Animal Rescue: petsPick (Game Over!)

[zoraster]

Mod: Please prod Llamarble

He's been prodded, but he did mention he had limited access for the next few days.

[Amrun]

Vi, I still don't understand why you unvoted, since Ghostlin is in your scum tier.


I just realized something... Isn't reck in this game?

[Amrun]

oh nvm he was killed my bad

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Unvote, vote: 'marble

Vi, with me!

[Vi]

Vi, I still don't understand why you unvoted, since Ghostlin is in your scum tier.

I wanted time to reread.

Vi, with me!

Wait, you're not following someone else's vote?

Vote: Llamarble

(L-6)

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Oh, one other thing.

Immortal Tier

Amrun
Sotty7

That One Tier

Untrod Tripod
Kublai Khan
Quilford
Cogito Ergo Sum

That Other Tier

VP Baltar
jasonT1984
xvart

Scum Tier

Debonair Danny DiPietro
Ghostlin
glowball
Llamarble

Paraphrase of Unquoteable Vote Count

Ghostlin -

Quilford, Kublai Khan,

Llamarble,

Vi, Amrun,

VP Baltar,

Cogito Ergo Sum

JasonT1981 -

glowball, Debonair Danny DiPietro,

xvart,

Ghostlin

jason should probably move up in my 772 list.

[Vi]

Forgot to answer Sotty.

I wouldn't be against an xvart wagon.

[Sotty7]

Vote: Llama

[VP Baltar]

lol, so if Vi repeats what I've been saying all damn day, it suddenly makes Llama seem scummier. Good to hear my opinion is so valued 'round these parts.

unvote, vote: Llama

[Llamarble]

Erm why am I getting lynched again?
What was so slimy about my posting?
Careful immortal-tiering Sotty; unless she's Towned recently I was a little worried about her.

The point was to look town.
More specifically to be transparent about my reactions to THE UNIVERSE.

The Llamarble case:

1) General uselessness (Fluff, lack of scumhunting).
Posts that indicate this behavior: 139, 200 (mostly the beginning of 200), 223, 340 (mostly a game mechanic that doesn't talk about scumhunting), 453-455 (he mostly explains how he came to the reads without any real analysis), 457, 484 (with this many posts, no wonder you were third), 490 (is really just waving himself around).

2) Lack of explanation on most of his town/scum reads: I've hit this point a lot, but he often will say X is town or Y is scum without really giving a case or much of a reason. Besides 'my ISO', the only reason why I think Llam's voting for me is because he didn't like the reason I voted for him via case. He did claim it was inaccurate, but Sotty, point #1 is the reason I voted for Llam in the first place. (Particularly since he listed me as a town read end of Day 1).

3) Excessive use of one or more of the following phrases, 'more to come', 'I'll do a deepread', etc. This is forgivable if he coughs up the goods, but yesterday he waited until the 11th hour to post a town/scum list. He never goes into detail why he suspects the way he does; and his case on me was really 'I guess I better have a case on Ghostlin. 'His ISO', and OMGUS.

4) I don't like #654. You can argue about meta until the cows come home, but it reads as an excuse to shift his vote off of VP onto a more poplous wagon.

5) #656 has either an associative tell with no reasoning or calling out three players as scum for no reason.

Pretty sure none of these things are actually scummy and I can provide a hojillion examples of all of them from me-town.
There's time before deadline; don't lynch me till I at least get available to talk again.

[Vi]

lol, so if Vi repeats what I've been saying all damn day, it suddenly makes Llama seem scummier. Good to hear my opinion is so valued 'round these parts.

What was so slimy about my posting?

[Ghostlin]

Erm why am I getting lynched again?
What was so slimy about my posting?
Careful immortal-tiering Sotty; unless she's Towned recently I was a little worried about her.

Pretty sure none of these things are actually scummy and I can provide a hojillion examples of all of them from me-town.
There's time before deadline; don't lynch me till I at least get available to talk again.

Yeah, going to follow my case now that town's decided this direction. This glorified proddodge cements what I was saying.

Unvote, Vote: Llam

[zoraster]

Day 2

Amrun ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Ghostlin ( 4 )

Quilford,

Kublai Khan,

Llamarble,

Amrun,

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(L - 4 )

glowball ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

JasonT1981 ( 3 )

glowball,

Debonair Danny DiPietro,

xvart,

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(L - 5 )

Kublai Khan ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Llamarble ( 6 )

JasonT1981,

Cogito Ergo Sum,

Vi,

Sotty7,

VP Baltar,

Ghostlin,

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(L - 2 )

Quilford ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Sotty7 ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Untrod Tripod ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Vi ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

VP Baltar ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

xvart ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 2 )

Untrod Tripod, Roxi,

Total Votes ( 15 )

Needed to Lynch [ 8 ]

Deadline: Nov. 28th at 20:00 EST

[Llamarble]

That was a prod-response, not a prod-dodge.
Anyway, I said I don't have much time right now.
Nobody has actually called anything I've done scummy, they just have said I haven't done enough.
I drove from Chicago to DC Tuesday, was at the White House / Capitol Wednesday, Drove to NYC yesterday, and now I'm here. I should have a little time today but I haven't yet.

[Llamarble]

I reread VP / Xvart / Ghostlin. All I can say about them is HOLY BALLS ALL THREE NEED TO DIE.
If you people leave any of them alive to endgame there will be ANGER (well, assuming they flip scum. I'm always happy to be ignored when I'm wrong. They will flip scum though.). I'm okay with my 11 win streak ending because I played bad, but I'll be disappointed if I get lynched while I don't even have proper access and then the town fails to eliminate the scums I found for them.

[Vi]

I reread VP / Xvart / Ghostlin. All I can say about them is HOLY BALLS ALL THREE NEED TO DIE.

Just curious, but
1) Exactly whose balls are you swearing by, and who was in charge of their beatification?
2) Why those three?

[Force of Nature]

I didn't have a particular pair of balls in mind, though a wise man running for office once used his balls as a platform for the election, saying we could hide behind them in the event of nuclear attack and such. That seems like a good pair.
I reread them because they were my top scumreads. A lot of the time when I reread scumreads I get second thoughts, but this time that didn't happen.

[Llamarble]

I didn't have a particular pair of balls in mind, though a wise man running for office once used his balls as a platform for the election, saying we could hide behind them in the event of nuclear attack and such. That seems like a good pair.
I reread them because they were my top scumreads. A lot of the time when I reread scumreads I get second thoughts, but this time that didn't happen.

[Kublai Khan]

Wait.. what? I get sick for a couple of days and come back to see my Ghostlin wagon decimated in favor of a Llamarble wagon?

And it looks like Llamarble is conceding without any kind of claim? Well... shit. That's a scum-tell in itself.

I'm not totally happy with this turn of events. I think there are better lynches for today.

[xvart]

Yes, I saw what you were driving at but it wasn't until I took a closer look at the whole Jason/Llama/Glow exchange did I realize how badly you were misrepping what went down.

You really are trying to say that I'm misrepping what when down when I just illustrated exactly how wrong you are? The "push" jason put on Llamarble consisted of

1. asking for a proper case; and,
   
2. talks about how high post count doesn't mean anything.

But my point still stands because f you were to read jason's ISO without knowing anything about the game and with all his votes removed I cannot believe anyone would actually think he was voting Llamarble over glowball. The difference in stated suspicion and intent is obviously favored towards glowball by a wide margin.

It doesn't matter that I have varying scum reads on all three of those players, a shit case is a shit case and makes me really want to lynch you.

Well compared to your reasons for thinking jason are scum (one post gut read, not posting, etc.) I would say that I have a less shitcase than you do. Speaking of your read on jason, while looking through your ISO to see why you have a varying level of suspicion on jason I would some interesting things. You had a gut scum read on his first post. You then further explain your first vote as a gut scum read. You then ask Amrun to consider lynching Llamarble over jason. Then you call jason wrongtown. Then you ask ghostlin why he is voting Llamarble over Amrun/CES/jason. Then you come back and confirm you are suspicious of jason. That is certainly a lot of dancing around voting jason if I've ever seen it.

[Vi]

Wait.. what? I get sick for a couple of days and come back to see my Ghostlin wagon decimated in favor of a Llamarble wagon?

And it looks like Llamarble is conceding without any kind of claim? Well... shit. That's a scum-tell in itself.

I'm not totally happy with this turn of events. I think there are better lynches for today.

Less posturing please.

xvart is doing :awesome: at not pretending to participate beyond his own sideshow.

[Kublai Khan]

I'm not posturing. Since Roxi is assumed to be the hammering vote, I'm prodding him for a roleclaim. This is a role madness game, so there's no reason for him to be giving up like a VT.

[glowball]

Mmkay so should Llam turn out to be town, Vi deserves death.

[Vi]

I'm not posturing. Since Roxi is assumed to be the hammering vote, I'm prodding him for a roleclaim. This is a role madness game, so there's no reason for him to be giving up like a VT.

I'm more talking about:

I'm not totally happy with this turn of events. I think there are better lynches for today.

Don't say "there are better lynches" without advertising them.

Mmkay so should Llam turn out to be town, Vi deserves death.

...For calling you scum? ...For suggesting that I could go from one wagon you weren't on to other wagons you also aren't on? ...For not being on your scumteam?

I only get three guesses.

[Quilford]

Reading.

[Kublai Khan]

Don't say "there are better lynches" without advertising them.

Ghostlin, Debonair Danny DiPietro, xvart. In that order. Llamarble is probably fourth or fifth at this point. So I can be swayed either way.