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Vote count 2.1 REVISED Edition

Guy Named Riggs (4): Om of the Nom, Gila, Kondi, Guy Named Riggs. (LYNCH!!)
Kondi (1): Working Manju.

Not too long after the deaths of Staeg and theomoaner, you guys decided to move the the balcony for drinks, in hope of lowering the last scum's inhibitions and catching them out.

Throughout your whole conversation, Gila was pretty quiet. She'd gone to the toilet quite a few times too.

Suddenly, somebody suggested to Riggs: "Hey don't you think your lover looks like the other murderer?"
"N-no...no way!" Riggs was unconvinced.
"You sure man? She sure seems suspicious. She hasn't said anything, and she keeps leaving."
"Yeah I noticed that too, you reckon she's planning something behind our backs?"\
"That's enough guys, can you please stop spreading rumours about my lover behind

her

back?"

...

The bickering continued.

As you fed GNR more wine, he became more and more convinced.

"Shit. Shit I should have known. Holy cow...no...I don't wanna believe dis..."

He was in a crazed stupor.

And you convinced him to kill himself for the greater good.

GNR climbed over the railing of the balcony, and jumped headfirst.

On the way down, he got caught in one of the branches, flipping him into the horizontal.

It denied him the instant death he would have otherwise had.

He landed chestfirst into a steel garden fencing post, tearing part of his heart and puncturing his lung.

His death was a gurgling, weezing one.

***

Gila was sick since lunch. She felt like crap. Must have been the bloody stake from Staeg. When She finally got whatever Salmonella out of her system it was late afternoon, and whatever happened was just a brush of confusion.

The sight of Rigg's blood soaked body...

Her lover. One and only.

She jumped, in a hurry to join GNR at the pearly gates.

At least God was merciful. She crushed her cranium and snapped her spine.

Death was instant, at the very least.

CRUNCH.

Guy_Named_Riggs,

Town Lover

has been lynched. Or persuaded to jump off a cliff. Same thing.
Gila,

Town Lover

(!!!) has comitted suicide. Funny how it's also jumped off a cliff.

Nice try, but no dice. The game continues with 4 players.

Stunned by the flips the lovers had done...all of you were convinced that the fact Gila was absent was purely circumstancial. Nobody was convinced that the scum was gone.

Desparate for revenge, you continue to seek out the last murderer out of the four of you.

It's lynch or lose.

Day 3 START!

With 4 Alive, it takes 3 to Lynch. Deadline is 1 week, Monday 2nd of April 8:52 AEST. Careful of Daylight saving, it's ending this sunday I think.

Oh and sorry for the mistakes. I'm hammered after camp. Had an exam this morning 9 am too. So messed up. Sorry guys. V_V;;
And yeah try to keep the votes in the centre of the page, cause I'm not reading this at all, haha.
Much appreciated if you guys would put up with me for a little longer.

Good luck!

[Om of the Nom]

kondi is still probscum.

Also

@mod: The second of March has already passed :V

Once again, I have no idea what you are on about. =P

[Om of the Nom]

Bump-a-dump-a-diddily-ump~

What happened to the activity guys?

[Working Manju]

Haven't had time. Will post after school.

[popsofctown]

My computer is still in disrepair.

Limited access.

Will catch up soon

[popsofctown]

I've read my QT and the thread.

I don't have a strong gut read on Manju. I do have dead townies saying that Manju is town though. And I have Om saying Manju is town, so since he's not a partner that's autovalid.

On a pure voting record basis, kondi/om is doing much more poorly, Manju and I did not kill Gila and GNR. Looking back on the day GNR was coming out super town, and the lynch was definitely due some consideration.

As a final point, from my PoV, the base probability of the om-kondi lynch being successful is double the probability that lynching Manju is a successful strategy. To om and kondi those odds are reversed, but om seems to have a strong scumread on kondi and I don't have a strong read on anything. So that's how you make a compromise.

[popsofctown]

Looking back on previous days, Om and kondi both expressed a desire to lynch their counterparts. Due to the nuance of the setup, it is by its nature scummy to back out of lynching your partner. Because if it is a townie saying "I will lynch my partner tomorrow", the probability they do so is high, if it is scum saying that, the probability is 0.

Me and my probabilities.

The floor is still open for discussion but I don't see myself voting Manju today.

[kondi2424]

Hey pops VOTE: OmNom

[popsofctown]

Vote: OmNom

Unvote

[Working Manju]

I'm here.

pops - What have your thought processes been regarding me all game? I was initially reading your set-up spec in the quicktopic as townie but I've since realized that it could provide a very convenient out for scum to convince their lover to look elsewhere all game while justifying the scum not self-voting.

Om - Why the fuck did you think GNR self-hammering before pops could post was a good idea? Also, if kondi is probscum but you're not going to vote him, then what do you think about the other options? I don't see LYLO effort even though you're not voting like I said.

kondi - Please post more thoughts when possible.

[Working Manju]

"regarding me" meaning "regarding my alignment".

[popsofctown]

Setup speculation is only possible in closed games.

Setup CALCULATION is what was in the QT. I probably would have posted the same thing as scum. I don't expect you to get a read off my choice to present it, there's only the manner in which it is presented.

[Working Manju]

Shrug. It's obvious what I meant.

What have your thought processes about my alignment been all game, though? Did you really not bother trying to read me beyond what other people had said, even with your beliefs about the set-up? If not, how did the read fluctuate?

[popsofctown]

My thoughts regarding you have been a soft townread all game.

I'm a pessimist/realist regarding a townie's ability to guess the alignment of another player. Townies aren't very good at guessing. The D1 flip is a good demonstration of that. You talk and you prod and you poke and in a closed setup you get one guy that seems 130% times as scummy as the other players so you lynch him. You might have a townread that is two thirds as likely to be scum as everyone else. But overall townies are inaccurate.

From my PoV Manju would have to be scummier than Om and kondi by a giant load the likes of which I haven't seen in 8 games. That just isn't the case, he's the third scummiest player in the room. So, no, I don't feel the need to get off my butt and iso him and pretend to be worried. The other lovership is free to look for something earthshattering about Manju to present today, but unless they do I seriously do not care.

FWIW, I am pretty pro at QTs. I got neighborized in Cyclic Mafia and identified a scum in the neighborhood correctly, was a neighbor-vigilante in Square Enix Mafia some# and correctly read both my neighbors as town, and that one time I got scum Masons I won(lol). I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[popsofctown]

you ninjaed me, I was going to double post.

[popsofctown]

Also, I'm pretty sure at some point in the QT you said a thought that really syncced up with mine. That's about when I totally wrote you off.

[popsofctown]

The stuff about theomoaner appeasing. It was wrong, but it was townie shaped.

[Working Manju]

Fair enough.

Gonna wait on Om and kondi before I make anything resembling a verdict.

[kondi2424]

I wanna say that pops is the pinnacle of towniness, and that this is a vote between OmNom and Manju for me.

But it's OmNom, so

[popsofctown]

I lolled

[kondi2424]

[Om of the Nom]

I'm town.
Manju is prob-town.
kondi is town.
pops is my real choice for scum.

VOTE: popsofctown

@Manju: I honestly do not know. It was probably me doing something without thinking first.

[Working Manju]

Why is pops scum and why should I kill myself?

[Om of the Nom]

pops is scum because to me it felt like he was trying to get us to vote each other. Even if he just labeled it as a "compromise lynch". Basically, he's trying to lynch us as fast as possible so that he will stay out of suspicion for as long as possible.

You should kill yourself because you are town, and resistance to do so will not put you in the best light for me (though it won't be insta-scum).

[popsofctown]

I'm not even voting you. Hardly a quicklynch.

Om, you backed yourself into a corner. You've called me town way too many times this game for you to flip around on such weak basis.

I dunno how kondi read Om sooner than I did, I still wasn't sure whether Om or kondi was scum. Props kondi.

I'll hold my vote, I'm sure Manju will want to chat more.