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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:11 am

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No Hiplop, I have never played with or read his games(though I recognize the name)......curious how this is important. Not in a condescending way, I actually am curious.
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Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd
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Why does an odd post suddenly spark you for a vote? Especially when you said you cannot place it as town or scum driven.

I do agree with Mcqueen that this is an odd post/vote. You are basically putting a vote on someone for null reasons, is this a legitimate vote or a prod vote?
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:05 am

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the whole vig thing, kondi. No way would scumelmo go through that, and i dont think he'd miss a vig, either.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:15 am

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hoko and riggs are my two main scum reads, hoko for fairly obvious reasons and Riggs for his defence of hoko and his general scummy play: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3925669

mcqueens post was poor logic, but not really scummy, and I had a town read on him previously and I dont like the way kondi sprung onto his wagon.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:49 am

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brizingre1 wrote:
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Why is Pizza so far down?

We need to be looking for the mafia Role cop. He is the one I want to lynch today.

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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:14 am

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mcqueen wrote:
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mcqueen wrote:Just keep discussing, and eventually the mafia will kill them off, or we'll eventually lynch them off. Their loss, not ours.

Seriously read this and tell me how it is town driven.

I meant it in the view that they'll be out of the game, and won't have a chance to play it out, whereas we will, no matter our alignment. We get to have a full fun game, while they are dead somewhere else.

The problem is even as Kondi said is they won't everyone knows this or at least I thought it was common knowledge. Face it if you're scum do you want active people or people who have no idea whats going on in the game? Ill let you sit and answer that.

Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd
Vote:mcqueen

You have to see it as something though to put a vote down on it...You must think its anti-town at the very least.

FuDzn, Elmo Have you ever played with mcqueen before? or read one of his games? This is important

Elmo has a point, but Im going to get him to answer these question before pursuing

I have and I've replaced into a game here he was scum dead. Really was a lame duck so I didn't read much. And I have played a couple games with him and TBH I can't remember his alignments. :(




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Why is Pizza so far down?

We need to be looking for the mafia Role cop. He is the one I want to lynch today.


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I like and dislike this post. Why wouldn't any mafia suffice for the kill? Why do you have to be specific for it? Even if the Role Cop gets a result it just proves they know 1 role and if they die the next day its no different.

Brizy can I see your case on hoko? His last post has me leaning more nullish on him.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:15 pm

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Elmo TeH AzN wrote:The problem is even as Kondi said is they won't everyone knows this or at least I thought it was common knowledge. Face it if you're scum do you want active people or people who have no idea whats going on in the game? Ill let you sit and answer that.

People who have no idea what's going on. But my main point was that I wasn't making that statement in either alignment's shoes, rather in a regular, real life, person's shoes, so I don't want people to read me, based on that single post, but rather on my entire gameplay.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:11 pm

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Vote count 1.04


hokorippoi - 5 (brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn, hiplop)
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mcqueen - 3 (Kamikrazy, kondi2424, Guy_Named_Riggs) L-4
Kondi2424 - 2 (mcqueen, Pizzadudes7) L-5
hiplop - 1 (hokorippoi) L-6
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Antihero) L-6

Not Voting - 0



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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:45 pm

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alright; the thing is - Mcqueen is a lot different than most players. A lot of what he says gets interpreted as scummy, usually when hes town. Its the way he words things, and so you can bring up a ton of *valid* reasons with him easily. So you can also make fake cases on him super easily. I'm not sure what to think with elmo, now. He has quite a bit of history with mcqueen but didnt even budge with his play, it feels like the taking advantage i mentioned earlier.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:05 pm

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hiplop, for some reason, your avvie creeps me out.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:14 pm

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Problem is though he can become a liability later in the game though as well
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:21 pm

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That is seriously a terrible defense of Mcqueen, Hiplop. You are basically saying that no matter what he does, he is not scummy.

Does he act the same way when he is scum?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:27 pm

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Hiplop, you just became more awesome. L rocks.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:34 pm

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im not defending him, if it did look like that I apologize :oops:
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:41 pm

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No need to apologize, but I would like some examples of when he is scum. Does he act the same way?
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:48 pm

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@FuDuzn - No, I'm much worse.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:22 pm

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I dont care about the scum side. Its the act of taking advantage, that im worried about. Elmo seems to be doing just that.

I realize my wording isn't perfect, but bear with me here :)
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:35 pm

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hokorippoi wrote:
brizingre1 wrote:
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Why is Pizza so far down?

We need to be looking for the mafia Role cop. He is the one I want to lynch today.


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There wasn't much different between Pizzadudes and the next 4 up in the list, Pizzadudes has made very little impression on me atm.

And the bolded sentence seems slightly scummy, I'd be happy enough with lynching any type of mafia, telling the mafia role cop apart from vanilla mafia would be a virtually impossible feat.

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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:50 pm

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Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
mcqueen wrote:
Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
mcqueen wrote:Just keep discussing, and eventually the mafia will kill them off, or we'll eventually lynch them off. Their loss, not ours.

Seriously read this and tell me how it is town driven.

I meant it in the view that they'll be out of the game, and won't have a chance to play it out, whereas we will, no matter our alignment. We get to have a full fun game, while they are dead somewhere else.

The problem is even as Kondi said is they won't everyone knows this or at least I thought it was common knowledge. Face it if you're scum do you want active people or people who have no idea whats going on in the game? Ill let you sit and answer that.

Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd
Vote:mcqueen

You have to see it as something though to put a vote down on it...You must think its anti-town at the very least.

FuDzn, Elmo Have you ever played with mcqueen before? or read one of his games? This is important

Elmo has a point, but Im going to get him to answer these question before pursuing

I have and I've replaced into a game here he was scum dead. Really was a lame duck so I didn't read much. And I have played a couple games with him and TBH I can't remember his alignments. :(




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Why is Pizza so far down?

We need to be looking for the mafia Role cop. He is the one I want to lynch today.


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I like and dislike this post. Why wouldn't any mafia suffice for the kill? Why do you have to be specific for it? Even if the Role Cop gets a result it just proves they know 1 role and if they die the next day its no different.

Brizy can I see your case on hoko? His last post has me leaning more nullish on him.


First there was this post http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3917028 where he pointed out how close kondi was to a lynch but didn't unvote and there was something a little off about his post/s explaining why.

Then there was his dragging out of the 'Elmo is scum for trying to lynch the vig case'

Then he encouraged us to lynch all lurkers, which would have been a ridiculous policy at this stage in the game, especially when the mod can easily get replacements (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3924813)

And then there was his 'we need to lynch the mafia cop' on his last post, which seemed slightly scummy

Round up: hoko seems like scum looking for an easy mislynch on D1.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:35 am

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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:20 am

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brizingre1 wrote:
hokorippoi wrote:
brizingre1 wrote:
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Why is Pizza so far down?

We need to be looking for the mafia Role cop. He is the one I want to lynch today.


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There wasn't much different between Pizzadudes and the next 4 up in the list, Pizzadudes has made very little impression on me atm.

And the bolded sentence seems slightly scummy, I'd be happy enough with lynching any type of mafia, telling the mafia role cop apart from vanilla mafia would be a virtually impossible feat.

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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:06 am

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hiplop wrote:
GuyNamedRiggs feels INSTANTLY different to all his other games. I don't like it. Especially considering i['ve only played him as town.


That's not true
I was scum in New Age when I was a hydra. I was the one who was mainly running that hydra.

Also, my comment on my vote on mcqueen
I've played with mcqueen before and he's always hard to read. I didn't see his post as town, but not completly as scum, just something about it struck me as odd, so I voted him. I honestly don't know why I think it's bad, I just do.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:28 pm

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Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:Also, my comment on my vote on mcqueenI've played with mcqueen before and he's always hard to read. I didn't see his post as town, but not completly as scum, just something about it struck me as odd, so I voted him. I honestly don't know why I think it's bad, I just do.

Sadly I can agree with this. mcqueen is a person I have the hardest time reading overall. I can't tell what he is half the time. Its almost like Pizzadudes with me. But overall as it was pointed out hoko and saying we need to lynch the Role cop can be overeager town but I have a feeling that its not.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:34 pm

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Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:Also, my comment on my vote on mcqueenI've played with mcqueen before and he's always hard to read. I didn't see his post as town, but not completly as scum, just something about it struck me as odd, so I voted him. I honestly don't know why I think it's bad, I just do.

Sadly I can agree with this. mcqueen is a person I have the hardest time reading overall. I can't tell what he is half the time. Its almost like Pizzadudes with me. But overall as it was pointed out hoko and saying we need to lynch the Role cop can be overeager town but I have a feeling that its not.


If the relationship is the same way, that is gonna be a b****. Mcqueen was scum in the only game I played with him. I never liked him (no offense, your playstyle irks me as much as mine irks EVERYONE!!!)
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:42 pm

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Pizzadudes7 wrote:
Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:Also, my comment on my vote on mcqueenI've played with mcqueen before and he's always hard to read. I didn't see his post as town, but not completly as scum, just something about it struck me as odd, so I voted him. I honestly don't know why I think it's bad, I just do.

Sadly I can agree with this. mcqueen is a person I have the hardest time reading overall. I can't tell what he is half the time. Its almost like Pizzadudes with me. But overall as it was pointed out hoko and saying we need to lynch the Role cop can be overeager town but I have a feeling that its not.


If the relationship is the same way, that is gonna be a b****. Mcqueen was scum in the only game I played with him. I never liked him (no offense, your playstyle irks me as much as mine irks EVERYONE!!!)

You didn't like me because I was V/LA when Day 1 ended, and while Night 1 was in progress, so I did nothing in the means of helping my partner, and ended up getting lynched the next day.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:52 pm

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Also, I was cop with a guilty on you, but we'll leave that out.
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