Good vs Evil, Law vs Chaos Reboot - Game Over, Good wins

[brizingre1]

People I would not be willing to lynch:

MaguaOfIllusion

People who I didn't even realize were in this game:

Empking
AurorusVox
PeregrineV
Y u no scum
LynchMePls
brizingre1
greenknight
Feysal
Skenvoy
kondi2424
Jackal711
Guy_Named_Riggs
Haze

Everyone Else:

Pine
ManiacalLemon
CooLDog
trekker
Tammy
Shadoweh
kondi2424
Norman
Lord Mhork
Shadow1psc
Foxace36

In other news, this game sucks.

Thats a bit hypocritical coming from you.

[trekker]

Can we just lynch Trekker then? Please? I can only stand so much stupidity before I go on a rampage the sight of which will scar most players for the rest of their days.

can you stop being an elitist prick? you're being a total dick and making this game unenjoyable because your head is too far up your ass. learn the basics of catching scum before you run your mouth and declare yourself above everyone else, or bybthe time the game is over you'll look like a moronic asshole.

[trekker]

i approve or this brizingre1 guy.

[trekker]

of*

[Norman]

everything cool dog says is irrelevant, because he's scum.

Trekker I really hope you're a rainbow wizard of neutral alignment... But yes I agree that Cooldog is a scumbag. It's really just intuition now.

[Shadow1psc]

-1 to all these people talking about cooldog, not voting him, and not responding to my own initial thoughts and accusations on him.

[Norman]

Well if townspeople and neutrals could follow this vote, well then I have no problem in voting Cooldog. Although I still think Pine is scum nevertheless.

Unvote: Pine

Vote: Cooldog
Reason: His conversations are bullshit. I don't care what he says to me in advance.

[trekker]

yea, i'm down.
VOTE: CooLDoG

[PeregrineV]

How do we know that there is a vig? Why are we even speculating about it?

Urge to follow policy lynch rising...

Yeah you do that. And while you're at it why don't you assassinate the vigilante!

WTF, vig claim?????????????

It was started by that CoolDog guy...

Vote: CoolDog

We'll come back to GNR.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Why am I in both lists?

Realized at the last second I realized you were in the game cuz someone else mentioned you. =P

Thats a bit hypocritical coming from you.

LoL...

[ManiacalLemon]

CooLDoG flip flopped on and off of Norman.

Going forward norman will become a really easy lynch for both scum teams to push. Right now I see norman as one of the most pro-active players in the game who is trying to scum hunt. I might be a little biased towards favoring the VI because I was treated like that before (and to a certain extend still to this day), but norman does not have the characteristics of being scum. And nobody as brought a good case against him. Lemon seems to be the main pusher of this policy lynch happy mob.

ITT Norman is going to soft-claim and backtrack on every possible role in the hopes of outing Town Powerroles!!!

Good Times!

Can we have lynch time now please?

yes.
Norman, I'm going to vote you because it is day 1.

vote:norman

and because I want to.
@green, read better. Like seriously, make sure that what you are saying is true before you post it.
@lord mhork, read his sig please.

I've also had a gut feeling on him since the beginning. He seems to be repeating what has already been said, also.
MoS: He's done absolutely nothing of any help whatsoever. No matter how little time you have, you can at least get in one post with content in it today.
Shadoweh: Seems a little pushy on me still, but that's understandable, due to cognitive bias. Seems to be trying to scumhunt sincerely.
Tammy: Her scumhunting looks good.
VOTE: CooLDoG
Back to my first scum read I suppose.

[Seacore]

Vote Count 1.5

Norman (7) -

Pine, Empking, kondi2424, LynchMePls, brizingre1, CooLDoG, Jackal711

kondi2424 (1) -

Lord Mhork

AurorusVox (2) -

greenknight, Shadoweh

CooLDoG (5) -

Shadow1psc, Norman, trekker, PeregrineV, ManiacalLemon

Shadow1psc (1) -

Guy_Named_Riggs

Pine (2) -

Mastermind of Sin, Foxace36

MaguaofIllusion (1) -

Feysal

Tammy (1) -

Haze

Zdenek (1) -

Tammy

Shadoweh (2) -

MaguaofIllusion, Zdenek

Not Voting (3) - AurorusVox, Y u no scum, Skenvoy

VLA - Haze

(expired on 2012-04-02 00:00:00)
With 26 alive, 14 are needed to secure a lynch.

Seeking 2 replacements for Guy_Named_Riggs and Skenvoy.
Prodding AurorusVox

[LimMePls]

On a quick skim I don't like the CD wagon at all. I've been in many games with CD where I couldn't wait to rope him, this game he's actually made a decent amount of sense. Can't help but wonder if he's a convenient counterwagon to one of the scum bags we're running up.

More in depth post later/tomorrow.

[Norman]

On a quick skim I don't like the CD wagon at all. I've been in many games with CD where I couldn't wait to rope him, this game

he's actually made a decent amount of sense

Not really from what I'm hearing.

. Can't help but wonder if he's a convenient counterwagon to one of the

scum bags we're running up.

Idk about you LMP but I'm town.

More in depth post later/tomorrow.

Meh. Whatever, I still think Cooldog is scumbaggish. Idc what you have to say because pretty much basically everyone lynching me is insulting my way of playing the game.

[brizingre1]

Judging from LMPs last post, he's probably town.

As the norman lynch seems to be losing steam, and I like the CD wagon even less then I like the Pine one, I'm sorely tempted to vote Foxace or Lemon, will make a long awesome post detailing why tomorrow, and I need to do an ISO on Shadoweh. And I'm loving how Norman has acquired a small band of followers who will follow his every vote.

[Norman]

Judging from LMPs last post, he's probably town.

As the norman lynch seems to be losing steam, and I like the CD wagon even less then I like the Pine one, I'm sorely tempted to vote Foxace or Lemon, will make a long awesome post detailing why tomorrow, and I need to do an ISO on Shadoweh. And I'm loving how Norman has acquired a small band of followers who will follow his every vote.

They're not followers, they're standing for what they believe in. And if they want to go that way, so will I.

[Shadoweh]

Nope, 16 hours is NOTHING. Look up the page. The site you are playing on is Mafiascum.net. It's not EM, Smashboards or whatever other place you are from. Site norms here are what apply.
Your stance is scummy. Especially given you have played in games here on MS before.

And in those games the scum were the people posting as infrequently as possible and the town posted as often as possible when they were here, with the exception of people who were outright replaced. He's not getting lynched today from the looks of it so the argument is a moot point.

Also .. you didn't answer my Mina-Alt question.

Confirm or deny

!

I'm flattered you would mistake me for Mina, but Shadoweh is Shadoweh and no one else. ^_^/

honestly is it so hard to believe I'm not an alt apparently I'm Mist Beauty too

Documentation of the CoolDog wagon:

[ManiacalLemon]

Imo CD is mafia. Always has been. So I'm not really following anyone's vote. I just agree with this lynch. If it were Shadoweh, or Tammy, I wouldn't.

[CooLDoG]

Ok, at least I know people can read my posts now.

@CoolDog

: Bolded for emphasis, are you just flat out ignoring my posts?

I read your posts but I really don't have much to say about them because I have allready answered to the only argument that you have brought up against me. Also, you have only mentioned me in 3 of your 33 some odd posts. SO I don't understand what I'm supposed to answer to or why you are even asking this.

@lemons, I have contributed more meaningful anlisis and have posted more than you. Why am I on your scum list anyway... ohh I forgot you, norman, trekker, MoS, peregin, and a bunch of other fuckers who simply refuse to give any justification for thier reads and votes. This will not be a sustainable way to play in the later game when we are down a few town members. Scum will rape this town if the current state of things continues, that is my prediction.

@trekker, you have three options at the moment. 1, Make posts with more than five words. 2, replace out. 3, claim that you have a post restriction that forces you to post spam posts that do not contribute to the game. Pick one.

Can we just lynch Trekker then? Please? I can only stand so much stupidity before I go on a rampage the sight of which will scar most players for the rest of their days.

I am almost up to *here* with the stupid fucks in this game. That's coming from me, CooLDoG. At least I try... these guys aren't even trying.

everything cool dog says is irrelevant, because he's scum.

Why am I scum? I would be more than willing to accept your reasons if they were valid and

if you actually had any.

Can we just lynch Trekker then? Please? I can only stand so much stupidity before I go on a rampage the sight of which will scar most players for the rest of their days.

can you stop being an elitist prick? you're being a total dick and making this game unenjoyable because your head is too far up your ass. learn the basics of catching scum before you run your mouth and declare yourself above everyone else, or bybthe time the game is over you'll look like a moronic asshole.

So randomly voting for people without supplying any reasons, posting one word spam posts, and not actually trying to play the game is how you catch scum? Serious question by the way.

Okay, lemon is the first one to have valid reasons. Let me address why I have flipped my read on norman. At the start of the game I honestly thought he was simply a miss understood VI at the start of the game who we could glean some information from. However once his scum list started to grow and his votes turned to omgus only I have concluded that he will only be a hindrance to the town if he is town, or he could be scum just trying to fuck us up and play off of his meta. Hell, I have done that several times when I have played scum.

People I would support a lynch for (in no particular order):
Norman
trekker
lemons
-possibly, but I need to be persuaded-
pine

[brizingre1]

@lemon: but you said that Norman was 'obvious' when you voted him, what has changed since then?

[Zdenek]

LMP, players should not have to delay voting, so that their vote doesn't appear immediately following a vote count, to avoid being called scummy. You think Norman's scummy for getting on the next biggest wagon, okay, but the idea that it's worse because it came right after a vote count is one that I have a problem with.

But the point is that the timing of it was evidence that his vote was just to join the next biggest wagon. So the timing is relevant evidence to the exact point you admit is valid. So what's the problem?

I just find it bizarre that you would find his vote less scummy had it come 7 minutes earlier.

I don't play that way. I ask questions - again asking exactly wtf I want to know - and interact with people that way.

And I will continue to think that asking pointless question is scummy even if you flip town.

Oh and you didn't answer my question about greenknight because I never asked you in my barrage of useless scummy underhanded questions before. You responded to greenknight's surprise that you guys were on the same wagon, with Avox is scummier, but didn't say anything about your current thoughts on greenknight. But, nice try to say that you did.

Here is what you asked me:

I'm wondering why YOU aren't voting for Greenknight now since you were in the last thread. You responded to AV but didn't call him scummy in the original thread, so what changed to you thinking that AV was more deserving of a vote than Greenknight now?

Here is what I'd already said:

Green Knight, AVox is summier, the fact that you also think that he's scummy, shows to me that you were actually scum hunting, and plus this is a multiscum game, so it doesn't make any sense to not vote someone because one other person, who you have had doubts about, is voting him.

I totally think that this answers your question, so I don't know what your problem is.

For the record, I'm null on GK.

Right, zdenek gets some scum points for his stupid questioning of Tammy's questions. Asking questions is a fairly common and completely valid playstyle, and I don't like the way z was trying to read so much into them, and his argument looked a little like he was reaching. Also he goes in three hours from 'I like Shadoweh's points against Pine, to voting Shaodweh ( viewtopic.php?p=3926095#p3926095 and viewtopic.php?p=3926204#p3926204).

Asking pointless question is scummy fluff. Asking questions that look like they are getting people to do your dirty work for you are scummy.

Also, this is multiscum.

[Empking]

If this wasn't multi-scum we could could clear CD at this point. As it is his wagon is going to be silly useful once Norm flips scum.

[ManiacalLemon]

He still seems scummy. The possibility of a jester worries me, however.

[Norman]

If this wasn't multi-scum we could could clear CD at this point. As it is his wagon is going to be silly useful once Norm flips scum.

But you see, Empking, I'm town. And there's lots of reasons why I'm voting for Cooldog. One is his failure not to acknowledge my way of playing. 2ndly, he's calling us stupid for independent votes. And 3rdly, I don't like he's now calling me a hindrance to the town. I'm keeping my vote where it is until someone has good enough reason to coerce me.

[Tammy]

LMP, players should not have to delay voting, so that their vote doesn't appear immediately following a vote count, to avoid being called scummy. You think Norman's scummy for getting on the next biggest wagon, okay, but the idea that it's worse because it came right after a vote count is one that I have a problem with.

But the point is that the timing of it was evidence that his vote was just to join the next biggest wagon. So the timing is relevant evidence to the exact point you admit is valid. So what's the problem?

I just find it bizarre that you would find his vote less scummy had it come 7 minutes earlier.

I don't play that way. I ask questions - again asking exactly wtf I want to know - and interact with people that way.

And I will continue to think that asking pointless question is scummy even if you flip town.

Oh and you didn't answer my question about greenknight because I never asked you in my barrage of useless scummy underhanded questions before. You responded to greenknight's surprise that you guys were on the same wagon, with Avox is scummier, but didn't say anything about your current thoughts on greenknight. But, nice try to say that you did.

Here is what you asked me:

I'm wondering why YOU aren't voting for Greenknight now since you were in the last thread. You responded to AV but didn't call him scummy in the original thread, so what changed to you thinking that AV was more deserving of a vote than Greenknight now?

Here is what I'd already said:

Green Knight, AVox is summier, the fact that you also think that he's scummy, shows to me that you were actually scum hunting, and plus this is a multiscum game, so it doesn't make any sense to not vote someone because one other person, who you have had doubts about, is voting him.

I totally think that this answers your question, so I don't know what your problem is.

For the record, I'm null on GK.

Right, zdenek gets some scum points for his stupid questioning of Tammy's questions. Asking questions is a fairly common and completely valid playstyle, and I don't like the way z was trying to read so much into them, and his argument looked a little like he was reaching. Also he goes in three hours from 'I like Shadoweh's points against Pine, to voting Shaodweh ( viewtopic.php?p=3926095#p3926095 and viewtopic.php?p=3926204#p3926204).

Asking pointless question is scummy fluff. Asking questions that look like they are getting people to do your dirty work for you are scummy.

Also, this is multiscum.

Why haven't you been lynched yet?

Seriously? I think I gave you too much credit by thinking that you might actually understand that there are different play styles. Turns out you're not just scum, but you're also belligerently ignorant. Good for you.

I'm not responding to any more of this nonsense, because you've proved yourself as being unable to understand simple concepts. You can continue your silly attempts at making me look bad by saying my questions are pointless when they aren't. And you can read whatever crap you want to into my straightforward questions all you want.

You're scum. If by any chance you happen to be town, you're more dangerous to town than anyone else I've seen in this thread. I've seen your kind before, coming up and deliberately mischaracterizing what people are doing by calling perfectly valid questions and reads as pointless or fluff or scummy. You lurk in the shadows and attack from behind and hope no one will catch you. All it really points to is you being scum.

Oh and for the record, now you've answered my question by saying that you have a null read on greenknight.