D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[WrathChild]

I'm on the road, but think I'll have some time this morning after breakfast.

Hey, Slaand,
High post count does not = town BTW.

[Slandaar]

Hey WC
Large Walls of nothingness not = town BTW.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Iecerint’s fence-sitting on Slaandar at Post 57 is noted.

Ooba lurking does not give me happy thoughts. Low content ooba is generally scum ooba. I need to review his activity in the archive …

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Doesn't require them to all be scum, just SD. A chainsaw is player C attacks player B for attacking player A.

I know what a chainsaw is. You need to explain how Shadow pointing out terrible logic / attacks makes him scummy and not scum-hunting – ie you need to explain why is attacks are scummy.

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cos I didnt know this game had started again?

link to archive and also magna can explain why hes accusing me of avoiding a thread I had no way of knowing existed would be great.

Oh really? You didn’t know the game had started? Yet in the next post after I call you out for avoiding the thread (12 hours later) you suddenly have found the thread? It's just luck that you happened to 'find' the thread right after I called out you for avoiding it. Lulz, no.

Since you’ve made it an issue I’m about to turn this explanation into charcoal –

March 8th – DN posts his Reboot sign-up thread..

On March 9th you posted in that thread saying you were “confirmed to go again!”. So clearly as of March 9th you knew that the game was restarting. Did you just 'forget' to keep reading this reboot thread where he directly posted that the game was up? Strike 1.

Deathnote opens the game thread again on March 14th at 7:05pm EDT. You don’t post here until Sunday the 18th at 11:50am EDT after I call you out.

What is your on-site activity between those points? 8 posts on site including a post in an ended game here in Theme Park. Are you saying you are so incompetent you couldn’t see that this game restarted despite you posting in the Reboot thread and posting in Theme Park WHILE THE GAME WAS GOING? Strike 2 and 3. You are out scum.

Yeah, your explanation doesn’t hold water. The scum-tell of ‘showing up only when called out while being active elsewhere on site’ applies right here.

UNVOTE: WrathChild
VOTE: Slaandar

Malee is scum probably too... her replacing out is a scumtell from her. She made all that effort in those posts and then gives up? really? no. Thats not town.

So giving effort is a scum-tell and replacing out is a scum-tell? Yeah, you need rope.

also anyone accusing me in any suspicous light of avoiding a thread is prob scum

I had highest post count in thread before crash taken into consideration why would I avoid the thread purposefully? answer I wouldnt whatever alignment based on my previous post count

Oh look how cute … flailing scum!

Why are you avoiding the thread so far? Perhaps because, pre-crash, Town MoI, Shadow and Andrius all found you totes scummy and were moving to have you hung / blasterized?

And the “I have a high post count I can’t be scum” is so funny …

Why would I lie?

Because you are scum, right? Do I win a prize for being correct?

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But that's not why Fennin voted Slandaar. He admits that Malee just provided a summary and not analysis, but his claimed reason for voting Slandaar was that he somehow inferred that Slandaar was afraid Malee's play would develop into something useful. If he suspected Slandaar for the reason you claim, why didn't he just say that?

Sorry, not buying it. Malee’s posts did have analysis and clearly Fennin had to have voiced that reason at some point for you to give it as here. Seems to me the crux of your vote on Fennin is that he ignored your questions which is personally motivated IMO.

What are your thoughts on Slaandar Kdub?

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[Slandaar]

Magna Explain why I as scum would not post WHILE KNOWING THE THREAD EXISTS untill you call me out? and then I think OMG BETTER POST!!! seems pretty terrible play as scum dont you think? What benefits do I get as scum for doing such a play? why did I suddenly decide to megalurk when previously I posted so much? I could have lurked before the crash but it coincided with it. And oh look im back posting after I find thread??? strange.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Magna Explain why I as scum would not post WHILE KNOWING THE THREAD EXISTS untill you call me out? and then I think OMG BETTER POST!!! seems pretty terrible play as scum dont you think? What benefits do I get as scum for doing such a play? why did I suddenly decide to megalurk when previously I posted so much? I could have lurked before the crash but it coincided with it. And oh look im back posting after I find thread??? strange.

I don't know why you didn't post here while posting all over site ... again perhaps the fact you were getting some significant scrutiny before the game crashed. You tell me - why were you avoiding the thread? I see in this post you don't address the timeline work or dispute it in any way.

What were going to do after I called you out? Not post at all? That's not viable given your activity on site. So you put yourself in a bad position by dodging the thread and are now scrambling. It's not like you would have been in a better position by continuing to avoid posting here.

Your reaction (OMGUSing everyone who points out that your activity is scummy and popping up the second you were called out) certainly doesn't come from a Townie perspective.

What does Town gain from not actively posting in thread while posting all over site and having acknowledged the existence of the Reboot thread? Why don't you explain that for us?

[WrathChild]

Hey WC
Large Walls of nothingness not = town BTW.

I'm not the one saying I'm town because I posted a lot. Wall of nothingness is not finished btw. I just happen to have a business trip this week and am having a hard time finishing it.

[Slandaar]

I didnt say that either actually...

If you can go and find where I said that please or are you lying?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I didnt say that either actually...

If you can go and find where I said that please or are you lying?

Oh so Post 76 was pointless fluff and not an assertion that wall-posting on WrathChild's part did not mean he was Town?

[Slandaar]

I don't know why you didn't post here while posting all over site ...

I have told you. I did not know the thread existed.

Now you admit there is no scum motivation/benefit to it... You dont know. So why are you voting me?

What does your timeline prove? that I didnt post here because I didnt know the thread existed?

One thing to note this 'ended game in themepark' was subscribed to as it had been going for 4 months or so... go check. Meaning I never saw the list of games.

I received no PM

I did not know thread was here untill I checked on Sunday and oh I found it and ... posted.

[Slandaar]

Oh so Post 76 was pointless fluff and not an assertion that wall-posting on WrathChild's part did not mean he was Town?

Well it doesn't mean hes town

But it wasnt really content so call it what you want.

How was WC's post more useful?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I have told you. I did not know the thread existed.Now you admit there is no scum motivation/benefit to it... You dont know. So why are you voting me?What does your timeline prove? that I didnt post here because I didnt know the thread existed?One thing to note this 'ended game in themepark' was subscribed to as it had been going for 4 months or so... go check. Meaning I never saw the list of games.I received no PMI did not know thread was here untill I checked on Sunday and oh I found it and ... posted.

Did you or did you not post in the Queue Reboot thread?
Did you stop looking at that thread the second you posted in it?
Are you suggesting you never ONCE looked at any other threads other than the ones you had been posting in every time you came to MS between Wednesday and Sunday?

Since I've now told you twice a viable reason why you as scum would lurk why do you keep repeating that there is no scum motivation? That's a clear lie.

[Slandaar]

Did you or did you not post in the Queue Reboot thread?
Did you stop looking at that thread the second you posted in it?
Are you suggesting you never ONCE looked at any other threads other than the ones you had been posting in every time you came to MS between Wednesday and Sunday?

Since I've now told you twice a viable reason why you as scum would lurk why do you keep repeating that there is no scum motivation? That's a clear lie.

Yes to all

What is this viable reason Magna? You seem to think I as scum would not be able to see how bad I would look if I was caught not posting here but posting elsewhere purposefully.

Which is pretty ridiculous.

How about this if you still insist I am scum we go 1v1 today if im lynched you are turbo lynched next? and vice versa if you flip town first.

[Slandaar]

Magna thinks I knew this thread existed and ignored it...

I don't know why you didn't post here while posting all over site

Since I've now told you twice a viable reason why you as scum would lurk

Very convincing.

[Slandaar]

Magna Explain why I as scum would not post WHILE KNOWING THE THREAD EXISTS untill you call me out? and then I think OMG BETTER POST!!! seems pretty terrible play as scum dont you think?

What benefits do I get as scum for doing such a play?

why did I suddenly decide to megalurk when previously I posted so much? I could have lurked before the crash but it coincided with it. And oh look im back posting after I find thread??? strange.

Please answer Magna

Either 1. You think im the worst mafia player ever

or

2. You are scum.

or I guess

3. You are in fact the worst scumhunter ever.

[Iecerint]

Iece You can now explain to me why you think scum me cant decipher the fact that by lying instead of telling the truth I run the very big risk of weaving a web of lies I cannot escape from so taking a small hit is better than a potentially lethal one.

Good question!

Iecerint’s fence-sitting on Slaandar at Post 57 is noted.

My point was to say that Shadow's point was a sound point (i.e. responding to hypothesizedTown-Slandaar's perceived misread). I think and have always thought Slandaar is town, annoyance at recent behavior notwithstanding.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Yes to all

So you realistically expect people to believe that you saw the Reboot Sign-up thread, posted that you were back in again in said thread, never once checked the thread again for status updates and despite posting on site never once looked at the Large Theme list of games to see if this game was restarted?

Why didn’t you bookmark / subscribe to the sign-up thread like you did with War in Heaven?

Why didn’t you check back once in 9 days to see the status of the game in the Reboot thread?

Seriously your behavior makes absolutely no sense. At all. The more realistic scenario is that you were dodging the thread. I know for a fact you consider that a scum-tell.

What is this viable reason Magna? You seem to think I as scum would not be able to see how bad I would look if I was caught not posting here but posting elsewhere purposefully.

Again since you are incapable of reading –

You had picked up significant pressure pre-crash for your scummy play. Andrius, Shadow and myself all were pushing you. Thus laying low would allow your scum-buddies to get the Fennin alternate wagon going strong again.

Hey look ... a Fennin wagon immediately exploded as the thread opened. Imagine that.

You seem to be presenting the situation in a way to suggest that scum (aka yourself) always play completely optimally. This is not the case as slips and scummy play are how scum get caught and lynched. DERP.

How about this if you still insist I am scum we go 1v1 today if im lynched you are turbo lynched next? and vice versa if you flip town first.

Hoping I will back down from pressuring you if you wave the ‘1v1’ flag around? Nope, not happening.

If you really thought I was scum and wanted a 1 v 1 you would have actually voted for me there. You didn’t. So you are more interested in posturing than thinking I am scum.

Die scum die!

Either 1. You think im the worst mafia player ever

or

2. You are scum.

or I guess

3. You are in fact the worst scumhunter ever.

Well I know 2 and 3 are clearly incorrect so if you are setting these up as the only options it would have to be 1.

[MagnaofIllusion]

My point was to say that Shadow's point was a sound point (i.e. responding to hypothesizedTown-Slandaar's perceived misread). I think and have always thought Slandaar is town, annoyance at recent behavior notwithstanding.

Oh look yet another example of a blown post restriction ....

Ok, so you think Slaandar is Town. Is he VI-Town then? Because his tendancy to call everyone who suspects him confirmed scum immediately is a sign he's a pretty bad player then.

[Iecerint]

Iec's point was to say that Shadow's point was a sound point (i.e. responding to hypothesizedTown-Slandaar's perceived misread). Iec thinks and has always thought Slandaar is town, annoyance at recent behavior notwithstanding.

Iecerint errs when Iecerint becomes emotional. <_<

Slandaar had not shown this aspect of his play until recently, which is what Iecerint's recent annoyance refers to. Iecerint has not played with Slandaar before.

Iecerint has built many relational tells around the premise that Slandaar is scum. Iecerint is very reluctant to let go of this premise because it will make Iecerint read the game over again.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Iecerint has built many relational tells around the premise that Slandaar is scum. Iecerint is very reluctant to let go of this premise because it will make Iecerint read the game over again.

Um is this right? You've just come off saying you don't have a scum read on Slandaar and now you have build many relational tells based on him being scum?

[Iecerint]

Iecerint has built many relational tells around the premise that Slandaar is

town

.

Fix'd.

[Foxace36]

Iece You can now explain to me why you think scum me cant decipher the fact that by lying instead of telling the truth I run the very big risk of weaving a web of lies I cannot escape from so taking a small hit is better than a potentially lethal one.

Good question!

Iecerint’s fence-sitting on Slaandar at Post 57 is noted.

My point was to say that Shadow's point was a sound point (i.e. responding to hypothesizedTown-Slandaar's perceived misread). I think and have always thought Slandaar is town, annoyance at recent behavior notwithstanding.

Im on my phone so I cant do too much reading and dont have access to the original thread but arent you supposed to be talking in third person?

VOTE: Iecerint

My vote stands until I see a defense.

[Iecerint]

Iec's point was to say that Shadow's point was a sound point (i.e. responding to hypothesizedTown-Slandaar's perceived misread). Iec thinks and has always thought Slandaar is town, annoyance at recent behavior notwithstanding.

Iecerint errs when Iecerint becomes emotional. <_<

[MagnaofIllusion]

Iecerint errs when Iecerint becomes emotional. <_<

That reminds me ... why are you so 'emotional' over my observation that you were fence-sitting on Slandaar?

[Foxace36]

From, what I've read, that's not the first time you've screwed up your post restriction.

I've seen tactics like this before and I honestly think your post restriction is bullshit.

[Slandaar]

So you realistically expect people to believe that you saw the Reboot Sign-up thread, posted that you were back in again in said thread, never once checked the thread again for status updates and despite posting on site never once looked at the Large Theme list of games to see if this game was restarted?

Well thats the truth.

Why didn’t you bookmark / subscribe to the sign-up thread like you did with War in Heaven?

I subscribed 4 MONTHS ago to WIH... It was a game thread not a signup thread I never subscribe to signup threads.

Why didn’t you check back once in 9 days to see the status of the game in the Reboot thread?

Expected a pm? I dont know... Its hardly scummy not to check a signup thread is it?

Seriously your behavior makes absolutely no sense. At all. The more realistic scenario is that you were dodging the thread. I know for a fact you consider that a scum-tell.

So? I wasnt dodging the thread. I didnt know it existed.

You had picked up significant pressure pre-crash for your scummy play. Andrius, Shadow and myself all were pushing you. Thus laying low would allow your scum-buddies to get the Fennin alternate wagon going strong again.

Hey look ... a Fennin wagon immediately exploded as the thread opened. Imagine that.

OK

So who is scum who is voting Fennin then? and I assume you think Fennin is town. Why is that?

You seem to be presenting the situation in a way to suggest that scum (aka yourself) always play completely optimally. This is not the case as slips and scummy play are how scum get caught and lynched. DERP.

No I am saying I as scum wouldnt play full on retarded which is what you are suggesting.

Hoping I will back down from pressuring you if you wave the ‘1v1’ flag around? Nope, not happening.

If you really thought I was scum and wanted a 1 v 1 you would have actually voted for me there. You didn’t. So you are more interested in posturing than thinking I am scum.

Do you agree? you vote yourself if I am town?

Well I know 2 and 3 are clearly incorrect so if you are setting these up as the only options it would have to be 1.

I think you missed the point. I view you as viewing me as 1 which makes me believe you are 2 or 3 because a townie assuming someone is 1 is 3 or 1 themselves... However you seem intelligent so you are in fact 2. Scum.