Mini 1277: The West Wing Mafia (Game Over)

[Spartan_N30]

OK, after reading page 2, i have a Pro town read of Pine.

He seems legit, he doesn't BS people and tells it like it is, and his play doesn't seem consistent with scum

[nintendoaddict1]

I have ADD too Spartan. Your point?

[Spartan_N30]

I believe the wagon swelled to that point not because of anything Spartan did but because a

large wagon early in the game is a good and useful thing for town.

If the first two votes had been on you, I believe the wagon would still have reached that point.

I find this Troubling. Not because it concerns me, but rather, the fact that a large wagon on the first day is NOT a good thing. i mean how is that even possible when i could have been lynched easily if i didn't get in before more people found that the day started and went "Oh look, this guy is at L-2 and he hasn't even posted, i want to get rid of him before he does anything" It could have been that those 2 people who came in late were mafia and hammered before i was even aware

How do you respond to that? Mr. Pirate lemon?

[nintendoaddict1]

I believe the wagon swelled to that point not because of anything Spartan did but because a

large wagon early in the game is a good and useful thing for town.

If the first two votes had been on you, I believe the wagon would still have reached that point.

I find this Troubling. Not because it concerns me, but rather, the fact that a large wagon on the first day is NOT a good thing. i mean how is that even possible when i could have been lynched easily if i didn't get in before more people found that the day started and went "Oh look, this guy is at L-2 and he hasn't even posted, i want to get rid of him before he does anything" It could have been that those 2 people who came in late were mafia and hammered before i was even aware

How do you respond to that? Mr. Pirate lemon?

I have to say something here...

If there was a wagon at L-2 so early on Day 1, do you honestly believe two scum would be stupid enough to hammer? No, they would both be signing their death warrants.

[Spartan_N30]

I believe the wagon swelled to that point not because of anything Spartan did but because a

large wagon early in the game is a good and useful thing for town.

If the first two votes had been on you, I believe the wagon would still have reached that point.

I find this Troubling. Not because it concerns me, but rather, the fact that a large wagon on the first day is NOT a good thing. i mean how is that even possible when i could have been lynched easily if i didn't get in before more people found that the day started and went "Oh look, this guy is at L-2 and he hasn't even posted, i want to get rid of him before he does anything" It could have been that those 2 people who came in late were mafia and hammered before i was even aware

How do you respond to that? Mr. Pirate lemon?

I have to say something here...

If there was a wagon at L-2 so early on Day 1, do you honestly believe two scum would be stupid enough to hammer? No, they would both be signing their death warrants.

Perhapse, but then again, an Towny could just as easly see the wagon and automaticly think im scum.
YMMV as i see it

[nintendoaddict1]

I believe the wagon swelled to that point not because of anything Spartan did but because a

large wagon early in the game is a good and useful thing for town.

If the first two votes had been on you, I believe the wagon would still have reached that point.

I find this Troubling. Not because it concerns me, but rather, the fact that a large wagon on the first day is NOT a good thing. i mean how is that even possible when i could have been lynched easily if i didn't get in before more people found that the day started and went "Oh look, this guy is at L-2 and he hasn't even posted, i want to get rid of him before he does anything" It could have been that those 2 people who came in late were mafia and hammered before i was even aware

How do you respond to that? Mr. Pirate lemon?

I have to say something here...

If there was a wagon at L-2 so early on Day 1, do you honestly believe two scum would be stupid enough to hammer? No, they would both be signing their death warrants.

Perhapse, but then again, an Towny could just as easly see the wagon and automaticly think im scum.
YMMV as i see it

Why would a townie put you at L-1 when you hadn't posted yet?

[Spartan_N30]

I believe the wagon swelled to that point not because of anything Spartan did but because a

large wagon early in the game is a good and useful thing for town.

If the first two votes had been on you, I believe the wagon would still have reached that point.

I find this Troubling. Not because it concerns me, but rather, the fact that a large wagon on the first day is NOT a good thing. i mean how is that even possible when i could have been lynched easily if i didn't get in before more people found that the day started and went "Oh look, this guy is at L-2 and he hasn't even posted, i want to get rid of him before he does anything" It could have been that those 2 people who came in late were mafia and hammered before i was even aware

How do you respond to that? Mr. Pirate lemon?

I have to say something here...

If there was a wagon at L-2 so early on Day 1, do you honestly believe two scum would be stupid enough to hammer? No, they would both be signing their death warrants.

Perhapse, but then again, an Towny could just as easly see the wagon and automaticly think im scum.
YMMV as i see it

Why would a townie put you at L-1 when you hadn't posted yet?

Like i said. YMMV
Allthough, if i was that townie that put me at L-1, it would have been because i just saw the vote count and thought that the guy already posted. Dumb yes, but it could happen!

[Gila]

Wow, this game certainly started with a bang. So far, I'm liking AurorusVox as town, because his arguments seem solid even if I don't perfectly agree with everything. I can definately see the benefit of a large wagon day one, because it got us out of the RVS pretty quick. Vel seems decently scummy so far, although I will reserve judgement until I see how he continues to play. I'm not liking eldarad either mostly because it seems like he is voting AurorusVox simply because AV was pushing on Vel. Not acknowledging a random wagon in page one may not be super scummy, but it certainly warrants some pushing of said person in my opinion. I'm not so sure about Pine or nintendoaddict yet. Spartan seems a bit lost.

VOTE: eldarad

[Spartan_N30]

I'm not lost, I'm just a little P.O.ed and strung out

[ChannelDelibird]

"The President, while riding his Vote Count, came to a sudden arboreal stop."

Spartan_N30 - 3 (Empking's Alt, Oman, Nobody Special)
AurorusVox - 2 (Velazanth, eldarad)
Pine - 1 (nintendoaddict1)
Velazanth - 1 (AurorusVox)
nintendoaddict1 - 1 (Pine)
eldarad - 1 (Gila)

Not voting - 4 (DarthYoshi, Mist Beauty, LanseVeritas, Spartan_N30)

7 votes to lynch. Deadline is 1:47 PM GMT on Friday 9th December.

[nintendoaddict1]

Pine I think I may have figured out who your role is. And if I'm right, it could be either a Town

or

Mafia role.

[Velazanth]

I'm not lost, I'm just a little P.O.ed and strung out

Why strung out? Chill man, just help scumhunt. Why the rage? If you're town you shouldn't have anything to be upset about. (and drugs are bad, mkayy) Where's all this anxiety coming from?

[Spartan_N30]

I'm not lost, I'm just a little P.O.ed and strung out

Why strung out? Chill man, just help scumhunt. Why the rage? If you're town you shouldn't have anything to be upset about. (and drugs are bad, mkayy) Where's all this anxiety coming from?

Mountain Dew.

[Velazanth]

Pine I think I may have figured out who your role is. And if I'm right, it could be either a Town

or

Mafia role.

I don't even think Pine buys his own case against you. It's generally unsupported and gambity and it raises my suspicion of him. I've seen him make much stronger cases. Certainly more than "more votes on nintendo pl0x"

[nintendoaddict1]

Pine I think I may have figured out who your role is. And if I'm right, it could be either a Town

or

Mafia role.

I don't even think Pine buys his own case against you. It's generally unsupported and gambity and it raises my suspicion of him. I've seen him make much stronger cases. Certainly more than "more votes on nintendo pl0x"

Well would anyone like to know what role I think Pine has? As in character.

[Velazanth]

Partial Claim

: I am not a Bartlett staffer, but I am a Democrat loyal to the Bartlett administration.

Discuss.

Something you deduced from this?

[nintendoaddict1]

Partial Claim

: I am not a Bartlett staffer, but I am a Democrat loyal to the Bartlett administration.

Discuss.

Something you deduced from this?

That and his next post. And the fact that he looks like scum to me.

[Velazanth]

Hit me with a theory sir.

[nintendoaddict1]

Hit me with a theory sir.

John Hoynes. Think about it.

Was more significant than Jed's Son-in-Law, was a supporter of the Bartlet Admin. and played a part in the last two seasons. And he was not Bartlett staff.

[Velazanth]

Pine

: Did you author

Full Disclosure

?

[Empking's Alt]

Unvote, Vote; Vela

[Mist Beauty]

Ah, nice to see some familiar faces. Sorry for not posting earlier, I was lazy and waited to be PMed

[eldarad]

Hoynes was part of the Bartlet administration...

I have a name in mind, but since it has no consequence whether I am right or not, I'm not going to share it. Anyone who wishes to discuss Pine's partial claim further needs to first justify how their guessing of Pine's role is beneficial for scumhunting.

[Empking's Alt]

Yeah bun not a

staffer

.

[nintendoaddict1]

Hoynes was part of the Bartlet administration...

I have a name in mind, but since it has no consequence whether I am right or not, I'm not going to share it. Anyone who wishes to discuss Pine's partial claim further needs to first justify how their guessing of Pine's role is beneficial for scumhunting.

Pine said he wasn't a Bartlett

staffer

. John Hoynes is not staff to The President. He has his own employees.