Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

[Tierce]

@ Mod: Would I be right in thinking scum are members of teams other than the Gangstas?

This is a towntell, because it shows the player has a town PM. He was replaced by StefanB, who was replaced by BBmolla.

BBmolla is town.

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(3) Slandaar –pizzadudes7, Glork, GreyICE
(2) GreyICE – Slandaar, inte
(1) PeregrineV – Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV
(1) BBmolla – Tierce

Not voting

: BBmolla,Dazzy

Deadline

: Saturday 7 April 20:00 CET

[Tierce]

Slandaar, Dazzy, inte, PeregrineV (unlikely), Ghostlin (not mafia).

The mafia is almost for sure in the first three.

Grey, was that a consent to move vote? >.> I need clarifications on these things.

[GreyICE]

Sure, although I want to hear from this theoretical replacement and get the town signing off on the MVP votes. This shit is pointless if town derps.

[Tierce]

UNVOTE: BBmolla
VOTE: Slandaar

Unofficial vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(4) Slandaar – Pizzadudes7, Glork, GreyICE, Tierce
(2) GreyICE – Slandaar, inte
(1) PeregrineV – Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV

Not voting:

BBmolla, Dazzy


My goodness, this wagon is sexy.

PeregrineV, stop voting Glork.
BB, vote Slandaar. And no, this is not a "why are you sheeping me" trap, I don't need that--you're town.

Town:

Your MVP votes are to be on GreyICE tonight.

This isn't really up for discussion, since there's a town bloc in favor of this. Please, please don't be contrary and vote someone else 'because'.

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(4) Slandaar –pizzadudes7, Glork, GreyICE, Tierce
(2) GreyICE – Slandaar, inte
(1) PeregrineV – Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV

Not voting

: BBmolla,Dazzy

Deadline

: Saturday 7 April 20:00 CET

[Johoohno]

@mod: Do we get the points before dawn and can use them that night?

Mod note:

The point for correct vote is given immediately, since it is obvious you got the point. The points for being the most nominated is given at the end of the night (when everybody has had their chance to send in their nomination) and can't be used that night. As stated in the rules, I'll inform a player once he/she reaches six points and when those can be used.

[Slandaar]

Well im town

This grey stuff in a 'town block' lol

What

It makes no sense

Grey is scum.

[Tierce]

Grey made a post saying Malee nominated Glork 6 minutes after Johoohno's last activity on the site.

He had said he had PM'd the mod before (for this info).

Only town get MVP votes.

I don't think Greyscum would count on anyone clearing him with this kind of time correlation; it would be a very weird coincidence to get that post so close to Johoohno's profile timestamp. GreyICE is definitely protown.

It's not even that.

GreyICE-scum would have to be some kind of idiot savant to say "Glork," and MaleeScum has literally zero reason on earth to nominate Glork.

[Slandaar]

wait scum can nominate?

seems kind of broken...

they just pile votes on one of them

[Tierce]

No, they can't, that's the whole point of why I think Grey is town, he seems to have actually received a PM that tells him who Malee nominated.

This is slightly game-breaking, but since it wasn't anything deliberate on his end and the timestamps I got (his post, Johoohno's activity) are public knowledge...

[Slandaar]

Hes experienced enough to pm the mod so that he says he got a pm only after mods been on. I know I would in said situation.

494 makes no sense at all.

[inte]

Dunno he could just as easily be lying about who he nominated

I don't trust this town bloc shit either
That being said I didn't nominate anyone because Of the crash. I wasn't sure if the game would continue.

[Tierce]

Hes experienced enough to pm the mod so that he says he got a pm only after mods been on. I know I would in said situation.

494 makes no sense at all.

No offense to him, but I don't think Grey is as cunning as that, as I said above.

[Glork]

Dunno he could just as easily be lying about who he nominated

I don't trust this town bloc shit either
That being said I didn't nominate anyone because Of the crash. I wasn't sure if the game would continue.

But inte, the fact that

I got the 5 SPP

says that I got the MOST votes. The odds of Malee lying are pretty dang small.

Sure, if it came down to, say, a Glork/Tierce/GreyICE endgame, I'd have to seriously reconsider some shit, but GreyICE is way, way, way, WAY down on the list of suspects.

[Glork]

Slandaar, can you go ahead and save us some time and fullclaim (incluidng nomination target last night)?

[Glork]

Also, herp derp, only townspeople can nominate:

All players

belonging to the team Grutto’s Gangstas

may nominate a player for MVP.

So yeah. No plus or minus points to BBMolla or inte.

[Slandaar]

This doesnt make sense

Glork who do you think greyscum would say he nominated exactly? why is fakenominating you so ridiculously unbelievable?

[Glork]

Tierce was the obvious fakenomchoice coming out of D1.

[Glork]

Also, Grey had no way of knowing that I had the most noms.

[Slandaar]

Even if he said he nommed tierce

it means nothing...

You have no point without a full list of who nominated who.

[Glork]

If he says he nommed Tierce, I almsot certainly know he's lying.

Because there would be no way I got 4 noms last night and Tierce 3. That's virtually impossible on sheer numbers.

[Slandaar]

Where did you get those numbers from?

why couldnt it be 6-1 although its more likely 8-9 voters.

[Glork]

Not following you.

Let's take a look at the playerlist:
Glork
Pizza
Tierce
GreyICE (claimed Glork)
inte (claimed no vote)
BBMolla (claimed no vote)
Ghostlin (claimed Tierce)
Slandaar
PeregrineV
Dazzy
Majiffy (unknown - dead)
pappumsrat (unknown - dead)

It is almost certain that there are four scums, given the multiple kills and dead One-Shot Vig.

Yes, it's POSSIBLE that Ghostlin was lying about voting Tierce and told us with no pressure whatsoever in a situation where GhostlinScum gains zero benefit from it.
Yes, it's POSSIBLE that somehow GreyICE knew I was looking for a specific answer (Tierce) and fakeclaimed a different name six minutes after the moderator logged on.

But to be quite frank, a big part of Mafia is hedging one's bets, because there are no certainties. We know for a fact that scums cannot nom. We know for a fact that I got the most noms last night.

Slandaar, if you really want to help sort out this MVP vote thing, go ahead and claim your nomination from last night. Enough stalling. You've got the entire protown voting bloc sitting solidly on you, planning on lynching you. As of right now, you WILL be the lynch for the day.
Claim your nomination. Claim the rest of your role, including: NAME, ABILITIES, RACE, POSITION.

Every post you make that isn't a claim only solidifies my desire to see you lynched today.

[Glork]

Okay, I should probably finish fleshing out my thoughts.


Without naming names, I'm guessing that Tierce had two nominations last night. If Grey had said "Malee nominated Tierce," then we would have to have:
3 voting Tierce
4 not voting
4 voting Glork (one of which cannot be Glork)
...that's

extremely

unlikely. Like, we're talking "all the stars would have to have aligned for this to happen" unlikely.

And, after the fake vengekill, Tierce was

absolutely

the right fakeclaimchoice to make. (The second one would have been pappums, but Malee had expressed suspicion of pappums, so I wouldn't expect GreyICE to fakeclaim that one.) It's very, very safe.

Glork is a *much* more dangerous fakeclaim. Malee hadn't said a word about me all game, and aside from Tierce calling me town after the fake vengekill, there really wasn't any reason to put the nom on me. Add in the fact that Grey had no idea I got the nomination, AND the mod/Greypost timestamp thing, and it makes his "Malee nommed Glork" claim that much more likely to be true.

[BBmolla]

Glork I'm doing rereads, I have PeregrineV on my list as well as Dazzy, is there anyone in particular you want to hear more from me about?