D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[Foxace36]

@Nero

Did you not just read my posts? I cleary revoked that stance and admitted that my reads were probably wrong and I gave reasons as to why.

[Kdub]

Magna:
So when I suspect WC but don't make him my top suspect, it's "distancing", yet when WC calls me town, it's further evidence that we are partners. If WC had called me scum instead, would you have reached the opposite conclusion? My bet is that you would have called that "distancing" as well.

@Kdub"For people who jumped off the Fennin wagon, why did you change your vote and do you still suspect him?"
Still suspicious and it was a wasted vote since he wasn't here. Plus the fact that WC scumminess has increased in this thread.

It's not a wasted vote, it's not like we're near the deadline or need to compromise yet.

Nero:
You are voting Iecerint, yet he does not appear on your scumlist. Why? I also don't understand your sudden suspicion of ooba. The post of his you quoted doesn't imply anything to me.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Magna:So when I suspect WC but don't make him my top suspect, it's "distancing", yet when WC calls me town, it's further evidence that we are partners. If WC had called me scum instead, would you have reached the opposite conclusion? My bet is that you would have called that "distancing" as well.

I had you down as possible partners pre-clash based on your interactions. Nothing in this thread has so far changed that.

Case in point - since the game started you have flirted with Wrath as a possible scum-suspect but never approached questioning him in any significant fashion or actually voting for him. Just some mild "I think Wrath might be scum".

Wrath began the early game in the Archive with some suspicions about you and Nero as partners that melted away over time. Suddenly, upon his finally posting some content, you are obv-Town. I absolutely need to go back and pull quotes.

But let's continue - I see you have zero focus on Wrath. What do you think of his catch-up post and subsequent reaction? Do you still think he is scum?

[DeathNote]

An issue has arisen.

Foxace36 and idanyboy have been removed from the game. I will continue my replacement search but for now, I am leaving this thread locked till I narrow the list by a few people. I dont like running a half full game.

[DeathNote]

Good News!!! We are down to only 2 replacements left! Since it wont be long before those two get replaced, I am going to reopen this thread to let the game continue. Please observe the OP to see who is still in this game and who is not.

The Vote Count has been reset and the deadline is set for two weeks from today. I am sorry that this is probably the longest day 1 in the history of Mafia Scum... but hopefully things will run smoothly from now on. Thank you everyone for your patience!!!!!

[MagnaofIllusion]

Huzzah!

At this stage I think my thoughts are pretty well established and I want to hear reads and thoughts from all our helpful replacements!

Thanks to all of you no matter what your alignment turns out to be! You can't play Mafia without players!

[Slandaar]

VOTE: SD

Magna explain SDtown to me

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: SD

Magna explain SDtown to me

Nope.jpg. I don't justify my Town reads to scum.

[Slandaar]

Well im town

So get to explaining

[ooba]

Reformatting WC's post into scum\town reads

Scummy: Kurtis, Nexus, ooba ('Bad Feeling'), Midnight
Scummy\Meh: Per (fluff)
Doesn't really take a stance: CDB, Elmo, Andy
Town: Malee, Kdub, MoI, Iece (for posting restriction)

Fenin (scum) -> Malee, Kdub, Slan town
Midnight (scum) -> Per town

Addn: Read MoI's 206
- I wouldn't call it 'Fence sitting'\'Non committal garbage' since there are some reads there
- But agree with the 'Not voting' anybody yet part. WC seems to have a pretty good grip on the game. Disturbing, the lack of a vote is.
- MoI's analysis points out something I noticed. Why talk about Kurtis in point 1, Nexus in point 4, Midnight in point 9 but refer to all of them again in point 11?

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@WC:

So you're not the only one calling #75 scummy, however I fail to see what was scummy about it. Please expand.

I call it the 'snipe'. Just popping out to say something bad about another player - not a strong attack. (Like this)
- I see your points about me. I'll go through the zip and respond to 'em tomorrow.

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@Nero:

"this is not what was said."

But it is the standard definition of 'chainsawing'. Your usage of it was contradictory. I shifted it to a neutral tell once it was obvious that's not what you meant anyway.
Surprised at your sudden jump at me though.

I'd support any of the following lynches.

ooba
fox
WC
SK
Elmo
SD
Slandaar

Prefered order of those lynches?

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@Kdub:

It's not a wasted vote, it's not like we're near the deadline or need to compromise yet.

Well, wasted in this sense meaning 'it won't bring out any reactions since the player wasn't present'. I prefer using the votes to put pressure on my scum reads.

Post 227 is good.

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@Slan
For what it's worth, I've played with SD in 5 games. He was town in all of them. I do not see a major deviation in his posting here apart from his energy levels are low in this new thread i.e usually posts a lot more.

[SleepyKrew]

Dammit. Y U NO WAIT 2 DAYZ

[Kdub]

But let's continue - I see you have zero focus on Wrath. What do you think of his catch-up post and subsequent reaction? Do you still think he is scum?

Yes, I still have a scum read on him. I found him suspicious pre-crash, and his posts today have been mostly empty filler that does not give me any reason to change my opinion. I simply found Fennin to be more suspicious, which is why I have focused on him more than WC. I still think you are looking to interpret any action I take in a way that fits your pre-conceived idea that WC and I are partners though. For example, if I were to
UNVOTE:
VOTE: WrathChild
...I bet you go back to calling it "distancing" between us.

And yes, that is a serious vote, not just to make a point. It appears from the first post that Fennin has been replaced, which is unfortunate. As I said earlier, that slot (BBmolla now) is still on my suspect list for future days, but I realize now we're not going to get any good explanation for Fennin's earlier play to get a wagon going on him today.

Well, wasted in this sense meaning 'it won't bring out any reactions since the player wasn't present'. I prefer using the votes to put pressure on my scum reads.

Well he was still in the game at that point and it wasn't clear that he was going to be replaced, so there was still a chance to pressure him and get answers, but since he's been replaced now, you are correct.

Mod: can we get a vote count?

[4nxi3ty]

hi, replacing cdb, anything important in the archive I should keep in mind?

[DeathNote]

Vote Count

WrathChild

- Kdub (L-10)

ShadowDancer

- Slandaar (L-10)

With 20 alive, its 11 to lynch.

~I will be V/LA this weekend. I will check in as much as I can but for the most part, I will have issues posting vote counts. I will inform Klazam to cover for me as best he can. Thanks for understanding!~

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: WrathChild

[WrathChild]

But let's continue - I see you have zero focus on Wrath. What do you think of his catch-up post and subsequent reaction? Do you still think he is scum?

Yes, I still have a scum read on him. I found him suspicious pre-crash, and his posts today have been mostly empty filler that does not give me any reason to change my opinion. I simply found Fennin to be more suspicious, which is why I have focused on him more than WC. I still think you are looking to interpret any action I take in a way that fits your pre-conceived idea that WC and I are partners though. For example, if I were to
UNVOTE:
VOTE: WrathChild
...I bet you go back to calling it "distancing" between us.

Now you understand how I feel. Go back and actually read my post and then read what MoI translated that to, then read my response. No matter what I do MoI is convinced I'm scum and I'm going to spend the entire day arguing with him about and get no where because he is a more powerful poster than me. I spent a lot of time reading through the archive to just have something in thread for people (primarily myself) to read through instead of going back through the archives. I don't see how that is "empty posting". I provided a lot of insights and comments and now that the game crashed again for two weeks you all should be thankful that I posted something like that and save you a shit load of time going back through the nightmare archives... again... to get caught up. Now you can scum hunt with out wasting so much archive time. Your welcome. It will be my legacy when I die.

As far as who to lynch besides me, I would have said Fenin, but I dislike lynching people's replacements before they get to at least have a day (game) in the system.

Without going back a re-re-reading everything I would lean towards Peregrine, who has posted more content but has really said as little or less than the duddely-post-littles listed in my point 11.

With a fresh vote count, let's try this out:

Vote: Peregrine

[WrathChild]

EBWOP:

Without going back a re-re-reading everything I would lean towards Peregrine, who has posted more

frequently

but has really said as little or less than the duddely-post-littles listed in my point 11.

[Slandaar]

I have very similar feelings re magna...

Interesting.

[sword_of_omens]

hey all, i'm replacing Foxace...
just saw the thread opened up (didn't get a notification )
bad timing as i will be V/LA for the weekend (i am usually V/LA on all weekends btw) and leaving here in just a few...
so i'll have to do the full catch-up post on Monday.
i did pre-read the archives back when the game went on hold and from what i remember
i wanted a closer look at Slandaar (didn''t like his jump on Malee), Fennin (for crumbing the way he did), and ShadowDancer (for a reason i can't remember right off of the top of my head).
expect me to be active as of Monday..

[BBmolla]

Hi.

Will reread when I can.

[Iecerint]

I have very similar feelings re magna...

Interesting.

I assume you're saying that you have feelings that are similar to WrathChild's?

[PeregrineV]

But let's continue - I see you have zero focus on Wrath. What do you think of his catch-up post and subsequent reaction? Do you still think he is scum?

Yes, I still have a scum read on him. I found him suspicious pre-crash, and his posts today have been mostly empty filler that does not give me any reason to change my opinion. I simply found Fennin to be more suspicious, which is why I have focused on him more than WC. I still think you are looking to interpret any action I take in a way that fits your pre-conceived idea that WC and I are partners though. For example, if I were to
UNVOTE:
VOTE: WrathChild
...I bet you go back to calling it "distancing" between us.

Now you understand how I feel. Go back and actually read my post and then read what MoI translated that to, then read my response. No matter what I do MoI is convinced I'm scum and I'm going to spend the entire day arguing with him about and get no where because he is a more powerful poster than me. I spent a lot of time reading through the archive to just have something in thread for people (primarily myself) to read through instead of going back through the archives. I don't see how that is "empty posting". I provided a lot of insights and comments and now that the game crashed again for two weeks you all should be thankful that I posted something like that and save you a shit load of time going back through the nightmare archives... again... to get caught up. Now you can scum hunt with out wasting so much archive time. Your welcome. It will be my legacy when I die.

As far as who to lynch besides me, I would have said Fenin, but I dislike lynching people's replacements before they get to at least have a day (game) in the system.

Without going back a re-re-reading everything I would lean towards Peregrine, who has posted more content but has really said as little or less than the duddely-post-littles listed in my point 11.

With a fresh vote count, let's try this out:

Vote: Peregrine

Nice try. I haven't posted squat since the crash. I re-read the first 10 pages but then the thread closed, so I don't even remember who I suspected from before.

So, you are misrepping me in a positive light saying I "posted more content", but then vote me?
lol

Vote: WrathChild

[PeregrineV]

But let's continue - I see you have zero focus on Wrath. What do you think of his catch-up post and subsequent reaction? Do you still think he is scum?

Yes, I still have a scum read on him. I found him suspicious pre-crash, and his posts today have been mostly empty filler that does not give me any reason to change my opinion. I simply found Fennin to be more suspicious, which is why I have focused on him more than WC. I still think you are looking to interpret any action I take in a way that fits your pre-conceived idea that WC and I are partners though. For example, if I were to
UNVOTE:
VOTE: WrathChild
...I bet you go back to calling it "distancing" between us.

Now you understand how I feel. Go back and actually read my post and then read what MoI translated that to, then read my response. No matter what I do MoI is convinced I'm scum and I'm going to spend the entire day arguing with him about and get no where because he is a more powerful poster than me. I spent a lot of time reading through the archive to just have something in thread for people (primarily myself) to read through instead of going back through the archives. I don't see how that is "empty posting". I provided a lot of insights and comments and now that the game crashed again for two weeks you all should be thankful that I posted something like that and save you a shit load of time going back through the nightmare archives... again... to get caught up. Now you can scum hunt with out wasting so much archive time. Your welcome. It will be my legacy when I die.

As far as who to lynch besides me, I would have said Fenin, but I dislike lynching people's replacements before they get to at least have a day (game) in the system.

Without going back a re-re-reading everything I would lean towards Peregrine, who has posted more content but has really said as little or less than the duddely-post-littles listed in my point 11.

With a fresh vote count, let's try this out:

Vote: Peregrine

Nice try. I haven't posted squat since the crash. I re-read the first 10 pages but then the thread closed, so I don't even remember who I suspected from before.

So, you are misrepping me in a positive light saying I "posted more content", but then vote me?
lol

Vote: WrathChild

[PeregrineV]

But let's continue - I see you have zero focus on Wrath. What do you think of his catch-up post and subsequent reaction? Do you still think he is scum?

Yes, I still have a scum read on him. I found him suspicious pre-crash, and his posts today have been mostly empty filler that does not give me any reason to change my opinion. I simply found Fennin to be more suspicious, which is why I have focused on him more than WC. I still think you are looking to interpret any action I take in a way that fits your pre-conceived idea that WC and I are partners though. For example, if I were to
UNVOTE:
VOTE: WrathChild
...I bet you go back to calling it "distancing" between us.

Now you understand how I feel. Go back and actually read my post and then read what MoI translated that to, then read my response. No matter what I do MoI is convinced I'm scum and I'm going to spend the entire day arguing with him about and get no where because he is a more powerful poster than me. I spent a lot of time reading through the archive to just have something in thread for people (primarily myself) to read through instead of going back through the archives. I don't see how that is "empty posting". I provided a lot of insights and comments and now that the game crashed again for two weeks you all should be thankful that I posted something like that and save you a shit load of time going back through the nightmare archives... again... to get caught up. Now you can scum hunt with out wasting so much archive time. Your welcome. It will be my legacy when I die.

As far as who to lynch besides me, I would have said Fenin, but I dislike lynching people's replacements before they get to at least have a day (game) in the system.

Without going back a re-re-reading everything I would lean towards Peregrine, who has posted more content but has really said as little or less than the duddely-post-littles listed in my point 11.

With a fresh vote count, let's try this out:

Vote: Peregrine

Nice try. I haven't posted squat since the crash. I re-read the first 10 pages but then the thread closed, so I don't even remember who I suspected from before.

So, you are misrepping me in a positive light saying I "posted more content", but then vote me?
lol

Vote: WrathChild

Went back and looked. WrathChild is 2nd tier right now.

Unvote.
Vote: Fennin

[PeregrineV]

Unvote.
Vote: BBmolla

FoS: Midnight, WrathChild