Open 363 - GAME OVER-SK WIN-They Ball No More

[projectmatt]

How much mafia experience do you have?

I have four completed games onsite and I play frequently on a live mafia site, although this is much different.

@At anyone who thinks that RQS is a scumtell

, I would really like for you to explain how you view it as so. It seems silly and idiotic to me that anyone could see that as an actual SCUMTELL. But, you know, alright.

I'm specifically asking

Xaxle

here as to what's "scummy and bad" about RQS. I don't have long, but I'll be back soon. Xalxe's posts sound very forced in tone and I'm happy with casting him off today, but I want to observe more before I make a choice.

Everybody should answer this questions:

Who is your top suspect today as far as day one goes, and why?

What do you think about the user vijay2, and why?

Vote count 1.03

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Shattered Viewpoint - 1 (Xalxe)
Tajun - 1 (The Acting Method)
DeasVail - 3 (Tajun, DonJosh, vijay2vasandani)
The Acting Method - 1 (DeasVail)
vijay2vasandani - 2 (Adc75, whispersilk)
DonJosh - 1 (projectmatt)
Xalxe – 3 (Voided Mafia, ShatteredViewpoint, Amrun)

Not Voting - 1 (Vadinci)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at December 18th, 2011 at 11:59 PDT

Spoiler: Vote History

DeasVail -

Xalxe

--> The Acting Method
vijay2vasandani

Amrun

-->

whispersilk

--> Daesveal
Vadinci
whispersilk - vijay2vasandani
Adc75 - vijay2vasandani
Xalxe - Shattered Viewpoint
projectmatt - Donjosh
Voidedmafia - Xalxe
Tajun -

Vadinci

--> Deasvail
Amrun -

The Acting Method

--> Xalxe
DonJosh - Daesvail
The Acting Method - Tajun
Shattered Viewpoint – Xalxe

[Xalxe]

Also I find that the people are scummy because RQS is a great way to contribute without actually contributing.

I have answered your first question already.

Top suspect currently is Acting Method.

Why is this question relevant?

[projectmatt]

Why do you think that RQS is not a contribution? Am I not contributing right now with my questions? Getting people to voice their thoughts on specific things is very important and Xaxle, you can NOT say to me that RVS is a great way to contribute, but RQS is not. Really?

[Xalxe]

You're strawmanning; I never said the RVS was of any value. Additionally, RQS bears absolutely no effect on the rest of the game; I don't give a flying fuck about your location and how often you post. If I care I'll check your posts and find the pattern.

[The Acting Method]

Just the overall thoughts on DV's reaction to my reaction to him... I definitely didn't quite see it like that myself, but the way you worded it makes it seem even More scummy than I felt it was.

And to Matt, I'd like to know why we should answer those questions...

But for the sake of it:
I'd say my top scum read is probably DV followed by Xalxe, but even then I don't feel they are completely scummy, just the most scummy. They are probably more null-leaning scum for me.

On VJ he's null leaning town to me but that's my opinion.

So Matt now to throw a question at you: What are your answers to those questions and why should we answer them?

I think he wants it for some secret reason to see where to place his own vote.

[projectmatt]

You RVS'd at the start of this game, so you are saying your play wasn't valuable, Xalxe?

Acting, I'll explain my motives when everybody (or more then one person) has done it.

[Xalxe]

1) It was not a serious vote, and was not intended to be so.
2) No, you'll explain them now because nobody else will answer until you do.

[projectmatt]

..Yeah, I know. But you are attacking him for using RQS, which is "useless" when you've clearly done something very useless yourself.

We'll see, Xalxe. Acting already did.

[The Acting Method]

Matt, Xaxle has a point, I only did it because I felt it might lure you into doing it. I'll give you one post to do it of your own free will before I consider it a scum tatic and vote you.

[Xalxe]

Hngh people my name is XALXE. Not XAXLE.

That is all.

[DeasVail]

Ok, I'll try to explain my thought process I guess.

-I wanted to vote Amrun for the lulz, but decided against it because I could get attacked for it and obviously amrun's reaction to it wouldn't be of any use. I thought other people's reactions to it could be interesting, but decided that it would probably too hard to differentiate between town and scum reactions and could put unnecessary heat on me- so I just voted Xalxe.

-I ask a couple of questions to Acting, and I thought he was a little bit scummy, so I voted him, mostly to see how he would react since my vote on Xalxe was useless, and from that I thought he was a bit more scummy.

Overall, I just thought it was silly being called out on a change of vote when my original vote was so silly.

In response to Matt's questions:

I'd say The Acting Method because of little things that I've mentioned.

About vijay, all I can really respond to is his case on me. I'm not really sure yet. He could be town, or he could be scum forseeing a lynch on me. I really don't know. Maybe I'll take another look, but I don't think I'll come up with anything.

[DeasVail]

Update: I'd say Vijay's slightly leaning town for me.

ProjectMatt: I believe it scummy not to answer your own questions. And, why vijay?

[vijay2vasandani]

Just the overall thoughts on DV's reaction to my reaction to him... I definitely didn't quite see it like that myself, but the way you worded it makes it seem even More scummy than I felt it was.

And to Matt, I'd like to know why we should answer those questions...

But for the sake of it:
I'd say my top scum read is probably DV followed by Xalxe, but even then I don't feel they are completely scummy, just the most scummy. They are probably more null-leaning scum for me.

On VJ he's null leaning town to me but that's my opinion.

So Matt now to throw a question at you: What are your answers to those questions and why should we answer them?

I think he wants it for some secret reason to see where to place his own vote.

Acting I'm assuming that first paragraph is in regards to my points on DV? Just confirming.

How much mafia experience do you have?

I have four completed games onsite and I play frequently on a live mafia site, although this is much different.

@At anyone who thinks that RQS is a scumtell

, I would really like for you to explain how you view it as so. It seems silly and idiotic to me that anyone could see that as an actual SCUMTELL. But, you know, alright.

I'm specifically asking

Xaxle

here as to what's "scummy and bad" about RQS. I don't have long, but I'll be back soon. Xalxe's posts sound very forced in tone and I'm happy with casting him off today, but I want to observe more before I make a choice.

Everybody should answer this questions:

Who is your top suspect today as far as day one goes, and why?

What do you think about the user vijay2, and why?

I don't think Xalxe has a problem with RQS in the sense that he doesn't like questions, he just finds that the stock standard "what timezone are you in, etc" is an attempt to make it look like you are contributing to town. But no, I don't agree that it is a scumtell.

Top suspect is DV, for the reasons posted when I voted for him. As to vijay2vasandani, that guy is awesome XD

[Xalxe]

I don't think Xalxe has a problem with RQS in the sense that he doesn't like questions, he just finds that the stock standard "what timezone are you in, etc" is an attempt to make it look like you are contributing to town.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

NOW STOP ANSWERING HIS DAMN QUESTIONS UNTIL HE EXPLAINS

[The Acting Method]

Yes the first paragraph is to you VJ the rest is to Matt, and once again Matt, please post your responses.

Because frankly I find your questions more scummy than day one questions like the ones I posted (And I see the logic Xalxe has, disagree but that personal especially with the kind that I made, but then since I'm an activity buff, I ask those questions because I'm lazy and don't feel like having to take the time after to do a post analysis of when they last posted.)

Plus your seeming unwillingness to answer unless others do (and Vj and Des, I'm disappointed that you answered them before he did.) makes me think you are scum and so, to pressure you into giving your own answers for your questions VOTE: projectmatt

[vijay2vasandani]

Lol I just answered the questions because it was about me XD I don't know if he could use my opinion of myself XD

[The Acting Method]

True, you have a point Vj...

So DV what's your reasoning?

[DeasVail]

For answering the questions?

Um, because I wanted to and didn't see my answers as particularly detrimental I guess.

[Tajun]

Thank you for the advise Xalxe, but I would like to answer his questions.

I think very little of vijay projectmatt, he has given me no reason to think he is town nor scum. I am also very interested in your reasoning for asking the question. Because this question seems like precisely the type of question scum would ask to get the town talking about a group of posts with little content, rather than trying to find scum. It also gives you the impression of contributing something meaningful without having to actually post any reasoning of your own.

Who do I think is the scummiest? As of those questions, you.

VOTE: Projectmatt

[The Acting Method]

Props to Tajun for explaining in her answers exactly why she wanted to answer them.

I was going to wait for an answer in hopes of a town reason for not answering your own questions but instead I'm going to cut to the chase.

unvote

VOTE: Projectmatt

[vijay2vasandani]

FoS The Acting Method

maybe just a tad too opportunistic there.

[Tajun]

Agreed on that one, not to mention that he was already voting Projectmatt.

[vijay2vasandani]

Lol fail XD

HoS The Acting Method

[The Acting Method]

Really need to go through my posts before voting... hmmm, I may need to take a different playstyle approach if this one is making me constantly under suspiscion.

[Amrun]

vijay, why no vote and instead an HoS?