thinking you'd get a useful reaction or something?

these questions aren't rhetorical either.

[Faraday]

Nacho- What is the purpose of your "deal" with equinox? I think that opens up a whole can of WIFOM. And why vote Hind?

[4nxi3ty]

Hey 4nxi3ty. How are you today?

good, thank you for asking.

[Indecision]

(Equinox)

Yes and yes. When the game opened, I sent an IM to Mina letting her know, and both of us agreed to RVS you for kicks. My personal reason is that I was hoping I could get a repeat of Mafia 82.5 on the Westeros forums where I was able to read you by focusing on you for a bit.

[Faraday]

(Equinox)

Yes and yes. When the game opened, I sent an IM to Mina letting her know, and both of us agreed to RVS you for kicks. My personal reason is that I was hoping I could get a repeat of Mafia 82.5 on the Westeros forums where I was able to read you by focusing on you for a bit.

Did you now? Curious you bring that game up. Curious indeed.


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