Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

[inte]

It honestly looks like grey is trying to derail the wagon.

Does that mean you think PV is town? (at greyice)

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(4) PeregrineV - Tierce, Glork, Ghostlin, Slandaar
(2) Slandaar – PeregrineV, pizzadudes7
(2) Glork – inte, GreyICE

Not voting

: Dazzy, BBmolla,

Deadline

: Saturday 31 March 20:00 CET

[Tierce]

I dont like 366

Reads like scum coaching to me and definitely doesnt read as if you are town talking to a scumsuspect...

It really doesnt sit right at all.

He's a scumspect, yes, but I'm not putting aside the possibility he is town, and in my experience he flips his shit all too easily regardless of alignment. See above: I'm conflicted, and I've explained why.

I don't like the confrontational level the game is reaching, so I'm trying to tone things down and be rational. GreyICE tunnels like crazy, and he is pushing a wagon with no traction for today.

If

he is town, I want him to realize this. Besides, I wanted to know his reasons for voting Glork, because he hadn't expressed them yet. IMO, 'opportunism' is relative; Glork is not going for easy wagons.

[Glork]

So Grey, who exactly do you think are my scumbuddies?

Also, the mistake in calling you town when you replaced in is nothing more than

the exact same mistake I made when CES replaced into MLP mafia

, which, if you're not completely moronic, should pretty much automatically tell you that I'm protown. Unfortunately for YOU, I'm not retarded, and I've LEARNED from my mistake. Also, your behavior has made it remarkably clear that you're not townGrey.

In what game did you buddy me as scum and "it worked"? Becuase I honestly cannot for the life of me remember when that happened.

[Glork]

And inte, is it safe to assume that you're still voting for me because you think I'm scum?

If so, what are your reasons?

[Glork]

Grey, the only instance I can see where you were scum and I was town was Square Enix Mafia Gaiden, and ISOing myself, once you replaced in, all I did was call you retarded and express a desire to lynch you. The closest I got to calling you protown was "I'm unwilling to push him to claim right now," and that was NOT after any sort of buddying. It was actually after you tried to break up the Glork-PranaDevil superprotownduo. Which, oddly enough, you seem to be trying to do here as well.


This really ain't lookin' good for you, kid. You're actually FURTHER convincing me that you're scum by making me go back and meta you.

[GreyICE]

So Grey, who exactly do you think are my scumbuddies?

Also, the mistake in calling you town when you replaced in is nothing more than

the exact same mistake I made when CES replaced into MLP mafia

, which, if you're not completely moronic, should pretty much automatically tell you that I'm protown. Unfortunately for YOU, I'm not retarded, and I've LEARNED from my mistake. Also, your behavior has made it remarkably clear that you're not townGrey.

In what game did you buddy me as scum and "it worked"? Becuase I honestly cannot for the life of me remember when that happened.

Square Enix. Would have won too if damn other scum didn't keep shooting me.

Anyway, you can read me better than this. I am 100% Town. You are not, because you think you can push this shit on me and it will fly.

[Glork]

Grey, the only instance I can see where you were scum and I was town was Square Enix Mafia Gaiden, and ISOing myself, once you replaced in, all I did was call you retarded and express a desire to lynch you. The closest I got to calling you protown was "I'm unwilling to push him to claim right now," and that was NOT after any sort of buddying. It was actually after you tried to break up the Glork-PranaDevil superprotownduo. Which, oddly enough, you seem to be trying to do here as well.


This really ain't lookin' good for you, kid. You're actually FURTHER convincing me that you're scum by making me go back and meta you.

[GreyICE]

Yeah, I pushed Prana because he's an overdramatic drama queen who flies into a tizzy when he's pushed. I needed easy lynches.

Are you trying to sell this town on the idea that I think you're an easy lynch?

[Glork]

I am not suggesting that I'm an easy lynch. Like Pizza, I am literally an impossible lynch in this game.

What I am suggesting is that you have a vested interest in breaking up the superprotownvotingbloc.

I think you probably wound up picking me because I already had a vote on me, and the pushes against other people-with-votes-already-on-them have all been exhausted.

[GreyICE]

What? Like Slaandar? Lemme put it this way, most of this town is happy with a Slaandar lynch.

If you're saying what I think you are that does make sense of a few things.

Vote: StephanB

You like PV. I don't see why. StephanB needs to die.

[Slandaar]

That does actually make sense trying to tone things down is something I hadnt considered probably because its something that doesnt bother me...

[PeregrineV]

OK, I have paid work to do right now, but will have time this afternoon to catchup and address Glork and anyone else.

[GreyICE]

OK, I have paid work to do right now, but will have time this afternoon to catchup and address Glork and anyone else.

Soooo... you're posting to tell us you're not posting.

Yay.

[Glork]

OK, I have paid work to do right now, but will have time this afternoon to catchup and address Glork and anyone else.

Soooo... you're posting to tell us you're not posting.

Yay.

Mmmmmmaybe we should just lynch PVscum and be done with this charade.

[GreyICE]

OK, I have paid work to do right now, but will have time this afternoon to catchup and address Glork and anyone else.

Soooo... you're posting to tell us you're not posting.

Yay.

Mmmmmmaybe we should just lynch PVscum and be done with this charade.

Yeah, except I'm pretty sure of StephanB scum and I'm not at all convinced by PeregrineV scum.

So you can suck eggs.

I promise you if he claims some shitty unprovable power role 1 day from deadline I will power hammer his ass.

Also meta sucks~

[PeregrineV]

On my first point, you literally said "I assume I had a reason but OK." You didn't bother going back to try to read and remember/understand why you put the vote down.
You just accepted that: "PeregrineV put down a vote on Kondi in the same post where he attacked pappums for making a bad vote on kondi."

This. Is. Typical. Scum. Behavior.

You have to explain it somehow. Can't just say "I'm sure I had a reason."

So, it appears you misread my post, or you are misrepresenting my post.

Vote count:

Vote count (13 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)
(3) pappums rat - kondi2424, Glork, Tierce
(2) Ghostlin - pappums rat, inte
(2) kondi2424 – Slandaar, Ghostlin
(1) PeregrineV – Dazzy
(1) Tebow – PeregrineV
(1) inte – Majiffy
(1) Slandaar - Pizzadudes7
(1) Tierce – Tebow

Not voting: Malcolm,

My post:

Pappums has 3 posts and 3 votes. Worst vote was Kondi

Vote: Kondi2424

@Mod- No posts yet by Malcolm. Is he still in the game?

@Pizza- Confused? Sounds like an excuse to not post. Which part confuses you?

Papum's Rat has 3 posts, yet has 3 votes on him. The worst vote being placed on Papums Rat was by Kondi. This was because Kondi gave no reason, nor did he mention Papums Rat in the post at all except to vote him.

On my second point, you said "I'm past Day1." What does that mean? It doesn't change the fact that

you pushed for a vig on the protown player and acted as if you KNEW that pappums was going to be killed N1.

You posted from a mindset that ONLY scum could have. But instead of responding to that point, you said you're "past D1, but OK."

So here you're speculating (or more misrepping), since I didn't push for a "vig on a protown player" and how the hell did I "act as if I KNEW" that Papums would be killed?

As far as not responding goes... Slandaar made a point about you in this post. You NEVER responded to him.

I'm guessing you mean this question/statement:

PV WHO DID I THINK WAS SCUM I FORGETS? oh I cant be bothered to check im just gonna unvote and then vote ghostlin...

If you want to tell me what the question is, I 'll answer it. Otherwise, it sounds more rhetorical, or if he forget his own reads I'm sure you'll be all over his shit for it.

You also never responded to the Burden of Proof argument I made. When have you been protown before and made people "prove" that they are protown? How does one "prove" they are protown anyway?

They "prove" it by lessening the suspicion I have against them. So, it's not really proof, and that's ok since I'm not the one that said "Prove you are town", you did.
I told Ghostlin he needed to do more to convince me.

After you jumped onto the Slandaar-wagon, again with NO REASONING WHATSOEVER, he stated that you were there to "get rid of" him because he suspected you. You NEVER responded to that one either.

My bad. "No, I'm not."

All of this makes Post 286 both hypocritical and rather hilarious.

I won't quote the definiton of hypocritical, but you think our questions are the same? Or are you trying to imply I need to respond to every "you scum" post? That ain't going to happen unless it advances discussion, because I always get read as scum.

And yeah, when I started going after you, your response was "I'm not going to reread and respond to you" -->>> lazyscum response.

So now that I've responded to every irrelevant sentence, let's see if you stay tunnelscum on me.

Then you asked me to ask Slaandar (who I already said I didn't want to lynch) to respond to YOUR false dilemma to him about inte (who I already said I didn't want to lynch) and Ghostlin (who I already said I didn't want to lynch).

Slandaar even CALLED YOU OUT ON IGNORING HIS QUESTIONS in Post 289, and you FINALLY responded to him. But still failed to respond to EVERYTHING else posted against you up to that point.

Your Post 318 response to Slandaar is also typical LazyScum.

What KIND of information did you get?

How have your questions and Slandaar's answers SPECIFICALLY helped you determne who is scum? What do you plan on doing with this information?

Keeping up the offensive is great, but
WHY don't you want to lynch Slandaar?
WHY don't you want to lynch inte?
WHY don't you want to lynch Ghostlin?

I say I think they are scum, and you don't want to lynch them, and that makes me scum?

No.

Guys, PV is textbook scum. Everything he does positively

reeks

of scum motivation. His suspicions are convenient and solidly rooted. He has been INCREDIBLY lazy, and is playing a VERY typical "semi-lurk your way through the game and ignore the little bit of pressure you've gotten." Well now he can't ignore the pressure. Because I'm

GOING

to get him scumlynched today. Done deal, Glorkdar guarantee. This shit is ON.

Unvote.
Vote: Glork

Bring it.

[PeregrineV]

@Glork- It seems the more I talk the scummier I am...lol

Oh well. I'll go back and look at why I did whatever I did day1.

No, the problem is that you're NOT posting enough actual content. The only post I feel good about is 158, but even that's just a bunch of questions, and not nearly enough analysis. Basically everything else you've posted today has been a half-assed response to someone, or an attempt to discredit/focus-shift to your claimed suspects.

You've stated that you think Ghostlin, Slandaar, and inte are scum

together

, but I have yet to see any fleshed out reasons for anyone not-named-Slandaar, and certainly not enough to link them to each other.

You could have said that. But you didn't. Instead, you give a laundry list of why I'm scum, half of which is "player X said so, and you didn't say no."

Also, I had 3ish (now two) town reads, so I'm ok with having 3 scum reads.

And how the hell can I link them together when we don't have a flip? That's a waste of time that Mastin can do but I need actual data before I can do that.

[PeregrineV]

@Glork- It seems the more I talk the scummier I am...lol

Oh well. I'll go back and look at why I did whatever I did day1.

No, the problem is that you're NOT posting enough actual content. The only post I feel good about is 158, but even that's just a bunch of questions, and not nearly enough analysis. Basically everything else you've posted today has been a half-assed response to someone, or an attempt to discredit/focus-shift to your claimed suspects.

You've stated that you think Ghostlin, Slandaar, and inte are scum

together

, but I have yet to see any fleshed out reasons for anyone not-named-Slandaar, and certainly not enough to link them to each other.

right now i feel like i have two possible scum partners, but i need someone lynched and/or more information before i can really say for sure
still on page 8 of re-read

Quoted for an example of what you are accusing me of in 330, but not inte at all.

[PeregrineV]

And we got three days, so I'd like to hear a complete post (much like the one detailing my scumminess) that explains why Glork's town reads are town.

It shouldn't be hard.....

[BBmolla]

GOD DAMNIT FUCKING FUCK

I HAD MY NOTES UP TO PAGE FIVE WRITTEN OUT AND CLICKED THE TAB BUT ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED THE GOD DAMNED EX

FGSFDS

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sadibjerbiidv

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[BBmolla]

Fuck it, whatever, finishing the rest, give me a bit. I don't understand why Ghostlin isn't lynched, and Tierce and Glork are both pretty obv town.

[BBmolla]

Okay. I've barely read four pages of D1, and I'm comfortable putting Slandaar into the "I don't want to lynch him today" category.

Wtf why

Slandaar isn't playing to his town meta AT ALL. His first post was one of the scummiest things I've seen in this game.

[Glork]

Ghostlin has shown an uncanny level of transparency that makes it pretty apparent that he's either Vanilla Townie, or *possibly* an SK.
inte's readthrough shows a remarkable degree of insight compared to several other questionables (PV, Dazzy, StefanB), and his interactions with Tierce/Slandaar don't appear to come from scum.
Slandaar is more gut-based than anything else, but I believe that there are at least two better lynches for today.



However, I completely misunderstood the "3 posts and 3 votes" thing. I thought you meant he had voted for 3 people in his 3 posts, and that his worst vote was on Kondi.

This kind of throws a monkey wrench into.... well, everything.

Unvote

.

[BBmolla]

Vote: Glork

You're better than this.

FFS STOP

[Glork]

So here you're speculating (or more misrepping), since I didn't push for a "vig on a protown player" and how the hell did I "act as if I KNEW" that Papums would be killed?

Think we should make PapRat vig first so we get to use it.

This quote reads: "Pappums is going to die tonight without using his vig if we don't use it now."