Open 379: JK9++ (Game Over)

[Phillammon]

Oh, right. Sorry, too much time HTMLing today. UNVOTE: Kondi[/vote]

[kondi2424]

LOLOLOL

[Phillammon]

Oh, fer crying out...

I stop voting for Kondi, m'kay?

[Lord Mhork]

Don't worry, Phillammon. You'll get it!

[Phillammon]

UNVOTE: Kondi

Am I finally doing it right?

[Lord Mhork]

Yay!!! Good job!

[Maruchan]

It's very possible you were doing this so that we would ignore the possibility of you being mafia.

You are right. It is. It is a POSSIBILITY. Just like it is a possibility we are both scum. Or that I am a vig. Or that I am a doc. Or that I am a nilla. Or that anything

Therefore when making a case against me, you shouldn't state POSSIBILITIES as if they are FACT. You made its sound like I had specifically implied and said "because I was scum last roll of the dice, I am not this time"

That is nowhere near what I said. I said I dislike my new non-scum role (Claiming town-oriented, who wouldn't claim this? Just idiots.), and when someone ASKED "Have roles been re-randomized" I confirmed that they had.

I in no way tried to say the two were related. You are doing to me the same as I would be doing if I went like this:

I

am

scum

And then implied that you claimed scum.
Doesn't quite work like that does it?


The rest of your post I'm to sick of trying to get through to you to even care about. You still haven't addressed the first kondi point I made today, competently acted like it didn't exist, and you still haven't stepped back from your Maru-is-scum colored glasses to even read my posts that have good explanations.

Phil, I don't care if your 100% confirmed vig, you need to actually grow a backbone and start playing. Every time there is any ounce of doubt in ANYONE on anyone you are voting, you'll leave the vote for a week then come back.

Start making some point of your own and not just sheeping.

Everyone else, lets actually PLAY this game, I was under the impression there were 9 people left alive, not 3

[Chimera]

Along the same line of thought, wtf is this?

That is honestly neitehr a town nor scum tell.

I hid behind a relatively low-level scumspect of mine. You do that so that if you die, they lynch scum. Its understandable imho as scum or town to use a scumread as a hider target in the hypoclaim.

No not you...kondi. He's hiding behind you. That was the point I was trying to make...

[Lord Mhork]

Again, Maruchan, pretend I am a complete idiot. What is your big first point against kondi?

As for the rest of your post: ha! Your exaggeration is, yet again, another logical fallacy. You keep arguing emotionally rather than logically, and it is not helping your case in the slightest.

Finally, I cannot stand it when people claim to be town-oriented. It's unnecessary, for it's assumed that everyone is, at least, pretending to work toward the town win condition. Whyyyyy did you have the urge to say that you are not in any way scum?

[Phillammon]

Okay. I'm gonna come out with my own point here. I'm not sure as to how much of a tell this is, but Maru has pretty much from the start been affirming "My role is not scum". All while attacking anyone else who makes any kind of defenses. I find this very interesting, in a hypocrisy/methinks the lady doth protest too much sort of way. I'm aware that my constant affirmations of "I'm not an SK" may have the same argument used on them, but those were moderately provoked, whereas a majority of these weren't.

I am decidedly much less happy about my new, non-scum role. >:( )

I see you've jumped the Watch-Maruchan-Like-A-Hawk-Without-Even-Concidering-He-Could-Be-Town-Ever train though.

You also seemed to get your hackles up every time the words meta or WIFOM were mentioned. This point has been made before, but still I thought it would be worth bringing up again, given hypocrisy again- you were the first to say the words.

VOTE: Maru

[Maruchan]

Along the same line of thought, wtf is this?

That is honestly neitehr a town nor scum tell.

I hid behind a relatively low-level scumspect of mine. You do that so that if you die, they lynch scum. Its understandable imho as scum or town to use a scumread as a hider target in the hypoclaim.

No not you...kondi. He's hiding behind you. That was the point I was trying to make...

Yes.
Neither a town nor scum tell.

[Maruchan]

while attacking anyone else who makes any kind of defenses

I attacked Lord Mhork?

I called him Scum?

OHMYGOSH SOMEONE IS IMPERSONATING ME!

[Phillammon]

You're accusing me of putting words into your mouth... while putting them into mine...

[Maruchan]

You said I attacked everyone who makes any kind of defense, which is referring to the DEFENSE of MYSELF in retaliation to Lord Mhork's OFFENSE. Yes I am going to call you out on it.

I was being sarcastic in the above post, but the point is still the same. You're accusing me of something I am not doing.

If I am wrong, feel free to quote&link any evidence to prove that I am wrong, from this game.

[Phillammon]

I was specifically thinking of your attacks on CCV and Kondi, who you continued blasting at while apparently ignoring their defences. I'm currently searching out the quotes, but I have little time, so sorry if I can't deliver right now. It may well be I can't deliver because it didn't happen, though, and if so, apologies, I retract that part of my accusation. The rest still stands, in any case.

[Chimera]

@mod, prod time? Kurtis has yet to post, skel hasn't posted in almost a week, and TML just passed the 72 hour mark.

[Phillammon]

Wow. There really are few of us left. I thought we had more people left over, just they weren't posting... In any case, I can find the quotes in question, apologies. I can find the reactions to them, but they themselves don't use quotes, and I have no time to sift through. So that one's a bit hazy, but the other two accusations stand until you knock them down, if at all.

[Maruchan]

I can find the reactions to them, but they themselves don't use quotes, and I have no time to sift through.

It seems a lot of people "react" to stuff I "say" that they can not find.

You yourself, Lord Mhork, and if I were to backtrace I am sure I can find more.

Coincidence, or should this be saying things? I think, due to the tone of my posts, you all assume I am saying something I am actaully not, then forget that I didn't ACTUALLY say whatever you gusy think I said as the game goes on.

If I don't directly say something, it means I'm not thinking it. I don't use implications, I don't half-say stuff. I come out and say it.

May this be a lesson for everyone, make sure I am saying what you think I am saying before using it as a "point" in cases against me.

@Lord Mhork, I have not forgotten your question, I just have not yet had time to go back and quote my first point yet.

Sorry if typos. IE at school has no spell check. X.X

[Phillammon]

Fair enough. Could I still have your defences to the other two.

[Chimera]

It's very possible you were doing this so that we would ignore the possibility of you being mafia.

You are right. It is. It is a POSSIBILITY. Just like it is a possibility we are both scum. Or that I am a vig. Or that I am a doc. Or that I am a nilla. Or that anything

Therefore when making a case against me, you shouldn't state POSSIBILITIES as if they are FACT.

Hmm? How is "it's very possible [that]..." equivalent to "it's a fact that..."? And how does

I'll tell you why, as scum, you knew Fennin was town. You also knew Maruchan was uber-pushing for a Fennin Lynch, so you figured you could go along wit h the Fennin-known-town-to-you lynch then frame Maruchan the next day and go SEE HOW BAD HE WANTED FENNIN GONE?!?!?!? as a reason to get me lynched. Nice scum-play sir. Nice scum-play. But you tipped your hand by not wanting me lynched yesterday.

not qualify as "stat[ing] POSSIBILITIES as if they are FACT"?

When you re-join this argument with less ATE bullshit

Says the guy who has been using a ton of AtE...as documented by Mhork

Yes.
Neither a town nor scum tell.

...yay for failing basic reading on my part.

[Phillammon]

As I said in 516, and for that matter 177, and Chimera in 519, and Mhork in basically every post against you, and CCV in relation to chainsawing, the problem here is hypocrisy. I'm guilty of it too, I'll admit, but I've tried my best to clear it up, when I can and have noticed. I feel that should be a tell that you're focusing on getting others lynched more than how you do it, or the reasons, which sounds like a scumtell. Hence my vote. Which I am now probably sticking to.

[The Mini-Librarian]

I still don't see any case at all against Maru. I will be vehemently against this wagon.

Basically Mork's case is that Maru attacks his people in an aggressive manner and thus be scum. Bullshit.

Phil's case is "oh god maru says he's not scum so he must be scum"

I know I'm generalizing a bit (OK, a lot) but seriously, the best single case out there is that slip by Kondi. The next best case is to lynch a lurker. And I fucking hate doing that.

Let's get this straight. Hypocrisy is not a scumtell necessarily. You have to look for scum motivation. Maru's play has been damn transparent. I'm not seeing any scum motivation here.

Anyway, @Chimera: Who is scum?

[kondi2424]

It's very possible you were doing this so that we would ignore the possibility of you being mafia.

You are right. It is. It is a POSSIBILITY. Just like it is a possibility we are both scum.

Scumslip.

If you were town, you would know there was no possibility of you being scum.

u c wut i did der

[Maruchan]

It's very possible you were doing this so that we would ignore the possibility of you being mafia.

You are right. It is. It is a POSSIBILITY. Just like it is a possibility we are both scum.

Scumslip.

If you were town, you would know there was no possibility of you being scum.

u c wut i did der

Yes I see that you have quit playing the game and instead reverted to trolling it instead.

of all the content posting going on the last few days, this is the only thing you decide to comment on.

lesstrolling, moreplaying.

[kondi2424]

worse

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