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Post Post #7075 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:03 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Isn't Vayne like THE strongest AD carry?



Her or trist.
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Post Post #7076 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:10 am

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How would you define best?
She hurts a LOT, but she's also the squishiest one, AFAIK. Does that make her better or worse than say, Graves who can actually take some punishment and still deals a fuckton?
Trist has a crappy midgame and if you dont do well early you're kinda fucked, but can snowball out of control and prolly has the best diving capacity.
Kog doesnt care where you are, he'll hit you anyways, but that scales off AP.
A good cait/ez can escape pretty well from bad situation, but spell shields trolls them hard
MF and Corki fit somewhere in there.

Teemo is not an AD carry.


They all have their place to fill IMO and all fail against certain things.
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Post Post #7077 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:18 am

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JDodge wrote:the question about the lulu passive in a different post.)

Well I actually looked it up before just claiming that it didin't work, and it doesn't even fire off at towers or wards apparently according to forum threads.[/nyahannoying]
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Post Post #7078 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:21 am

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Fate wrote:Kog'maw has more range, same with Tristana. There are some differences depending on what you want out of your carry.

Its pretty silly to point at one champ and say it is the hardest carry of the gamez

Well, Kog also lacks any zonal control besides his slow (which isn't a great slow tbqh). His range might be better, but I'm defining "hardest carry" as someone who, if properly fed, can absolutely dominate the other team in endgame fights. Vayne's true damage + knockback/stun + damage buff on her tumble mean she can be an absolute monster lategame. Trist is the other one I was considering that can dominate like Vayne, but Vayne has a pretty consistent power level from early till lategame, whereas Trist kind of falls off midgame.
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Post Post #7079 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:32 am

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It really depends on the team comps to how a specific carry can be the hardest carry.
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Post Post #7080 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:55 am

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I'm ready for ww top to get nerfed. Ugh. So annoying, starting dorans, rushing fh/wits.
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Post Post #7081 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:34 pm

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Post Post #7082 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:58 pm

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So I played Orianna in a custom between classes to see why she's so hard.
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Post Post #7083 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:27 pm

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streaming has moved to ranked teams queue with bbm/peg/izzy/bev

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Post Post #7084 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:39 pm

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The stream died ;_;
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Post Post #7085 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:46 pm

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dramonic wrote:The stream died ;_;
for me anywyas.

dram's boyfriend hit R.
All LoL games stop.
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Post Post #7086 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:56 pm

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I dont get it ._.
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Post Post #7087 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:04 pm

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JDodge wrote:streaming has moved to ranked teams queue with bbm/peg/izzy/
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Post Post #7088 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:05 pm

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dramonic wrote:I dont get it ._.

Your boyfriend called you as we were trying to get into a game.
5 minutes later we got in the queue.
Boyfriend hits R.
LoL w/ dram doesn't happen.
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Post Post #7089 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:06 pm

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SO my bf's ult is a phonecall?
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Post Post #7090 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:09 pm

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dramonic wrote:SO my bf's ult is a phonecall?

Which disrupts LoL games yes.
I don't see why that was hard to get. >___________________>

Also we were super-pro the other night when we all started humming the Indiana Jones theme waiting for the game to start.
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Post Post #7091 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:28 pm

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Post Post #7092 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:32 pm

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Post Post #7093 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:38 pm

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There is no answer to which AD Carry is the strongest if you do not provide a context. It entirely depends on the comp you're going for and what your goals throughout the game are.

Early Game Team -> Miss Fortune, Graves, Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Urgot
Late Game Hard Carry -> Vayne, Tristana, Sivir, Ashe
Pushing Comps -> Sivir, Corki, Tristana
Teamfighting -> Miss Fortune, Graves, Sivir, Ashe
Skirmish -> Vayne, Graves, Miss Fortune, Twisted Fate, Ezreal

etc.

You can't ask that question without a context.
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Post Post #7094 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:52 pm

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Post Post #7095 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:07 pm

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I still don't understand Corki at all and how his passive actually helps in anything to do with killing tanks. I'd also argue MF, Cait, and Graves can both be harder late game carries than Ashe depending on the comp.
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Post Post #7096 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:30 pm

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Hinduragi wrote:I still don't understand Corki at all and how his passive actually helps in anything to do with killing tanks. I'd also argue MF, Cait, and Graves can both be harder late game carries than Ashe depending on the comp.

The Q-Slow from Ashe is just insane. So I imagine that in teamfights she turns it on and just AAs the rest of the time.
Ult is a great initiate too.

My 2cents. Still love Caitlyn loads more than Ashe, but Ashe's ult is superfun.
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Post Post #7097 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:44 pm

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Hinduragi wrote:I still don't understand Corki at all and how his passive actually helps in anything to do with killing tanks. I'd also argue MF, Cait, and Graves can both be harder late game carries than Ashe depending on the comp.


It's true damage, so it ignores armour/magic resist effects.

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Post Post #7098 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:46 pm

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Andrius wrote:
Hinduragi wrote:I still don't understand Corki at all and how his passive actually helps in anything to do with killing tanks. I'd also argue MF, Cait, and Graves can both be harder late game carries than Ashe depending on the comp.

The Q-Slow from Ashe is just insane. So I imagine that in teamfights she turns it on and just AAs the rest of the time.
Ult is a great initiate too.

My 2cents. Still love Caitlyn loads more than Ashe, but Ashe's ult is superfun.


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Post Post #7099 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:54 pm

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Bub Bidderskins wrote:
Hinduragi wrote:I still don't understand Corki at all and how his passive actually helps in anything to do with killing tanks. I'd also argue MF, Cait, and Graves can both be harder late game carries than Ashe depending on the comp.


It's true damage, so it ignores armour/magic resist effects.

Yeah, but apply it in an actual team fight. Say, vs. a Shen.
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