Mini 1262 - Game Over (Over!)

[Yates]

I think you have me confused with FoN.

[Force of Nature]

I'll give this game some time tomorrow.

[Uphill]

Vote Count 3.7

Thor665 (3): xRECKONERx, Yates, Uphill.
Uphill (3): Pine, Force of Nature, Thor665
Force of Nature (1): Furcolow.
SodaSpirit17 (1): Grimmjow.

Not Voting (1):

SodaSpirit17.

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The deadline is in (expired on 2011-11-22 21:50:00)

Two days, people. If you're not on a wagon, you better get on one NOW.

[Furcolow]

Uphill, you don't want me to do that

[Furcolow]

Triangle was "suspicious" of yates, unvoting, then questioned people about why they would vote Yates
it felt fake

WTF are you talking about? I voted once on day 1 and it was a Triangle lynch. Are you drunk?

I didnt say you on triangle
i said triangle on you
dont twist my words

[Furcolow]

Grimmjow's vote... lol

[Furcolow]

unvote

[Regfan]

Vote Count 3.8

Thor665 (3): xRECKONERx, Yates, Uphill.
Uphill (2): Pine, Force of Nature.
SodaSpirit17 (1): Grimmjow.
xRECKONERx (1): Thorr665.

Not Voting (2):

SodaSpirit17, Furcolow

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The deadline is in (expired on 2011-11-22 21:50:00)

[Yates]

Furc and Soda; is there a reason you are not on the Thor wagon? He keeps telling me I'm a dumb noob so I'm hoping one of you can tell me what I am misunderstanding. It would have more weight coming from someone... well... not him.

Thanks.

[Pine]

Sorry Thor. I'm reasonably sure that scum lie within {Uphill, Soda, Thor} and we're getting close to deadline. Everything you've said so far is consistent and fits together right, and it almost feels...I don't know, calling it "too consistent" sounds cliche. The plus side of this is that if you flip Town, then the doubts about all the work you've done go away, and we can really home in on scum.

Unvote
Vote: Thor

Yates, you are a noob. And your stubborn refusal to improve or even recognize that you need to improve makes you kinda dumb.

[Yates]

Yates, you are a noob. And your stubborn refusal to improve or even recognize that you need to improve makes you kinda dumb.

That's why I'm asking Furc and Soda for their feedback. I'm working on improving and still like my logic so far. I've actually heard enough from you and Thor so maybe feedback from them - with a new perspective - will trigger that "ah-ha" moment you are hoping I'll find.

[xRECKONERx]

Thor's random switch on me gives me WHEEEBUDDY vibes. The turnabout was so quick for someone who was SO SURE I was scum.

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[Thor665]

Sorry Thor. I'm reasonably sure that scum lie within {Uphill, Soda, Thor} and we're getting close to deadline. Everything you've said so far is consistent and fits together right, and it almost feels...I don't know, calling it "too consistent" sounds cliche. The plus side of this is that if you flip Town, then the doubts about all the work you've done go away, and we can really home in on scum.

Oh dear gawd, I've committed the scumtell of "presenting reasoning" and "having a logical thought process that can be followed".
My payment is - 'after death we can trust your reads...but we shan't trust them just yet due to you needing death'.

What is this gak? (I'd be careful about calling Yates dumb with that as your vote reasoning, natch - at least Yates calls his tells scummy and probably believes it)

Unvote: Reck
Vote: Grimm

I'm also down with an Uphill lynch.
I oppose the Thor derp wagon.

[Thor665]

Thor's random switch on me gives me WHEEEBUDDY vibes. The turnabout was so quick for someone who was SO SURE I was scum.

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::facepalm::

Reck - I read new evidence. The turnaround was quick because I was still playing catchup in a 40+ page game.
Normally at this point I think people usually wail and call everyone stupid and blame the other players for their coming lynch...luckily I've already done that

Okay, but seriously - the case on me is a joke, and there are literally two other players on Day 3 that none of you have clear reads on, and you're all basically admitting as such. Town needs to get its backside in gear, and it really doesn't behoove you to lynch me at this stage off the case of...whatever the fug you all think it is, I'm still not sure.

I won't claim, unless hammer threatened (by I, guess, one of the loser lurkers), but in case of a hammer sans claim request I will clarify - there has been no breadcrumbing from this slot, ever.

[Yates]

Thor - you are entertaining, I'll give you that. I'd like to see what you could do with a Town role some time.

Just for giggles - who are the two people we need better reads on [Grimm and...?] and what are YOUR reads on those two?

[Thor665]

1. This is me with a town role...though I'm generally informed that my meta is hard to pierce so you're probably not seeing much different from me other than trying to slog through this town's sludgy situation at a late date. Also, your back patting is embarrassing for you. Sit and be quiet with a small smile, if I flip scum you'll still look smart, but considering my role PM you'll just look less derpy than trying to act sure of yourself (and if you are sure - work on the quality of your reads).

2. Grimm and Soda (the fact you're cognizant of half of my list without any effort is proof of the validity of that call). The reads there are all muddled and minor and this is Day 3, somebody is dropping the ball really hard on the pair of them, especially considering that I'm a lurk case that no one is willing to admit is a lurk case.

[xRECKONERx]

You keep calling it a lurk case. It's not.

More dismissiveness.

[Thor665]

I also asked you to tell me the case - and you managed to post you saying you found my predecessor's scummy.

More derpiness

[Thor665]

@Reck - c'mon, one of the people voting me is doing it because my commentary makes "too much sense" and another is doing it because, 1/3 of his case against me is "didn't explain an RVS vote when it was made"
And I think both of them are town.
This case is fail - prove me wrong.

[xRECKONERx]

Oh you're right, now that you're in the game we should totally ignore any valid points we had against your predecessors. A replacement totally invalidates former reads.

[Thor665]

What are these valid points?

[Thor665]

Actually, Reck, your little whine of "baaaaw, Thor is saying we can't use old cases" when I said nothing of the sort got my dander up. Here, you even did some of the work for me;

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p3595034

You quoted them - and I checked your iso - these are literally the only points you raise.

So, kondi is scummy for a meta reason of playing badly, and he plays badly as scum (and certainly not as town...)
And then weirdalex didn't do much, but he didn't look town.

OH SNAP! Super awesome case! Dang man, I'm sorry, I didn't realize the case on me was that good.

No, you're lynching this slot because it has been fail lurk sack and not helping - that's very clear from those points, translated all they say is "unhelpful slot must die na0w!" which is all well and good except;
1. That's what I've been saying about the case.
and
2. I've, since replacing in, provided a wealth of active action from the slot, suggesting that wanting to kill it because it's been unhelpful is already dead reasoning.
and
3. You're ignoring two other fail non-active slots (that are still fail and non-active, if that's what excites you) and are also ignoring Uphill and Grimm who are actually capable of having legit scum cases made on them.

Instead you're going to whine at me in this sadsop way? Reck, get over your bad self, the wagon is fail, get off it and start doing something today other than being snippy with me - because that's all you've done since I showed up, and it's not helping gak all.

[Thor665]

Well, actually it has helped me look clever, because I'm charming and awesome when bantering with people.
But we're talking helpful in the 'advance town's wincon' way, natch.

[xRECKONERx]

Hmm. Somehow, I remembered Alex being on the SleepyKrew wagon... apparently I was mistaken. What the fuck.

Still not voting Grimm. His case on Soda feels genuine. Plus OMGMETA means he's town.

I'll unvote you if we can both agree on an alternate wagon. While I still think kondi was scummy, my memory of alex was seriously off, and you're right, you've been active and helpful. Plus my point of you being dismissiveScum doesn't work anymore since the case WAS shitty.

Unvote

so who's it gonna be, and don't say Grimm

[Pine]

Sorry Thor. I'm reasonably sure that scum lie within {Uphill, Soda, Thor} and we're getting close to deadline. Everything you've said so far is consistent and fits together right, and it almost feels...I don't know, calling it "too consistent" sounds cliche. The plus side of this is that if you flip Town, then the doubts about all the work you've done go away, and we can really home in on scum.

Oh dear gawd, I've committed the scumtell of "presenting reasoning" and "having a logical thought process that can be followed".
My payment is - 'after death we can trust your reads...but we shan't trust them just yet due to you needing death'.

What is this gak? (I'd be careful about calling Yates dumb with that as your vote reasoning, natch - at least Yates calls his tells scummy and probably believes it)
If I call it gut, will that soothe the sting of your buttsoreness?

Unvote: Reck
Vote: Grimm

I'm also down with an Uphill lynch.
I oppose the Thor derp wagon.