V2V wrote:Yuck. As hiplop already pointed out, what's wrong with L-2? I'm seeing scum intent in either defending his scumbuddy or trying to gain towncred by defending a townie. Town intent not so much. Maybe afraid of a quicklynch, but really a L-2 quicklynch just outs 2(worst case 1) scum. Yup, happy with my vote.
What about Ghostlin, he said the exact same thing. Do you only see scum intent there as well? And no, the worst case scenario of a quicklynch is that it could cost us two, maybe even three straight mislynches. It's all well and good for chastising a player who hasn't 'seen the light' so to speak but don't be outright wrong about it.
V2V wrote:I dont think there is a problem with a different opinion. It's more that you can't explain why. I'm going to ask you again, why is L-2 this early dumb? The only problem a townie would have with it would be a quicklynch, but the scum we catch makes up for it. On the other hand as scum it's far more reasonable to be scared of L-2.
SO ONCE AGAIN, STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE PLAYERS AND ANSWER THE QUESTION. EXPLAIN WHY L-2 IS DUMB.
also a strawman defense from what I know is what you just did. As in attacking MS players meta instead of dealing with what we are actually saying
lololol this just makes me laugh. He 'yells' at him for not answering the question he just asked two posts ago without Newman getting a chance to respond. And yes, I know you asked him once before but he did technically answer you that time so repeating it was simply for more clarification. To go straight into caps lock because he didn't post after you asked him again is just funny. "OMG you haven't had time to post and answer me so I'll yell at you now!!! That will net me answers faster!" lolololol
And no, Newman had been dealing with what you guys were saying but he added the addendum to it which you focused on, instead of his actual stuff. Which... if I remember correctly, IS the definition of Strawman. Now do I disagree entirely with it? No, good play by you guys. But don't accuse someone of doing something when the very act of that accusation causes you to do it as well. It's stupid play, and you're scummy for doing it...
V2V wrote:That's exactly my point. In that post you HAVEN'T GIVEN A REASON AT ALL. Saying that being this close to a lynch this early isn't a reason. Why are we too close to a lynch? How is L-2 even close to a lynch, considering any attempt at a quicklynch should be squelched anyway.
But let's say you're right. It is too early to have somebody at L-2. So no pressure on the guy who I think is suspicious? We have 10 days, so we're going to let them wait 8 before pressuring them? Totes bro.
And lastly don't misrep me. I'm not attacking you because you expressed a different opinion (ie L-2 is a bad thing). I'm attacking you because you haven't sufficiently provided a reasoning for the idea that can be attributed to a townie. Capisce?
First part seems valid, second part... is okay... Third part makes no sense... You just said yourself a 'town reason' someone might say what Newman did (The quicklynch thing) You disagreed with it, but the idea still exists. So what, you just want Newman to repeat something you just attacked? "I'm going to attack your reasons, then demand you give them to me!" Stupid... scummy... Either attack the reasons or demand he give them to you, not both.
V2V wrote:His unfounded alarm on placing somebody at L-2 by page three is scummy because it stinks of either scum trying to defend his scumbuddy or defend a townie to gain towncred.
"Or a player legitimately worried about a quicklynch, but since I disagree with that I won't even allow myself to consider it as a possibility." :\ I mean hell, you don't even show him options he could be doing instead, it's like you don't actually care if he is scum or not, just want him lynched for his beliefs... I think Riceball is right, you are a mafia racists
V2V wrote:To RBT: read 120. Also, so what if you do get targeted for having a different playstyle? That's a different point altogether. Whether or not it is true, Newman failed to address the points raised against him, choosing instead to complain about the discrimination between playstyles (whether true or not).
Lies. He may not have addressed them sufficiently, but he did address them. The complaining was a side tangent, not his entire focus. It's you lot that made it a bigger focus then it needed to be, and while that alone wouldn't be too bad, you let the actual issue slip into obscurity while you piled this bullshit on top of him.
V2V wrote:First: he would fucking say he doesnt like L-2 because he was afraid of a quicklynch.
Second: he wouldn't be afraid of L-2 causing the day early because like Pappum's Rat says, here in MS we build bandwagons as pressure. After spending a year on site he should know that by now. His fear of a quicklynch is unfounded.
lolololol
First: You're right, This is the only actual valid point against him, he hasn't actually said it. BUT, that still doesn't cover why he is scum for it. Not producing a town reason does not equate to being scum. YOU have to come up with that reasoning yourself. And if you use the fucking word "Could be" in your reasoning, you haven't sufficiently explained anything. Give me a real reason he is scum, show me evidence that what he did actually came from an anti town perspective and leave the hypothetical guesses at home mate. "Could be trying to look good" bull fucking shit, show me some evidence. "Could be protecting a buddy" bull fucking shit, show me some partner links to support it.
Second: LOLOLOLOLOL MS meta = he is scum for bringing up something that is OBVIOUSLY FUCKING TRUE SINCE I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL <- shift key, don't use freaking caps lock.
Don't you dare say he is scum because he doesn't follow 'MS policy' that's a shit attack and only justifies the fact some people do feel discriminated against here. Keep the fucking politics out of it mate.
*Disclaimer: The use of the word 'fucking' in this post was only to illustrate frustration and should in no way be taken as harsh insults or whatever. I <3 all of you, especially V2V because he's a fun guy to pick on. =DDDDD -smiley face-
V2V wrote:Thus there is no town intent for being scared about L-2.
Mislynch, followed by a mislynch, followed by a mislynch? Sounds like town intent to me mate...
