Open 379: JK9++ (Game Over)

[Candy Corn Vampire]

That doesn't really make sense Maru but whatever it feels like your making up stuff now and calling it scummy. I'd like to hear to hear why its scummy to disagree on a case unless I was trying to defend my partner. If he's town and I'm scum why wouldn't I just roll with it.

[Phillammon]

@Lowell: If I'm brutally honest, me neither...
@CCV: I concur, as I think I may have said. If I haven't said it, then okay, Baa.
In any case, I think that if we're having trouble deciding between multiple lynches, having a vig here, looking to prove, might help- though it helps less that I'm one of the players on the lynch list.

[Chevre]

Vote Count 1-6

(4) Maruchan (kondi2424, Lord Mhork, Fennin, Phillammon)
(4) Fennin (Candy Corn Vampire, IceGuy, Malee, The Mini-Librarian)
(3) Phillammon (Lowell, Chimera, Maruchan)

(2) Not Voting (glynman, Pizzadudes7)

With

13

players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.
The deadline for Day 1 is

1 April 2012 @ 8:30am U.S. Central Standard Time

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Prodding glynman.

[kondi2424]

You know what, I'll accept the Fennin wagon. VOTE: Fennin

And I believe it's hypoclaim time.

[Maruchan]

its always hard to get people on scum wagons. its easy to get people on town wagons.

[Lord Mhork]

Your definition of scum is different then mine.

Mine is: scum= Not town
SK=scum by my definition.

And i obv think the claim is fake because i think he is scum, and that doesn't go away due to his claim. That should be rather self-obvious.

I believe in specificity, Maruchan. Scum is mafia, serial killer is serial killer. Also, your logic is a touch circular there. Is there no possibility in your mind that Phillammon is actually the Vigilante?

I have no clue why anyone is voting maru.

Here's a hint, he's acting kinda scummy.

Here's another hint: ZOMG MARU REFUSED TO UNVOTE BECAUSE SCUMMY GUY CLAIMED PR HE MUST BE SCUM CUZ PR CLAIM AUTO MAKES HIM INNOCENT NO MATTER THE PAST SCUMMIENESS.

thats why there is a wagon on me more like.

I'm just saying that a Power Role claim warrants some consideration, yeah? You don't just drive through a lynch on one of the town's greater assets.

Maru, you have a point when you say that people shouldn't jump off a wagon just because there's a claim. Indeed, several people have stayed on specifically because they didn't believe me. The problem being, you are not one of them. You jumped off because I wasn't going anywhere, onto CCV, who so far has had very little put against them and no votes- ie going even less far than my wagon- then jumped back on to me, where there had been no new votes on me and the wagon was still at a standstill. On an unrelated point, you're right, he probably won't defend himself unless under pressure, so I'm upgrading my FoS to a "Vote if it gets big enough". This puts Fennin at L-3 with Chimera, Maru and myself (I think) all supporting the lynch without voting on it until it goes big.

I think you're town, pal, but a lot of other people do not. This is likely due to the fact that all you have been doing as of late is obsequiously kowtowing to any demands presented and generally not trying to make a big splash. A word of advice: vote with who you think is scum. Don't worry about putting it on the biggest wagon at the time or bowing to peer pressure, just put the vote where you think it belongs.

Granted I didn't give the most thorough case ever, but I'm sort of surprised more people haven't joined the phillwagon on their own accord.

My issue is that you do not drive through a lynch on a claimed Power Role without serious consideration that they may actually be what they say they are.

its always hard to get people on scum wagons. its easy to get people on town wagons.

Sigh... You think that Phillammon is either mafia or serial killer, yes? Then what's wrong with holding him to direct the Night Kill, hmm? In all honesty, we can use him as a second lynch. I'm all for lurkerscum Fennin today, but we also need to have a serious discussion about who Phillammon should shoot dead.

I nominate Pizzadudes, for lurkers are vig-bait.

[Phillammon]

Kay then. Tommorrow, I will be voting whoever I think is scummiest straight off. As right now that would put him onto L-1, I'll leave it for now. I won't bother hypoclaiming, given I've made an actual claim, but could we start a secondary vote for who I should shoot?

[Phillammon]

As of yet, by the way:

Very Unofficial Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 7

Fennin

- 5 - Candy Corn Vampire, IceGuy, Malee, The Mini-Librarian, kondi2424 - (L-2)

Maruchan

- 3 - Fennin, Lord Mhork, Phillammon - (L-4)

Phillammon

- 3 - Lowell, Chimera, Maruchan - (L-4)
Players not voting: glynman, Pizzadudes7

Very Unofficial Vig Vote Count

Highest vote at end of day to vig

Pizzadudes7

- 1 - Lord Mhork

[IceGuy]

Kay then. Tommorrow, I will be voting whoever I think is scummiest straight off. As right now that would put him onto L-1, I'll leave it for now. I won't bother hypoclaiming, given I've made an actual claim, but could we start a secondary vote for who I should shoot?

We won't give you one player; that would be easily exploited. We'll give you three players and you'll choose one.

[Maruchan]

Sigh... You think that Phillammon is either mafia or serial killer, yes? Then what's wrong with holding him to direct the Night Kill, hmm? In all honesty, we can use him as a second lynch. I'm all for lurkerscum Fennin today, but we also need to have a serious discussion about who Phillammon should shoot dead.

I nominate Pizzadudes, for lurkers are vig-bait.

I actually don't mind this plan.

We lynch Fennin, we get phil to NK pizza, and based on the number of deaths tonight/whether or not we think phil is SK we lynch him or not tomorrow.


Decent plan.

Anybody opposed?

[Maruchan]

Kay then. Tommorrow, I will be voting whoever I think is scummiest straight off. As right now that would put him onto L-1, I'll leave it for now. I won't bother hypoclaiming, given I've made an actual claim, but could we start a secondary vote for who I should shoot?

We won't give you one player; that would be easily exploited. We'll give you three players and you'll choose one.

Hmm ice guy has a point.

SO pizza is one candidate, who should the other two be? Wasn't there another lurker in here too?

[Phillammon]

Yes. Glynn as second target, and I was thinking that a bus could end me. Also, what of potential JOAT roleblocks and jails? I'm probably gonna get scum nightkilled anyway, but I was just wondering.

[Phillammon]

Are we still using the old hypoclaim list? If so:
Candy Corn Vampire ---> Iceguy
Chimera ---> Pizza
Fennin --> LYNCH
glynman
IceGuy ---> Lord Mhork
kondi2424
Lord Mhork ---> Lowell
Lowell
Malee
Maruchan ---> Malee
Phillammon ---> CLAIMED
Pizzadudes7 ---> Librarian
The Mini-Librarian

[Candy Corn Vampire]

Anyone with a low post count, glynman doesn't count cause he probably going to get replaced. Or at least I'd like to wait to lynch until we know about him. Lowell or chimera seem like a good option but that's just my opinion. Or we could do it democratically and have everyone pick 3 and take the 3 top choices.

[Lord Mhork]

I'd rather not do it by low post count, if you don't mind, Candy Corn Vampire. We need to do this democratically. Heck I only have ten posts total, yet I doubt anyone would say I've been lurking. You could give your opinion though. Who do you want to see vigged?

[Candy Corn Vampire]

We'd certainly exclude you since your posts are quite thorough. But pizza Lowell and chimera are the three I would submit.

[kondi2424]

Why not Maru?

[Phillammon]

Maru is considered obviously town by everyone on my wagon, so if I shot Maru, and Maru flipped town, I'd be a dead cert for lynching the following morning.

[Lord Mhork]

>_>

That's not pro-town thinking, pal. Do you think that Maruchan is scum?

[Phillammon]

Yes, quite frankly. Are there any other provisional "Vigilante should shoot this" lists?

[Lord Mhork]

What do you mean by that, Phillammon?

[Maruchan]

Why not Maru?

everyone is puting forth 3 names THEY want to see vigged. If yo uwant me, put my name. CCV obviously doesn't want me vigged, or they'd have said my name.

Pizza lowell chimera are good I'd say.

[kondi2424]

Oh, I seemed to have missed that.

Maru, TML, and Pizza are my picks.

[The Mini-Librarian]

Vig votes: pizza, kondi, chimera.

We should start the hypoclaiming over again (new information, blah blah blah.) I don't really no how to create the thing myself or I would.

[Maruchan]

Code: Select all

Candy Corn Vampire
Chimera
Fennin  ------> LYNCH
glynman
IceGuy
kondi2424
Lord Mhork
Lowell
Malee
Maruchan -------> Malee
Phillammon -------> CLAIMED
Pizzadudes7
The Mini-Librarian